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Post by soxcentral on Aug 4, 2013 9:33:25 GMT -5
Don't read into it. They just needed a fresh arm. He may not even pitch and will be down shortly even if he does. Maybe, maybe not. link
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Post by xxdamgoodxx on Aug 4, 2013 21:05:32 GMT -5
Why do the Sox start to warm RDLR and then not let him in the game in a non-save situation when they bring in a righty for the 9th anyway? I haven't watched him pitch and I really want to. They warmed him and didn't pitch him last time he was with the Sox and they seem to be dangling him and then pulling him away, it's maddening. Koji, as much as I love watching him, should not be in the game unless he needs to.
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Post by jmei on Apr 14, 2014 22:51:16 GMT -5
Fans of Rubby should definitely check out the latest podcast, which has a scouting report from his first couple starts this season in Pawtucket. The improved control is definitely a good sign, as is the fact that he looks more comfortable two years removed from Tommy John surgery. He's always had an underrated ability to get ground balls, as his fastball has some serious natural sink to it, and he's at a pretty ridiculous 77.8% GB so far this season. I'd still love to see him return to his strikeout-an-inning pre-surgery ways, but that's probably being a little too greedy. Hope he keeps it up-- he's not prospect eligible for any of the lists, but he's effectively still a prospect, and he has as much upside as any pitcher in the system.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 15, 2014 9:18:19 GMT -5
Five more consecutive starts like the first few and I'll be a believer.
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 15, 2014 10:31:20 GMT -5
Fans of Rubby should definitely check out the latest podcast, which has a scouting report from his first couple starts this season in Pawtucket. The improved control is definitely a good sign, as is the fact that he looks more comfortable two years removed from Tommy John surgery. He's always had an underrated ability to get ground balls, as his fastball has some serious natural sink to it, and he's at a pretty ridiculous 77.8% GB so far this season. I'd still love to see him return to his strikeout-an-inning pre-surgery ways, but that's probably being a little too greedy. Hope he keeps it up-- he's not prospect eligible for any of the lists, but he's effectively still a prospect, and he has as much upside as any pitcher in the system. [/i] Ok, if you say so.....
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Post by terriblehondo on Apr 15, 2014 11:28:35 GMT -5
I really hope he has this figured out and can make it as a starter. Because I am starting to think Webster is never going to throw enough strikes.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 23, 2014 11:51:57 GMT -5
So when can we put Buchholz on the DL and call this guy up? He's an interesting case since he has major league experience and success. Back in 2011 he started 10 games, rather successfully, for the Dodgers. If he hadn't gotten hurt, there's good reason to believe he would have stayed in the majors from that point forward. It's great to see him off to such a phenomenal start and there is a lot of reason to NOT be skeptical about his success. I love Workman, but I hope Ruby is first on the list when a starter is needed.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 23, 2014 11:55:14 GMT -5
Buchholz isn't hurt.
I don't get why people are so ready to bail on every pitcher after 2-3 bad starts.
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Post by soxfanatic on Apr 23, 2014 11:56:15 GMT -5
Buchholz isn't hurt. I don't get why people are so ready to bail on every pitcher after 2-3 bad starts. Because his stuff sucks and the results suck
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 23, 2014 11:57:35 GMT -5
Buchholz isn't hurt. I don't get why people are so ready to bail on every pitcher after 2-3 bad starts. Because his stuff sucks and the results suck And he looked like the best pitcher in the league a year ago. He rested his arm all offseason and is building his strength back up now.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 23, 2014 12:01:52 GMT -5
Buchholz isn't hurt. I don't get why people are so ready to bail on every pitcher after 2-3 bad starts. Relax, that was pretty obviously said in jest and it has as much to do with the fact that Buchholz takes an annual sabbatical as it does with his poor performance. The point is, I'd love to see how Ruby can fair in the majors the way he's throwing the ball. And I'm NOT suggesting they DL Clay to do it. edit: I forgot that you are still in the "seeing red" phase of Nava's demotion.... carry on ranting
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Post by Guidas on Apr 23, 2014 12:15:31 GMT -5
Three more consecutive starts like this and I'm a believer in giving Rubby a shot at an MLB starting job when one comes up.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 23, 2014 12:17:58 GMT -5
Three more consecutive starts like this and I'm a believer in giving Rubby a shot at an MLB starting job when one comes up. Better hope for injuries because Ben is not giving up any depth.
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Post by jmei on Apr 23, 2014 12:59:18 GMT -5
Three more consecutive starts like this and I'm a believer in giving Rubby a shot at an MLB starting job when one comes up. Better hope for injuries because Ben is not giving up any depth. I know this was said partly in jest, but maybe it's time to cool it a little. You're suggesting that the front office should, what, release Buchholz or Doubront midseason to open up a spot for De La Rosa?
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 23, 2014 13:18:20 GMT -5
Better hope for injuries because Ben is not giving up any depth. I know this was said partly in jest, but maybe it's time to cool it a little. You're suggesting that the front office should, what, release Buchholz or Doubront midseason to open up a spot for De La Rosa? No. But he better not sign mediocre starters just to keep everyone with options in AAA next year whether they deserve it or not. It's borderline obsessive.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 23, 2014 13:47:20 GMT -5
I love how people are drawing life long conclusions based off of 2 offseasons. they also just won the WS. Now all of a sudden they are going to block every prospect and never extend a guy long-term unless they player takes a WAY below market deal. Yet, during this same time period the following has happened:
- Doubront has been given a rotation spot and stuck with through struggles - Middlebrooks has been given EVERY opportunity to play 3b full time - Xander Bogaerts was handed the short stop job - Bradley is being given the centerfield job in place of keeping Nava.
What free agent have they lost on a deal that you would have given? and what young guy hasn't been given a chance that you want to in place of a crappy veteran that you think they signed to block that person?
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Post by jmei on Jun 16, 2014 17:46:57 GMT -5
Something to watch, re: Rubby-- how well he trusts and commands his fastball, especially when he's behind in the count ( per BMac at the ProJo):
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 16, 2014 18:16:15 GMT -5
Translated through my Cynicism-O-Matic3000: "We totally needed to invent something for De La Rosa to work on to justify sending him back to the minors."
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Post by onbase on Jun 17, 2014 7:27:30 GMT -5
Translated through my Cynicism-O-Matic3000: "We totally needed to invent something for De La Rosa to work on to justify sending him back to the minors." And then he flipped the confidence switch on and let the batters get themselves out. Now what?
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 17, 2014 7:35:28 GMT -5
Translated through my Cynicism-O-Matic3000: "We totally needed to invent something for De La Rosa to work on to justify sending him back to the minors." And then he flipped the confidence switch on and let the batters get themselves out. Now what? Now we shoot Clay with a tranquilizer dart while one of his kids is draped around his neck. (Alternatively, we could trade Workman, DFA Mujica and move Doubie to the pen.)
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 17, 2014 7:47:44 GMT -5
Game score is sort of silly, so keep in mind that I'm only breaking this out because it fits my preconceived idea. But De La Rosa has two starts with a game score of 75+ in his four starts this season. Doubront has one such start in his entire career. There is roughly a 0.2% chance that Doubront is a better starting pitcher than De La Rosa.
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Post by zil on Jun 17, 2014 8:14:33 GMT -5
Game score is sort of silly, so keep in mind that I'm only breaking this out because it fits my preconceived idea. But De La Rosa has two starts with a game score of 75+ in his four starts this season. Doubront has one such start in his entire career. There is roughly a 0.2% chance that Doubront is a better starting pitcher than De La Rosa. That 0.2% seems high to me.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 17, 2014 8:18:21 GMT -5
SIERA is not too silly, and RDLR has 3.08 so far this season while Jon Lester has 3.09, so there is a non-zero chance that RDLR is as good as Lester.
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Post by okin15 on Jun 17, 2014 10:35:41 GMT -5
RDLR has gotten good results, and I want him to stay in the rotation. That said, I'm not convinced he's as good as he's been. He has walked guys, thrown fewer strikes than you'd like, and generally pitched at the upper end of his abilities. Still, I think even his downside at this point is Doubront or 2014 Peavy. They should be working hard to trade the latter, and be moving Doubie to the 'pen. Whether they're ahead or behind in the standings, I want Peavy gone at the deadline so we can get one of Webster, RDLR or Workman cemented into the rotation.
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Post by jmei on Jun 17, 2014 10:36:38 GMT -5
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