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9/15-9/18 Red Sox vs. Yankees Series Thread
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 15, 2016 22:23:41 GMT -5
Gotta give it to El Niño.
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Post by radiohix on Sept 15, 2016 22:25:50 GMT -5
If that Williams' liner didn't caught Kelly's glove it would've been a different ballgame. Qlso,the MFY didn't capitalize on a bunch of runners on 3rd with less than 2 outs. Baseball is just a crazy game!
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 15, 2016 22:30:15 GMT -5
If that Williams' liner didn't caught Kelly's glove it would've been a different ballgame. Qlso,the MFY didn't capitalize on a bunch of runners on 3rd with less than 2 outs. Baseball is just a crazy game! Just curious, do you regret all your Hanley bashing this season yet?
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Post by nomar on Sept 15, 2016 22:50:54 GMT -5
I've been telling my Yankee fan friends this week that the Yankees cared much more about this series than the Sox, just to make them feel irrelevant in the playoff race. But damn, did I care in that last inning tonight.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 15, 2016 22:51:35 GMT -5
Holy nuts I was following this game at my girlfriend's and then the MFY loaded the bases against Cy Kelly in the 9th leading by 3 and I just thought that's that. Got home and see this win and I JUST WANT TO SHOUT AND USE LOTS OF CAPS LOCK.
Major shoutout to my man John Farrell. You know I'm a proeminent member of the John Farrell Intangibles Appreciation Fan Club™ and tonight was a damn good job using the bullpen and still saving up your best relievers for the rest of the series on a day where Eduardo again had nothing. That's just awesome and stealing a game they had absolutely no business winning is huge. I'm very proud to say I was always on the bandwagon :')
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Post by Nick Rabasco2 on Sept 15, 2016 22:55:39 GMT -5
This game instantly reminded me of the comeback against Seattle in 2013. Down 7-2 in the ninth, Sox got shutdown by a really good pitcher (Felix), cruising to a loss, huge comeback.
Tonight....down 5-2 in the ninth, Sox got shutdown by a really good pitcher, cruising to a loss, huge comeback.
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Post by bosox81 on Sept 15, 2016 23:01:41 GMT -5
So the two times the Red Sox have beat Tanaka this season, the Red Sox sent Henry Owens and ERod to the mound. Tanaka pitched a gem and Betances lost both games. Baseball is awesome.
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 15, 2016 23:19:21 GMT -5
Holy nuts I was following this game at my girlfriend's and then the MFY loaded the bases against Cy Kelly in the 9th leading by 3 and I just thought that's that. Got home and see this win and I JUST WANT TO SHOUT AND USE LOTS OF CAPS LOCK. Major shoutout to my man John Farrell. You know I'm a proeminent member of the John Farrell Intangibles Appreciation Fan Club™ and tonight was a damn good job using the bullpen and still saving up your best relievers for the rest of the series on a day where Eduardo again had nothing. That's just awesome and stealing a game they had absolutely no business winning is huge. I'm very proud to say I was always on the bandwagon :') Whatever. The only thing Farrell proved was that he still can't get a win in a 1 run game.
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Post by dd on Sept 16, 2016 0:26:57 GMT -5
Holy nuts I was following this game at my girlfriend's and then the MFY loaded the bases against Cy Kelly in the 9th leading by 3 and I just thought that's that. Got home and see this win and I JUST WANT TO SHOUT AND USE LOTS OF CAPS LOCK. Major shoutout to my man John Farrell. You know I'm a proeminent member of the John Farrell Intangibles Appreciation Fan Club™ and tonight was a damn good job using the bullpen and still saving up your best relievers for the rest of the series on a day where Eduardo again had nothing. That's just awesome and stealing a game they had absolutely no business winning is huge. I'm very proud to say I was always on the bandwagon :') Whatever. The only thing Farrell proved was that he still can't get a win in a 1 run game.I damned near didn't notice the italics!!
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Post by m1keyboots on Sept 16, 2016 1:08:23 GMT -5
Now we all pretend we love Hanley and always have! David Ortiz simply is a great an incredibly smart hitter, and thank the baseball gods for letting him treat us for his last year..286/380/551 hitter when it's all said and done, how far we've come from 2009 when he couldn't buy a hit and looked completely done at 350-ish career homeruns.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 16, 2016 2:40:12 GMT -5
I believe I've mentioned in the past that I have friends who've been coming over every Thursday night for the last 12 years for cheap eats, followed by watching TV and movies. Tonight we only scratched the surface in our discussion of the relative awesomeness of Season 1, episodes 5 and 6 of Farscape before I chased them out. "I got a Red Sox / Yankees game to watch [on DVR]." They understood.
As I approached my 2:00 AM lights-out time, we were still down 5-2. I might have given up and just checked online to see how they ended up losing. But my roommate had come home just a bit before, and when he had seen the score, he had done a slight double take and then said "oh, you're only in the 5th inning." So I was pretty sure that the game had gotten at least closer.
After it was over, I had another happy thought: how much fun it would be to read all the negativity in the game thread!
Crazy facts: the Sox are just 7-64 (.086) at coming back from a Win Probabilty of less than .150. That's awful. But they are now 4-64 (.059) at coming back from less than .040 and 3-64 (.045) at coming back from less than .025.
April 8: After Joe Kelly gives up 6 in the 4th inning to put the Sox in a 7-2 hole and the Sox fall to .037 in the bottom of the 5th, they rally on Brock Holt's 6th-inning GS and singles by Pedey, Xander, Papi, and Hanley in the 7th. Tazawa, Uehara, and Kimbrel allow just a walk between them.
June 24: Price gives up 6 R to the Rangers in 2.1 IP (.031). Hanley's 2-run bomb gets them back to .131, but they're still down 7-2 in the top of the 6th (.039) before JBJ hits a 2-run bomb to them back to .118. But they're still down 7-4 in the 9th with 2 outs and a man on first (.013). Leon doubles, Mookie greets Matt Bush with a game-tying homer, Pedey walks, goes to 3rd on Xander's single, and scores the go-ahead run on a WP. Koji strikes out Fielder, Andrus, and Odor swinging.
July 31: Sox trail the Angels 3-0 after they go out meekly in the top of the 8th (.022). But Buchholz piitches his third hitless inning in relief, and in the 9th, JBJ and Hill single off of Huston Street (.135). Hanigan and Holt fan swinging (.030). Betts singles in a run, Pedey hits a 3-run bomb, and Xander adds an insurance run with one of his own. Ziegler gets the save.
Tonight's low point was in the top of the 9th when Kelly put the first two guys on: .016. So it was fractionally less unlikely than the comeback against the Rangers. But of course, this was the first of the four games that was at home.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 16, 2016 5:21:10 GMT -5
I woke this mornin and the sun was shinin no longer could see the bad moon rising
I lost the love it was all i could take In the bottom of the ninth the boys did rake.
So a lesson is learned slightly painful indeed let's do it again tonight and make the Yankmes bleed.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 16, 2016 5:46:21 GMT -5
So this Robby Scott guy is pretty good. Any chance he makes the playoff roster?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 16, 2016 5:55:11 GMT -5
I woke this mornin and the sun was shinin no longer could see the bad moon rising I lost the love it was all i could take In the bottom of the ninth the boys did rake. So a lesson is learned slightly painful indeed let's do it again tonight and make the Yankmes bleed. Hahaha this is a guy who hates the Yankees to the core. A good season to you is a season where the Yankees miss the playoffs. If the Sox don't win the world series this year, at least knock out the satisfaction of Yankee fans even smelling October. I'm with you sir. Well done on the poem.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Sept 16, 2016 6:15:33 GMT -5
That's what happens when your organization gives up on the season, trades away 2/3 of the lights-out bullpen back end, and then the team catches fire and drags itself back in to the playoff race so you have to do everything you can to win games.
And apropos of nothing, but in watching the game summary, I was shocked the way that Sanchez flinched and turned his head completely away from the pitch on the ball Hanley hit. Maybe he was afraid of a foul tip, but if Hanley had missed that ball it was going to hit Sanchez directly in the head or neck, since he wasn't even looking at it.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 16, 2016 6:55:51 GMT -5
So this Robby Scott guy is pretty good. Any chance he makes the playoff roster? I think a lot of it depends on Steven Wright. If Wright's back, then Rodriguez is in the bullpen for the playoffs almost certainly, along with Buchholz. Also, Kelly has pushed his way past Tazawa and Barnes, right? Also, too, teams also tend to carry one additional bench player in the playoffs. So my guess is the seven-man bullpen is: Kimbrel, Uehara, Ziegler, Ross, Rodriguez, Kelly, Buchholz. Not sure they have a space for Tazawa, Barnes, and Abad (who has been really very tough on lefties), much less Scott. I do hope Scott impresses enough to hold onto his 40-man spot though and get a long look next year. Or, if he does get DFA'd or non-tendered, finds himself a major league contract (preferably outside the division where I can comfortably root for him). Very cool story.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Sept 16, 2016 7:21:55 GMT -5
Scott reminds me a little of Javier Lopez, formerly of the Red Sox and now with the Giants. Enjoyed watching him K ing Gardner who thinks he is hot stuff.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Sept 16, 2016 7:28:58 GMT -5
So this Robby Scott guy is pretty good. Any chance he makes the playoff roster? I think a lot of it depends on Steven Wright. If Wright's back, then Rodriguez is in the bullpen for the playoffs almost certainly, along with Buchholz. Also, Kelly has pushed his way past Tazawa and Barnes, right? Also, too, teams also tend to carry one additional bench player in the playoffs. So my guess is the seven-man bullpen is: Kimbrel, Uehara, Ziegler, Ross, Rodriguez, Kelly, Buchholz. Not sure they have a space for Tazawa, Barnes, and Abad (who has been really very tough on lefties), much less Scott. I do hope Scott impresses enough to hold onto his 40-man spot though and get a long look next year. Or, if he does get DFA'd or non-tendered, finds himself a major league contract (preferably outside the division where I can comfortably root for him). Very cool story. Yeah, hard not to root for Robby Scott ... and he's an interesting pitcher. At a minimum, he seems like he's going to be death on lefties, but he pitches from so many different angles, he must be tough to pick up. The key is whether or not guys would figure him out quickly or not. But if Tazawa pitches more games like last night, I'm not sure he's behind Buchholz as a reliever. Really, the entire bullpen has been incredible for weeks now. Besides the pretty cheap run Hembree gave up, it feels like they haven't given up a run in days, with some early exits by starters in some games. I'm not sure what's gotten into Farrell. I push back on the endless bashing of Farrell's in-game management not because it's wrong, just because it's boring; he really hasn't been any good at managing a bullpen, never has (including 2013 playoffs). But it's like some kind of lightbulb when off in his head about a month ago. It's not just that he has better pitchers to work with now that Koji's back and Kelly has turned into a power reliever ... there's a whole new competence I don't think I've ever seen from him. Maybe it's temporary or the managerial equivalent of Pedro Ciriaco having a good few weeks in 2012. But leaving Robby Scott in for three innings was a pretty bold choice that I never would've expected to work out.
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Post by tjb21 on Sept 16, 2016 7:52:50 GMT -5
I gave the old man double fist pump when the HR happened.
What a great win.
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Post by brendan98 on Sept 16, 2016 8:25:40 GMT -5
Agreed, very nice story on Robby Scott. His splits vs lefties have been really good, wonder if he can fill a Javier Lopez type role? His outing was instrumental in not only winning that game, but also saving the bullpen for the rest of the series.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 16, 2016 8:26:45 GMT -5
Wow, that was the most clutchiest incredible exhilarating ballsiest win of 2016! I really can't believe they won that game. That's the kind of game I think you can build momentum off of, and yeah I know momentum is only as good as the next day's starting pitcher (and with Buchholz that's a frightening thought), but still this can be a win they can build off of. The Orioles had runners on 1st and 3rd down a run in the 9th with only one out while the Sox were dead in the water against NY. The O's live and die by the home run (or the strike out) and yesterday they blinked when they had their chance as Trumbo and Davis went down. And then the Sox opened up a little daylight with that magnificent victory. They had no business winning that game. I was certainly glad that Chapman and Miller weren't around, although I thought Tommy Layne, if given a chance, was going to close them out. My wife was on the computer last night so I didn't have a chance to post, but all she could hear was a bunch of "holy [expletives]" coming out of my mouth when Hanley launched that ball. I initially thought he got just underneath it, but he didn't - he got it flush. These Yankees aren't THE Yankees that scare the hell out of you, but still if there's a team to have a wakeup call against, a team to find a way to hand an agonizing loss to, there's no better team to do that to than the Yankees. I know the younger fans hate the O's (I can't stand Buck Showalter), Jays, and Rays as much as the Yankees, but to me it's not even close - the MFYs will always be number 1 in that category. It made yesterday so sweet. Maybe there should be concern about a sweep - from the Yankees point of view. It's possible yesterday's game can be a launching pad into a hot streak for the remainder of the season and deep into October. I hope that's the case.
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Post by nomar on Sept 16, 2016 8:49:41 GMT -5
You can call that liner back to Kelly luck, but he's been dominant since his return to the MLB on 9/2. 7 IP, 11 Ks (14.14 K/9), 3 BB (3.86 BB/9), 1.29 FIP, 2.25 xFIP. Hopefully he keeps it up, because it's kind of reminiscent of Andrew Miller.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 16, 2016 8:52:17 GMT -5
Can't remember the last walkoff come from behind win for us. Feels so good. Congrats for your first positive post on the board.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 16, 2016 8:53:09 GMT -5
Wow what a good feeling win. Looked like Gary Sanchez was crossed up looking for a breaking ball and it was a fastball. If Hanley missed that, Sanchez would have been hit right in the head. I've never seen a catcher do that.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Sept 16, 2016 8:55:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I actually thought that Kelly inning was a really good sign. He didn't really have it, but his stuff is so dominant now that he still got a couple of Ks and got out of the inning without giving up a run. If he keeps it up, he changes the complexion of the playoff bullpen pretty substantially.
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