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Pablo Sandoval, ”well ahead of schedule,“ could be used OCT
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 24, 2016 15:16:29 GMT -5
“@brianmacp: John Farrell made a point of saying that Pablo Sandoval, who’s ”well ahead of schedule,“ could be an option in October of a need arises.”
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 24, 2016 15:22:37 GMT -5
*If the stadium is close to a McDonald's.
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Post by jchang on Sept 24, 2016 15:22:55 GMT -5
Pinch runner
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 24, 2016 15:23:45 GMT -5
Mr. October his-self. The other months, not so much, at least not so far. They haven't gotten much out of the position this year, so they're trolling all options I'd guess.
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Post by ryantoworkman on Sept 24, 2016 15:31:52 GMT -5
If Shaw's production spiked with the spectre of Moncada arriving, perhaps we have the 2nd coming of Babe Ruth, with the spectre of Panda's arrival.
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Post by mredsox89 on Sept 24, 2016 16:09:46 GMT -5
Here's the thing. I don't necessarily want Sandoval on this team given how they're playing. BUT, they've gotten almost nothing from their 3B in the past 6 weeks and apparently don't feel like giving Moncada any more chances this year whatsoever.
So any return doesn't have to produce much to put up better #'s than current 3B on the team. But they you run into whether or not you believe that a return of Sandoval to the team on a full time basis has any impact on the rest of the team, which is something that is really anyone's guess.
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Post by jmei on Sept 24, 2016 16:38:46 GMT -5
There's no way he'll have seen enough live pitching to be better than their incumbent options. You can't go from not having played in six months to ready to be on a playoff roster in a couple weeks of instructs.
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Post by thursty on Sept 24, 2016 17:09:02 GMT -5
Ha Ha. Brian MacP trolling
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Post by philarhody on Sept 24, 2016 17:15:42 GMT -5
He'd be better than Moncada.
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Post by soxfan06 on Sept 24, 2016 17:29:57 GMT -5
It's absolutely crazy how bad Shaw has been. I hated Sandoval. I hated how he got a big contract and tried to eat himself out of the league. I hated how he didn't care about how he played. I never wanted to see him play a game in a Red Sox uniform again.
But, Shaw's ineptness, save for 1 month this year, absolutely has me wondering if a slimmed down, humbled Sandoval could be salvage because Travis Shaw certainly isn't the answer.
I wouldn't hate it if it was neither of them either though.
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Post by ryantoworkman on Sept 24, 2016 17:34:18 GMT -5
There's no way he'll have seen enough live pitching to be better than their incumbent options. You can't go from not having played in six months to ready to be on a playoff roster in a couple weeks of instructs. I could be out on LF, but I think this is Farrell trying to motivate his 3B options
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Post by bsout2 on Sept 24, 2016 17:42:49 GMT -5
There's no way he'll have seen enough live pitching to be better than their incumbent options. You can't go from not having played in six months to ready to be on a playoff roster in a couple weeks of instructs. I could be out on LF, but I think this is Farrell trying to motivate his 3B options I disagree. I think Sandoval is a real option. If he is not available for the first playoff series than maybe he comes back for the ALDS if the Red Sox make it. Shaw has been brutal at the plate. Shaw's inability to do the basics, such as move runners over and put the ball in the air when needed, is a real problem. Sandoval's bat control would be a huge addition to the 8 spot in the lineup.
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Post by gator39 on Sept 24, 2016 18:42:53 GMT -5
Even if Sandoval was ready to contribute offensively does anybody trust him enough defensively at 3rd base to want to see him play there over our current options?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 24, 2016 19:01:55 GMT -5
It pains me to imagine him on this team right now. It would perturb the chemistry that has been built...and I can't imagine how he could positively contribute taking so much time off. We've done what we've done with what we have....let's let it play out this way.
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Post by patford on Sept 24, 2016 21:57:26 GMT -5
If he's in shape I'd bring him up next week and start him. I believe he's the type of guy who could roll out of bed and hit a double. People can and will make jokes. If he comes in and plays well he will be a fan favorite in a week. In fact if he had one really good game there would be a lot of people getting excited. If he had four strong games in a row people would freak if Farrell sat him a game and started Shaw.
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Post by patford on Sept 24, 2016 22:53:15 GMT -5
This pretty much ices it. Pablo Sandoval your post season starting 3B for the Sox.
Jim Bowden ESPN Senior Writer
To be clear, there is no chance that Pablo Sandoval is on the Red Sox post-season's rosters despite reports of the contrary. Just not enough time to get competitive at bats to contribute at a level better than the players on their present roster.
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Post by patford on Sept 24, 2016 22:57:30 GMT -5
Theo's goodnight prayer: "...And please Lord; do not let Pablo Sandoval be starting at 3B if we meet the Sox in the World Series."
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 25, 2016 2:13:55 GMT -5
Pablo is an experienced major league hitter. If he's to be on the post season roster, the Sox will play him several games at 3B before the season ends to get a first hand look. We've pretty much nailed the season and it's not like Shaw/Hill are on fire there anyways.
Note too that the last time the Sox were in Florida, Pablo and Smith visited them. They were both working out at Fort Meyers. This isn't his first week back.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Sept 25, 2016 9:54:06 GMT -5
I don't see Sandoval as much of an option for 2016. He was crushed by the pressure of a new contract in Boston last year and he pretty much ate his way out of the lineup this past offseason. There is no job opening at DH and this team needs a viable defender at 3td base not someone like Pablo whose range is still probably limited from his right toe to his left toe as long as the ball is above his knees.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 25, 2016 10:47:27 GMT -5
In 2011 he went on the DL on April 30 with a 904 OPS. He started a rehab on June 3, played 6 games over 10 days with an 804 OPS, then had a 456 OPS in his first 11 games back.
In 2012 he went on the DL on May 3 with a 912 OPS. He started a rehab on June 2, played 6 games over 7 days with a 1059 OPS, then had a 618 OPS in his first 9 games back.
In 2013 he went on the DL on June 9 with a 753 OPS. He started a rehab on June 21 and went 4/6, 2 HR in high-A, so they brought him right back to MLB, where he had a 282 OPS in his first 12 games.
Assuming the Sox know this, they're just trying to light a fire under Shaw.
OMG, Jim Bowden was correct!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 25, 2016 11:40:34 GMT -5
I buy the Farrell using this as motivation theory.
There's no way he goes from not seeing MLB-caliber pitching since March to starting in the playoffs.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Sept 25, 2016 12:28:13 GMT -5
There's no way he'll have seen enough live pitching to be better than their incumbent options. You can't go from not having played in six months to ready to be on a playoff roster in a couple weeks of instructs. Not that I disagree with this but then what was Farrell doing throwing it out there?
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Post by jmei on Sept 25, 2016 12:36:34 GMT -5
There's no way he'll have seen enough live pitching to be better than their incumbent options. You can't go from not having played in six months to ready to be on a playoff roster in a couple weeks of instructs. Not that I disagree with this but then what was Farrell doing throwing it out there? Either to motivate Travis Shaw or as a reward for Sandoval for continuing to work hard when he could have just packed it in and waited for 2017.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 25, 2016 20:40:35 GMT -5
Not that I disagree with this but then what was Farrell doing throwing it out there? Either to motivate Travis Shaw or as a reward for Sandoval for continuing to work hard when he could have just packed it in and waited for 2017. Also, not lying, because they seem to be adamant about not using Moncada, and if there are 2 injuries to position players, Sandoval is probably a better bench option than Deven Marrero or a 3rd catcher. Maybe.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 26, 2016 4:57:05 GMT -5
If you asked me in May, I would of thought anyone is crazy for even bringing up the name Sandoval in 2016.
After watching 3B continue to be a black hole since the all-star break, I'd say play Sandoval in the last couple of games in the year and see what it looks like.
What do the Sox really have to lose here?
I mean Sandoval does know how to swing a bat at least, so getting his bat up to speed *shouldn't* be that much of a problem. If it is, well you have Shaw there anyways.
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