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9/27-9/29 Red Sox @ Yankees Series Thread
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 30, 2016 8:18:31 GMT -5
I am very bothered by the sweep and the lack of intensity on the field. Keeping your foot on the gas pedal is easier than taking it off and then putting it back on again. Larry?
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 30, 2016 8:43:53 GMT -5
Reset for Friday (to be moved to TOR series thread, when formed): BOS has clinched the AL East and, with it, a top three seed. TEX has tiebreakers over BOS/CLE, BOS has tiebreaker over CLE. TEX's magic number to clinch #1 seed is 1. BOS's magic number to clinch #2 seed is 3. TOR(@ BOS) and BAL(@ MFY) are tied for the wild card spots, with DET(@ ATL) 1.5 games back and SEA(vs. OAK) 2 games back. (BTW, TOR has tiebreakers over BAL/DET, SEA has tiebreakers over TOR/BAL, BAL has tiebreaker over DET, DET has tiebreaker over SEA)FRI: CLE@KC (Merritt), TB@TEX (Darvish), TOR@BOS (Porcello) SAT: CLE@KC (Bauer), TB@TEX (Lewis), TOR@BOS (Rodriguez) SUN: CLE@KC (Tomlin), TB@TEX (Perez), TOR@BOS (Price) MON: CLE@DET (TBD, only if affects playoff spot or seeding)WC game is Tuesday (currently BAL@TOR), and ALDS begins Thursday, with Porcello and Price pitching games 1 and 2 vs. CLE, most likely. Do we know for sure the Monday game will be played if it only affects seeding and not Detroit's playoff spot? Eric's post seems to suggest only if it affects playoff spots. Thanks!
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Post by nomar on Sept 30, 2016 9:38:13 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 30, 2016 9:41:58 GMT -5
Reset for Friday (to be moved to TOR series thread, when formed): BOS has clinched the AL East and, with it, a top three seed. TEX has tiebreakers over BOS/CLE, BOS has tiebreaker over CLE. TEX's magic number to clinch #1 seed is 1. BOS's magic number to clinch #2 seed is 3. TOR(@ BOS) and BAL(@ MFY) are tied for the wild card spots, with DET(@ ATL) 1.5 games back and SEA(vs. OAK) 2 games back. (BTW, TOR has tiebreakers over BAL/DET, SEA has tiebreakers over TOR/BAL, BAL has tiebreaker over DET, DET has tiebreaker over SEA)FRI: CLE@KC (Merritt), TB@TEX (Darvish), TOR@BOS (Porcello) SAT: CLE@KC (Bauer), TB@TEX (Lewis), TOR@BOS (Rodriguez) SUN: CLE@KC (Tomlin), TB@TEX (Perez), TOR@BOS (Price) MON: CLE@DET (TBD, only if affects playoff spot or seeding)WC game is Tuesday (currently BAL@TOR), and ALDS begins Thursday, with Porcello and Price pitching games 1 and 2 vs. CLE, most likely. Do we know for sure the Monday game will be played if it only affects seeding and not Detroit's playoff spot? Eric's post seems to suggest only if it affects playoff spots. Thanks! If I were Tito, I'd forfeit the game and take the rest if that's even allowed anymore.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 30, 2016 9:50:07 GMT -5
They have expanded rosters, right? Call up the full 40, send the regulars to Boston (or Cleveland if they end up getting home field, or Texas, or whatever), and just play minor leaguers.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Sept 30, 2016 10:26:52 GMT -5
Unlike the NFL, home field advantage is only home field advantage if the series goes the distance. In a 5 game series, that may be important. In a 7 game, for the team that does not have HFA, all they have to do is split the 1st 2 games, then they have HFA. IMO, the "home" team has more pressure on them to sweep the 1st 2 games.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 30, 2016 10:42:44 GMT -5
Unlike the NFL, home field advantage is only home field advantage if the series goes the distance. In a 5 game series, that may be important. In a 7 game, for the team that does not have HFA, all they have to do is split the 1st 2 games, then they have HFA. IMO, the "home" team has more pressure on them to sweep the 1st 2 games. True but I've bought tickets for the first 2 home games so I have a personal stake, as do a few other posters. Would much rather see porcello and price, and would prefer to go thursday and friday. My family also only has tickets to the the second game, and they wont be able to go if we're the 3 seed and sweep.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 30, 2016 11:18:42 GMT -5
The odds are high but I just have trouble seeing it... This team looks content with the 3 seed. Do you see Price, ERod or Porcello going deep into any of these games? I also think they're going for rest vs home field. Settling for the 3 seed also invites the Jays into a cushy run at the W/C spot, and they're clearly the second best team in the league. You have a chance to disinvite them from the party, and/or make them play a bunch of games before the W/C game. Reset for Friday (to be moved to TOR series thread, when formed): BOS has clinched the AL East and, with it, a top three seed. TEX has tiebreakers over BOS/CLE, BOS has tiebreaker over CLE. TEX's magic number to clinch #1 seed is 1. BOS's magic number to clinch #2 seed is 3. TOR(@ BOS) and BAL(@ MFY) are tied for the wild card spots, with DET(@ ATL) 1.5 games back and SEA(vs. OAK) 2 games back. (BTW, TOR has tiebreakers over BAL/DET, SEA has tiebreakers over TOR/BAL, BAL has tiebreaker over DET, DET has tiebreaker over SEA)FRI: CLE@KC (Merritt), TB@TEX (Darvish), TOR@BOS (Porcello) SAT: CLE@KC (Bauer), TB@TEX (Lewis), TOR@BOS (Rodriguez) SUN: CLE@KC (Tomlin), TB@TEX (Perez), TOR@BOS (Price) MON: CLE@DET (TBD, only if affects playoff spot or seeding)WC game is Tuesday (currently BAL@TOR), and ALDS begins Thursday, with Porcello and Price pitching games 1 and 2 vs. CLE, most likely. Do we know for sure the Monday game will be played if it only affects seeding and not Detroit's playoff spot? Eric's post seems to suggest only if it affects playoff spots. Thanks! Before the game got rained out, MLB.com said that such games are played if they affect seeding. But last night, I know I read an article that specifically stated that the game would not be played on Monday if it only affected seeding. And in fact I edited my analysis of the situation based on that! MLB.com clarifies that the game will be played if it affects seeding only, which was clarified in a ruling this year. Whoever asserted otherwise that I read last night didn't get that memo.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 30, 2016 11:37:13 GMT -5
They have expanded rosters, right? Call up the full 40, send the regulars to Boston (or Cleveland if they end up getting home field, or Texas, or whatever), and just play minor leaguers. MLB wouldn't let them punt the game if it mattered to the Tigers. And if it doesn't, there isn't a scenario where they would be getting home field if they punted the game and lost it; if that were the case, they would have already clinched it and the game doesn't have to be played. And the only way we get the top seed is if the Rangers get swept at home by the Rays while we sweep the Jays. So their first post-season game if either at home or in Boston. They'll know by about 7 PM on Sunday. Let's say the Monday game is only meaningful to home field, and there are no tie-breakers to muck up the schedule. I don't think they'd fly to Boston Sunday night for a game on Wednesday. They'd fly Tuesday, I imagine. So there's no reason not to fly to Detroit for a game Monday and try to win it. If they can win it, they can fly home and wait for us, and they're in significantly better shape in a 5-game series.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 30, 2016 11:37:24 GMT -5
Unlike the NFL, home field advantage is only home field advantage if the series goes the distance. In a 5 game series, that may be important. In a 7 game, for the team that does not have HFA, all they have to do is split the 1st 2 games, then they have HFA. IMO, the "home" team has more pressure on them to sweep the 1st 2 games. True but I've bought tickets for the first 2 home games so I have a personal stake, as do a few other posters. Would much rather see porcello and price, and would prefer to go thursday and friday. My family also only has tickets to the the second game, and they wont be able to go if we're the 3 seed and sweep. I haven't bought tickets, so I don't care. Maybe game 3 is the best game of the series.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Sept 30, 2016 11:38:02 GMT -5
The odds are high but I just have trouble seeing it... This team looks content with the 3 seed. Do you see Price, ERod or Porcello going deep into any of these games? I also think they're going for rest vs home field. Settling for the 3 seed also invites the Jays into a cushy run at the W/C spot, and they're clearly the second best team in the league. You have a chance to disinvite them from the party, and/or make them play a bunch of games before the W/C game.
Do we know for sure the Monday game will be played if it only affects seeding and not Detroit's playoff spot? Eric's post seems to suggest only if it affects playoff spots. Thanks! Before the game got rained out, MLB.com said that such games are played if they effect seeding. But last night, I know I read an article that specifically stated that the game would not be played on Monday if it only affected seeding. And in fact I edited my analysis of the situation based on that! MLB.com clarifies that the game will be played if it affects seeding only, which was clarified in a ruling this year. Whoever asserted otherwise that I read last night didn't get that memo. I'm not sure I'd want to face the Tigers or Toronto. In a short series....their top 2 starters (Verlander/Fulmer) IMO, are better than Toronto's top 2. They could have you down 0-2 games quick. Toronto has Sanchez, then mediocrity.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 30, 2016 11:49:14 GMT -5
Settling for the 3 seed also invites the Jays into a cushy run at the W/C spot, and they're clearly the second best team in the league. You have a chance to disinvite them from the party, and/or make them play a bunch of games before the W/C game.
Before the game got rained out, MLB.com said that such games are played if they effect seeding. But last night, I know I read an article that specifically stated that the game would not be played on Monday if it only affected seeding. And in fact I edited my analysis of the situation based on that! MLB.com clarifies that the game will be played if it affects seeding only, which was clarified in a ruling this year. Whoever asserted otherwise that I read last night didn't get that memo. I'm not sure I'd want to face the Tigers or Toronto. In a short series....their top 2 starters (Verlander/Fulmer) IMO, are better than Toronto's top 2. They could have you down 0-2 games quick. Toronto has Sanchez, then mediocrity.
There's no chance of facing the Tigers (or Jays) in a 5-game series. And you're underestimating Happ and the inconsistent Estrada. In fact, the Blue Jays' rotation has been quite a bit better on the season than the Tigers'. It is true that the Tigers would be tougher in the post-season than the regular season because Verlander and Fulmer will be pitching 57% of the games instead of 40%. They've gotten nothing from their 4 and 5 starters (like us before DDo traded for Pomeranz and the space aliens returned the real Buchholz), and they'll be handling 14% of the games instead of 40%. That's a great point.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 30, 2016 12:25:56 GMT -5
Farrell is a total badass, I bet he likes some Van Halen.
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Post by telson13 on Sept 30, 2016 22:46:37 GMT -5
Eh, the point is to win games. Some unspoken, outdated, "make sure the rookie knows his place" philosophy is wholly counterproductive if it pushes a guy out of the place where he most helps the team's chances of winning. I get the whole "you have to earn it" gestalt, and there's certainly some benefit. But I would argue that he's earned it. I forgot to use the sarcasm font. Apologies. D'Oh! I should've caught that, coming from you. The fault is all mine, sir.
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Post by kman22 on Oct 1, 2016 0:48:56 GMT -5
Unlike the NFL, home field advantage is only home field advantage if the series goes the distance. In a 5 game series, that may be important. In a 7 game, for the team that does not have HFA, all they have to do is split the 1st 2 games, then they have HFA. IMO, the "home" team has more pressure on them to sweep the 1st 2 games. If it goes 3 games (in a 5 game series), home field advantage gives you 2 home games to 1. You could take control of the series before the other team gets a home game.
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