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Post by bosox on Oct 1, 2016 21:54:43 GMT -5
The offense needs to score early and often in the post season so it's a non-save situation.
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Post by doctorduck21 on Oct 1, 2016 21:54:57 GMT -5
I feel like I was one of the few happy to get Kimbrel but I'm done with this dude. He's so unwilling to throw inside the zone like he's some junk baller instead of throwing 96+. I don't know if he's unwilling. Incapable may be more like it. His pitch scatterplot on the pitch tracker looks like something I'd get if I threw darts blindfolded with my thumb taped to my index finger. I think it's probably both. He can't throw strikes and still throws outside the zone going for the strikeout. Just frustrated with how awful it is to watch him pitch. Only thing worse to watch in my sports fandom is the Oregon defense trying to tackle
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 22:00:03 GMT -5
Thanks Kimbrel for screwing things up at the end. First you gave the Red Sox the worst clincher in baseball history because you couldn't throw any strikes in a 3-0 game. Now they're going to lose the home field advantage against the already disadvantaged Indians because you have to walk the leadoff hitter and throw a wild pitch. I'm getting very tired of his act. The walks drive me absolutely bonkers. I expect that at some point I'll be thanking Kimbrel for relieving the Red Sox of their season. At this point I kind of feel more comfortable with Koji and his 86 MPH fastball closing with Ziegler in the 8th inning. If Kimbrel was anything close to the guy I thought we were getting I had no major issue with the trade they made, but he's been so aggravating - to the point I can't stand watching him. It's like watching Healthcliff Slocumb all over again or Mark Clear before him. There is nothing worse than a closer who can't throw strikes! And for a long time, this guy was among the best in the game. His control was never exactly Koji-esqe, but he was never THIS bad before. I hope Bannister can fix him - AND QUICKLY! Just read that Kimbrell's BB/9 this year is 5.0, up from a career average of 3.6. So yeah...this has been a consistent act all season long.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 1, 2016 22:02:50 GMT -5
Scott Lauber: John Farrell on Craig Kimbrel: "He's the guy in that spot, and we'll continue to (go to him)." Says Kimbrel is working through issue with his mechanics that has led to command issues.
Because established bullpen rolls and proven closers are proven and stuff.
Please Dave Dombrowski, stage an intervention now.
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Post by tizzle on Oct 1, 2016 22:03:36 GMT -5
Farrell and Kimbrel- two reasons to not be at all confident in the postseason.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 1, 2016 22:04:55 GMT -5
“@brianmacp: To Carl Willis, the trouble for Craig Kimbrel is posture-related, getting too rotational, missing too often to his glove side.”
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 1, 2016 22:05:46 GMT -5
“@jmastrodonato: Kimbrel says it’s a minor adjustment he’s made plenty of times this year. Not concerned. Willis: ”it’s an adjustment he can make quickly“”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 22:06:10 GMT -5
Scott Lauber: John Farrell on Craig Kimbrel: "He's the guy in that spot, and we'll continue to (go to him)." Says Kimbrel is working through issue with his mechanics that has led to command issues. Because established bullpen rolls and proven closers are proven and stuff. Please Dave Dombrowski, stage an intervention now. Mechanical issues...perfect. Because that's exactly what you want to hear days before the postseason. Can you imagine this guy on the road against, say, the Cubs? He'd walk the bases loaded on 12 pitches.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 1, 2016 22:08:23 GMT -5
Scott Lauber: John Farrell on Craig Kimbrel: "He's the guy in that spot, and we'll continue to (go to him)." Says Kimbrel is working through issue with his mechanics that has led to command issues. Because established bullpen rolls and proven closers are proven and stuff. Please Dave Dombrowski, stage an intervention now. Mechanical issues...perfect. Because that's exactly what you want to hear days before the postseason. Can you imagine this guy on the road against, say, the Cubs? He'd walk the bases loaded on 12 pitches. Yes. I'd rather hear it's a mechanical issue than an injury. One is easy to fix and the other could mean DL
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Post by tizzle on Oct 1, 2016 22:08:47 GMT -5
That run may not have even scored if you had your actual left fielder in the game instead of your utility infielder. Explain to me the logic behind pinch hitting Holt over Benintendi for Young with 2 on and no outs. Thanks. Easy. It's because Holt is a better bunter. Oh, wait....
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Post by Guidas on Oct 1, 2016 22:09:55 GMT -5
Mechanical issues...perfect. Because that's exactly what you want to hear days before the postseason. Can you imagine this guy on the road against, say, the Cubs? He'd walk the bases loaded on 12 pitches. Yes. I'd rather hear it's a mechanical issue than an injury. One is easy to fix and the other could mean DL At this point I'd take the injury and take my chances with Kelly and Koji.
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Post by bosox on Oct 1, 2016 22:14:38 GMT -5
Scott Lauber: John Farrell on Craig Kimbrel: "He's the guy in that spot, and we'll continue to (go to him)." Says Kimbrel is working through issue with his mechanics that has led to command issues. Because established bullpen rolls and proven closers are proven and stuff. Please Dave Dombrowski, stage an intervention now. Kimbrel is DD's guy - no intervention is around the corner.
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Post by klostrophobic on Oct 1, 2016 22:16:09 GMT -5
Hopefully Kimbrel has just been experimenting with stuff given that these games are essentially meaningless. If not—woof—he's been absolutely terrible the last few outings.
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Post by bosox on Oct 1, 2016 22:17:47 GMT -5
That run may not have even scored if you had your actual left fielder in the game instead of your utility infielder. Explain to me the logic behind pinch hitting Holt over Benintendi for Young with 2 on and no outs. Thanks. Easy. It's because Holt is a better bunter. Oh, wait.... If they really wanted a bunt, Leon is probably the best bunter on the team.
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Post by telson13 on Oct 1, 2016 22:24:09 GMT -5
With election season coming up, I'm waiting for the "Kelly for Closer" campaign.
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Post by bosox on Oct 1, 2016 22:32:35 GMT -5
That's one great advantage for the O's going into the post season - they have a shut down closer that shortens the game to 8 innings. However, they have to get to the 9th with a lead.
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Post by patford on Oct 1, 2016 22:40:42 GMT -5
Kimbrel is worthless. Any pitcher who can not throw strikes is worthless. They might as well bring back Bard. Kimbrel is clearly one of those people who can not perform on the big stage. And certainly not in Boston.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 1, 2016 22:44:28 GMT -5
really...if it is an easy fix...why isn't he doing it now or didn't he do it tonight? I am gonna pray that this isn't some bullspit here. We are definitely going to need A game Kimbrel for the postseason.
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Post by bosox on Oct 1, 2016 22:49:01 GMT -5
really...if it is an easy fix...why isn't he doing it now or didn't he do it tonight? I am gonna pray that this isn't some bullspit here. We are definitely going to need A game Kimbrel for the postseason. I'm not buying it. It's happened at times during the season. I think he has given up more walks than hits given up. Why is it an easy fix now? Not buying the spit.
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Post by patford on Oct 1, 2016 22:53:17 GMT -5
If they pitch him in any situation he he will blow the game. He is completely incapable of throwing strikes. If one of his pitches is in the strike zone you can be sure it's the upper right hand corner and he was trying to hit the lower right hand corner. His stuff is fine, he just has no control at all and never will in this town. He's toast. I've seen it too many times to not recognize it. He can't play in this town.
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Post by Coreno on Oct 1, 2016 23:45:52 GMT -5
If they pitch him in any situation he he will blow the game. He is completely incapable of throwing strikes. If one of his pitches is in the strike zone you can be sure it's the upper right hand corner and he was trying to hit the lower right hand corner. His stuff is fine, he just has no control at all and never will in this town. He's toast. I've seen it too many times to not recognize it. He can't play in this town. Glad nobody is being over dramatic here.
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Post by danr on Oct 2, 2016 0:02:41 GMT -5
I was among those who liked the Kimbrel trade but right now I am regretting that. There simply is no excuse for what happened tonight. Maybe there is a mechanical issue that can be solved quickly but if there is not, and if he pitches like this in the post season, the Sox will be out of it early. If that happens because of him I hope he gets traded to a bad team.
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Post by nomar on Oct 2, 2016 0:43:37 GMT -5
Kimbrel would probably be completely fine if it wasn't for the pressure fans and media put on him
He's gonna be fine and when he shits people down in the playoffs people will forget this.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 2, 2016 0:49:53 GMT -5
Kimbrel would probably be completely fine if it wasn't for the pressure fans and media put on him He's gonna be fine and when he shits people down in the playoffs people will forget this. Ewwww :-)
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Post by nomar on Oct 2, 2016 0:51:29 GMT -5
Shuts
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