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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 19, 2017 1:00:22 GMT -5
Yeah ownership hates bad press. They try to avoid it all costs. That's what arbitration hearings bring. Drew and the Sox will probably meet somewhere in the middle. A gap of almost 2 million is a lot though and it doesn't surprise me to see him unsigned yet if that's the case. It's not about bad press. I think most fans couldn't care less about whether the arbitration cases settle or go to a hearing. It's about the fact that in an arbitration hearing, the team literally has to go in and, in front of the player himself, explain to the arbitrator why the player isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is and point out all of the ways he's lacking. It's just not a good situation and a key reason why very few cases actually go to the arbitrator. Think about how you'd feel if your employer or teacher went into this situation and started listing all of the things you're not very good at. It tends to create ill will between the team and the player - a friend who works at an agency told me once about a player (made a couple all-star teams, was an average or better regular for 6-7 seasons) who never forgave his team for what they said about him in the arb hearing and he held it against them in contract negotiations thereafter. Yeah I used a poor choice of words. This ownership group cares about what everyone thinks about them, I'm sure this includes the players. I just could never see bad blood created from them over a couple million dollars. It's just bad business, which this ownership group would never do.
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Post by brockholtsuperstar on Jan 19, 2017 21:35:06 GMT -5
Not sure where this belongs but Alex Hassan retired today. Loved following him coming up, Wish him the best
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 19, 2017 21:39:55 GMT -5
Not sure where this belongs but Alex Hassan retired today. Loved following him coming up, Wish him the best From the staff twitter feed: Alex Hassan @alexhassan27 Last week I re-enrolled at Duke to finish off my last semester of school to complete my degree, officially ending my baseball career. Good for him. I was just thinking about him a few days ago. Glad to see he's making a wise move.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 19, 2017 23:06:27 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 20, 2017 11:06:39 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 20, 2017 11:16:40 GMT -5
Do players actually attend their own arbitration hearings? I'm skeptical Well according to this, they're required to attend - that seems odd The player is a party to the arbitration. I don't see why it'd be weird that they have to attend.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 20, 2017 11:46:04 GMT -5
I wouldn't borrow trouble by worrying about it now.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 20, 2017 23:35:43 GMT -5
Three parter:
John: Which of the current crop of young superstar shortstops (Correa, Lindor, Bogaerts, Seager…) is the first to move to a different position? Which of them stick at SS throughout?
Klaw: Lindor and Bogaerts are 100% shortstops to me. Correa is most likely to move of the four, given his size and defensive metrics that say he’s been below average. Seager is already defying the odds; he’s the biggest SS in MLB history, but he’s playing well there and I doubt they move him until he either plays worse or they have a better option in the system (which I don’t think they do anyway).
Berman86: Have we achieved peak Belanger of SS’s w/ all of the recently promoted talent & all of the shiny SS prospects flooding the minors?
Klaw: It’s pretty incredible – I remember the Jeter, A-Rod, Nomar, Tejada years and how people talked of that as a historical moment, but the current belanger of shortstops in the big leagues is even better, and similarly young.
Larry: Any chance Addison Russell makes it into the conversation with the other young stud SS, or is he a notch below?
Klaw: I’ve always been a fan, but as of this moment, he’s not with the quartet someone mentioned earlier.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 21, 2017 14:55:22 GMT -5
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Post by semperfisox on Jan 21, 2017 18:09:00 GMT -5
Benny added 20 pounds of muscle this offseason. Cant wait to see the season he has.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 25, 2017 15:09:09 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 25, 2017 15:35:41 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me who the Sox would rather have on the 40 man roster, Brentz or Selsky? I'm thinking if the Sox wanted to claim someone else, that they DFA Brentz. Selsky is a little more versatile and he has shown better numbers in a short sample size in the majors. Plus, Selsky has options remaining and Brentz has none remaining. The Sox are going to DFA him at some point by the end of spring training anyways.
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 25, 2017 15:52:55 GMT -5
Selsky, because he has two options remaining. And yeah, I'd have to think Brentz would be the first to go if they need a roster spot. Though once they get to spring training Carson Smith can go on the 60-day. Ideally they'd wait for as close to spring training as possible to designate anyone, just because there's a better chance they'll pass through waivers. If they designated Brentz today a team would only need a 40-man spot to claim him. If they wait until the start of the season a team would need a 25-man roster spot for him.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 25, 2017 16:07:10 GMT -5
Selsky, because he has two options remaining. And yeah, I'd have to think Brentz would be the first to go if they need a roster spot. Though once they get to spring training Carson Smith can go on the 60-day. Ideally they'd wait for as close to spring training as possible to designate anyone, just because there's a better chance they'll pass through waivers. If they designated Brentz today a team would only need a 40-man spot to claim him. If they wait until the start of the season a team would need a 25-man roster spot for him. That's what I was thinking. I am hoping first the Sox to claim Jabari Blash like you mentioned and actually start to gain some much needed outfield depth. I keep checking to see if anyone claimed him and nothing yet. I hope he gets claimed and Brentz gets DFA'D, I wouldn't be sad to see him go. There's a million Brentz type players in the league.
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 25, 2017 16:13:19 GMT -5
I'm guessing that if they claimed Selsky it's because they think he's better than Blash. Both were available at the same time. I can't remember ever having seen Selsky play so I'd only be checking the stat line (which is solid). I'm actually pretty happy with the outfield depth now. Even if Brentz were to get claimed, they have Young and Holt on the bench, Selsky in the minors with options, Castillo in an emergency or if he plays better. Plus their right fielder is a good center fielder and their left fielder could do it in a pinch.
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Post by slam761 on Jan 25, 2017 18:03:10 GMT -5
How does Travis not make it at least over Vogelbach? From what I've heard he's a platoon guy who can't field. Travis has to be better than that.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jan 25, 2017 18:39:28 GMT -5
Benny added 20 pounds of muscle this offseason. Cant wait to see the season he has. I am slightly nervous about this. Obviously need to trust the player and the staff (plan) that he is on. However, will it effect other aspects of his game and is it "too much too fast" (Shakedown Street). And does this carry injury risk? Things we never would really know, but I get nervous around weight increases. Hoping for the best, as always, he has an exciting future.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jan 25, 2017 19:34:27 GMT -5
Benny added 20 pounds of muscle this offseason. Cant wait to see the season he has. I am slightly nervous about this. Obviously need to trust the player and the staff (plan) that he is on. However, will it effect other aspects of his game and is it "too much too fast" (Shakedown Street). And does this carry injury risk? Things we never would really know, but I get nervous around weight increases. Hoping for the best, as always, he has an exciting future. Well for one thing 20 pounds is almost certainly an exaggeration.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 25, 2017 20:27:53 GMT -5
I'm guessing that if they claimed Selsky it's because they think he's better than Blash. Both were available at the same time. I can't remember ever having seen Selsky play so I'd only be checking the stat line (which is solid). I'm actually pretty happy with the outfield depth now. Even if Brentz were to get claimed, they have Young and Holt on the bench, Selsky in the minors with options, Castillo in an emergency or if he plays better. Plus their right fielder is a good center fielder and their left fielder could do it in a pinch. I don't even think Castillo is a option for more than a few games. The Sox can't keep his salary on the payroll. Right now they have 2 guys on the bench behind the starting 3 outfielders and now Selsky as a option behind them (who is probably a LF at best). Right now Junior Lake would be behind Selsky and that makes me uneasy to say the least. Blash went unclaimed and was out righted to AAA for the Padres. So no one in the league was interested apparently.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 25, 2017 20:28:47 GMT -5
Drew Pomeranz agreed to a 4.45 million dollar deal and avoided arbitration.
I think the only guy left unsigned is Abad now.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jan 25, 2017 21:08:32 GMT -5
I think the only guy left unsigned is Abad now. Let's keep it that way.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 26, 2017 4:34:48 GMT -5
I think the only guy left unsigned is Abad now. Let's keep it that way. Haha yeah that's funny. I still don't know why they tendered him a contract. They were better off donating the 2 plus million to the Jimmy fund or something.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jan 26, 2017 10:51:04 GMT -5
Lefties were .151/.195/.264 vs. Abad in 22.0 IP with the Sox last year and .236/.287/.388 with a .295 wOBA against him in his career. I think that's worth a flier.
Robby Ross and Robby Scott are the only two other lefties even in consideration for the 2017 roster. If Abad is used with limited appearances against RHH, he's got some value. If not, it's a relatively easy dump with presumed replacement by Scott
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 26, 2017 11:10:24 GMT -5
I say this as someone who defended Abad quite a bit and attributed his problems to Farrell using him FAR too much against righties: For a team that is so close to the top of their budget, $1.5 to $2.2 million extra isn't worth the difference between Scott (or Ysla) and Abad. He should have been non-tendered.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 26, 2017 13:53:00 GMT -5
Thornburg also has pretty big reverse splits because of his changeup. They'll be fine against LHB. It's best to give Farrell fewer choices on matchups.
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