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Post by James Dunne on Oct 25, 2016 21:41:25 GMT -5
Game 1 10/25 Chicago (Jon Lester) @ Cleveland (Corey Kluber) - Cleveland wins 6-0 Game 2 10/26 Chicago (Jake Arrieta) @ Cleveland (Trevor Bauer)
Game 3 10/28 Cleveland (Josh Tomlin) @ Chicago (Kyle Hendricks) Game 4 10/29 Cleveland (Corey Kluber) @ Chicago (John Lackey) Game 5 10/30 Cleveland (Trevor Bauer) @ Chicago (Jon Lester) IF NECESSARY
Game 6 11/1 Chicago (Undecided) @ Cleveland (Undecided) IF NECESSARY Game 7 11/2 Chicago (Undecided) @ Cleveland (Corey Kluber) If NECESSARY
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 25, 2016 21:43:58 GMT -5
So, observation from tonight carried over from the LCS: for the first time in his playoff announcing career, Buck seems to have a color commentator that he has pretty good rhythm with. Part of that is just Smoltz being really good. But I actually enjoyed McCarver when he wasn't paired with Buck - they just had totally different styles and senses of humor.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 25, 2016 22:00:25 GMT -5
So unless I just missed something, Maddon just sent David Ross to the plate with the bases loaded and two outs down by three runs in the seventh inning. After he struck out, he was taken out for defense? Huh?
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Post by DesignatedKyle on Oct 25, 2016 22:05:13 GMT -5
Lindor is so good
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Post by Coreno on Oct 25, 2016 22:13:57 GMT -5
Game 4 10/29 Cleveland (Corey Kluber) @ Chicago (John Lackey) Game 5 10/30 Cleveland (Trevor Bauer) @ Chicago (Jon Lackey) IF NECESSARY Pretty bold strategy by Maddon, penciling in Lackey for both these games
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Post by soxjim on Oct 25, 2016 22:22:39 GMT -5
So, observation from tonight carried over from the LCS: for the first time in his playoff announcing career, Buck seems to have a color commentator that he has pretty good rhythm with. Part of that is just Smoltz being really good. But I actually enjoyed McCarver when he wasn't paired with Buck - they just had totally different styles and senses of humor. I think Smoltz is terrible. And overall I can't stand how they don't show the box. At times I got so frustrated listening, I turned down the sound for a time. How is it that Smoltz/Fox doesn't know Napoli's last team was Texas and not the Red Sox? How does that happen?
Just horrible.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 25, 2016 22:24:35 GMT -5
Game 4 10/29 Cleveland (Corey Kluber) @ Chicago (John Lackey) Game 5 10/30 Cleveland (Trevor Bauer) @ Chicago (Jon Lackey) IF NECESSARY Pretty bold strategy by Maddon, penciling in Lackey for both these games He's so nontraditional!
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 26, 2016 7:54:30 GMT -5
What are people's thoughts on Miller's usage last night? Too aggressive or just right? It pretty much eliminates him for Game 2, which is a Bauer start, but the Indians have Salazar to piggyback so the dynamic isn't quite the same as the previous two series. It seems like a pretty clear indication that the Indians feel they need to win the three Kluber starts then steal one of the other four.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 26, 2016 8:19:02 GMT -5
What are people's thoughts on Miller's usage last night? Too aggressive or just right? It pretty much eliminates him for Game 2, which is a Bauer start, but the Indians have Salazar to piggyback so the dynamic isn't quite the same as the previous two series. It seems like a pretty clear indication that the Indians feel they need to win the three Kluber starts then steal one of the other four. I think that's the approach Francona is taking. Don't think he's worried about going for the sweep. Miller should have two days of rest if he doesn't pitch tonight, and even that - I wouldn't be shocked if he pitched an inning or a fraction of an inning. Francona does have other capable relievers in Otero and Shaw and Manship. He's going to have to use them at some point.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 26, 2016 8:56:54 GMT -5
What are people's thoughts on Miller's usage last night? Too aggressive or just right? It pretty much eliminates him for Game 2, which is a Bauer start, but the Indians have Salazar to piggyback so the dynamic isn't quite the same as the previous two series. It seems like a pretty clear indication that the Indians feel they need to win the three Kluber starts then steal one of the other four. I think that's the approach Francona is taking. Don't think he's worried about going for the sweep. Miller should have two days of rest if he doesn't pitch tonight, and even that - I wouldn't be shocked if he pitched an inning or a fraction of an inning. Francona does have other capable relievers in Otero and Shaw and Manship. He's going to have to use them at some point. Don't forget Danny Salazar.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Oct 26, 2016 9:10:33 GMT -5
"""Little roller...BEHIND THE BAG!!!"""" 30 years...Thank Christ (and Ortiz) for the trifecta of 04, 07, 13.
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Post by bosox81 on Oct 26, 2016 9:36:52 GMT -5
Chris Coughlan started in right field last night over Heyward. I don't think there's a single statistic that puts Coughlan ahead of Heyward.
Also, someone said Jon Lester would've done better than Porcello against the Indians, I recall? I don't know why people keep underestimating the effect of pitching against an AL lineup.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 26, 2016 9:46:57 GMT -5
Chris Coughlan started in right field last night over Heyward. I don't think there's a single statistic that puts Coughlan ahead of Heyward. Also, someone said Jon Lester would've done better than Porcello against the Indians, I recall? I don't know why people keep underestimating the effect of pitching against an AL lineup. Well Lester lasted an extra inning and gave up 2 fewer earned runs, so he was technically better than Porcello. The real story of last night was Kluber and how he continues to shut down some of the best offensive lineups throughout the game this postseason. Considering the line-ups he's faced, it's hard to say that this isn't one of the most underrated impressive runs in post season history.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 26, 2016 9:58:51 GMT -5
Chris Coughlan started in right field last night over Heyward. I don't think there's a single statistic that puts Coughlan ahead of Heyward. Not over the long term. But man, Heyward's swing is really, really messed up right now. Though if I was going to bench Heyward, Almora makes more sense than Coughlan I think.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 26, 2016 10:03:37 GMT -5
Chris Coughlan started in right field last night over Heyward. I don't think there's a single statistic that puts Coughlan ahead of Heyward. Not over the long term. But man, Heyward's swing is really, really messed up right now. Though if I was going to bench Heyward, Almora makes more sense than Coughlan I think. Especially defensively...
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 26, 2016 12:17:42 GMT -5
Watching the game I couldn't help but wonder if some of us would complain about Farrell sending Cody Allen out on a 6-0 game or not removing Miller earlier when he ran into trouble twice.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 26, 2016 12:20:38 GMT -5
Watching the game I couldn't help but wonder if some of us would complain about Farrell sending Cody Allen out on a 6-0 game or not removing Miller earlier when he ran into trouble twice. Search your feelings, you know it to be true. Well there was 6 days in between their last appearances. I'm sure this was the biggest factor in Allen coming in and the biggest factor for leaving Miller in.
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 26, 2016 12:25:19 GMT -5
Well there was 6 days in between their last appearances. I'm sure this was the biggest factor in Allen coming in and the biggest factor for leaving Miller in. Yeah and it was the right move. Preventing guys from getting rusty during the season was also the right move, but it often caught some flak.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Oct 26, 2016 12:41:43 GMT -5
Watching the game I couldn't help but wonder if some of us would complain about Farrell sending Cody Allen out on a 6-0 game or not removing Miller earlier when he ran into trouble twice. Search your feelings, you know it to be true. Farrell does that in April. This is the world series you ride the hot hand now, I don't remember people complaining when he rode Koji and Tazawa in the playoffs in 2013. People complain when Farrell does it in the regular season when there is no reason for it.
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Post by jmei on Oct 26, 2016 13:04:32 GMT -5
Well there was 6 days in between their last appearances. I'm sure this was the biggest factor in Allen coming in and the biggest factor for leaving Miller in. Yeah and it was the right move. Preventing guys from getting rusty during the season was also the right move, but it often caught some flak. Francona didn't put him in because Allen would have been rusty otherwise. He did it because it's the World Series, where a six run lead is still higher leverage (in the championship probability added sense) than a one run game in the regular season, and where there are enough days off that overuse is less of a concern.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 26, 2016 13:07:40 GMT -5
Well there was 6 days in between their last appearances. I'm sure this was the biggest factor in Allen coming in and the biggest factor for leaving Miller in. Yeah and it was the right move. Preventing guys from getting rusty during the season was also the right move, but it often caught some flak. Do we still need to go over this again? You don't keep guys like Tazawa sharp by warming them up and or pitching them for 5 out of 6 days. You also don't keep guys like Robbie Ross sharp by pitching him once in 12 days when the entire bullpen sucks. In the playoffs, you do anything it takes to win, including subjecting your best pitchers to extreme overuse which hurts him the following season. Or in a case like Keith Foulke, basically ends their career.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 26, 2016 13:23:28 GMT -5
Chris Coughlan started in right field last night over Heyward. I don't think there's a single statistic that puts Coughlan ahead of Heyward. Also, someone said Jon Lester would've done better than Porcello against the Indians, I recall? I don't know why people keep underestimating the effect of pitching against an AL lineup. How did Theo do in giving that crazy contract to Heyward? It's like Carl Crawford 2.0. Heyward is just not a good hitter.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 26, 2016 13:24:58 GMT -5
Yeah and it was the right move. Preventing guys from getting rusty during the season was also the right move, but it often caught some flak. Do we still need to go over this again? You don't keep guys like Tazawa sharp by warming them up and or pitching them for 5 out of 6 days. You also don't keep guys like Robbie Ross sharp by pitching him once in 12 days when the entire bullpen sucks. In the playoffs, you do anything it takes to win, including subjecting your best pitchers to extreme overuse which hurts him the following season. Or in a case like Keith Foulke, basically ending their career. Just wanted to thank Keith Foulke!
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Post by bigpupp on Oct 26, 2016 13:25:18 GMT -5
So unless I just missed something, Maddon just sent David Ross to the plate with the bases loaded and two outs down by three runs in the seventh inning. After he struck out, he was taken out for defense? Huh? I'm sorry, but the correct response to all of Maddon's moves is "He's got a brilliant mind." We haven't finalized an official memo, but you're not allowed to question a move by another manager.
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Post by nomar on Oct 26, 2016 14:07:18 GMT -5
Heartwarming to see two World Series teams working together to vindicate John Farrell.
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