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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 10, 2016 10:32:31 GMT -5
Yes it is. We have no idea who or what he will be, none. All we know is that he dominated in A+ but with a few caveats about secondary pitches and control. Those could be amplified on the trip up. If so, the pen would seem like a very good place to break him in to introduce him to the majors. Arms like Kopech's are exactly why you don't want to be paying 100+ million for relievers. You may already have that gold in your system.
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Post by deepjohn on Dec 3, 2016 17:50:46 GMT -5
You can do it deepjohn, we're all rooting for you. The way I read klaw, he meant there's almost no chance Kopech is called up ... late next year as a starter. He just omitted the last part, because it was part of the question (as I read it). And surprising even myself, as I think about it, I actually agree with klaw about that. By late next year, Kopech will almost surely have hit his innings limit (unless he needs a rest some time earlier in the season). Ergo, "almost no chance". But I do think there is a very good chance ..... Kopech will be so dominant that he gets called up early next year, as a starter. So yyeeaah. The real problem with this scenario is just that already the Sox top 5, with the re-emergence of stellar Buchholz (after he raised his arm slot) and a healthy Wright, are just so freakin good. Kopech will need to be Felix Hernandez good to force his way into that rotation(barring injury). This past year, I thought any playoff bound team would have been bat-sh## insane not to call up Kopech as a reliever, because Kopech had innings left, and a power reliever with Chapmanesque ability would probably make the difference. Then Kopech suffered the (backwards diagnosed) dead-arm injury. So all bets were off.
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Post by telson13 on Dec 3, 2016 23:21:03 GMT -5
You can do it deepjohn, we're all rooting for you. The way I read klaw, he meant there's almost no chance Kopech is called up ... late next year as a starter. He just omitted the last part, because it was part of the question (as I read it). And surprising even myself, as I think about it, I actually agree with klaw about that. By late next year, Kopech will almost surely have hit his innings limit (unless he needs a rest some time earlier in the season). Ergo, "almost no chance". But I do think there is a very good chance ..... Kopech will be so dominant that he gets called up early next year, as a starter. So yyeeaah. The real problem with this scenario is just that already the Sox top 5, with the re-emergence of stellar Buchholz (after he raised his arm slot) and a healthy Wright, are just so freakin good. Kopech will need to be Felix Hernandez good to force his way into that rotation(barring injury). This past year, I thought any playoff bound team would have been bat-sh## insane not to call up Kopech as a reliever, because Kopech had innings left, and a power reliever with Chapmanesque ability would probably make the difference. Then Kopech suffered the (backwards diagnosed) dead-arm injury. So all bets were off. As much as people break your balls on predictions (myself included), I agree re: 2017 with Kopech and the rotation. There's little chance he starts after August (at least in MLB, barring a 2016 Urias-like year). But DD isn't afraid to promote young pitchers aggressively, so if Kopech is mowing them down in 2 months of AA/AAA, I could see him getting a shot. But that rotation is good. Potentially outstanding. It could be very, very tough to crack barring catastrophe or some major trades.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 25, 2017 21:24:33 GMT -5
Just got the Handbook.
1. Andrew Benintendi, of 2. Rafael Devers, 3b 3. Jason Groome, lhp 4. Sam Travis, 1b 5. Bobby Dalbec, 3b 6. Roniel Raudes, rhp 7. Brian Johnson 8. Marco Hernandez 9. C.J. Chatham 10. Josh Ockimey 11. Michael Chavis 12. Mike Shawaryn 13. Travis Lakins 14. Nick Longhi 15. Trey Ball 16. Jake Cosart 17. Robby Scott 18. Kyle Martin 19. Yoan Aybar 20. Gerson Bautista 21. Ben Taylor 22. Luis Ysla 23. Chandler Shepherd 24. Lorenzo Cedrola 25. Yeison Coca 26. Stephen Nogosek 27. Bryan Mata 28. Jamie Callahan 29. Roldani Baldwin 30. Darwinzon Hernandez 31. Joseph Monge
Obviously there's a lot more there and I'd suggest buying the book.
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Post by telson13 on Feb 28, 2017 2:31:04 GMT -5
Just got the Handbook. 1. Andrew Benintendi, of 2. Rafael Devers, 3b 3. Jason Groome, lhp 4. Sam Travis, 1b 5. Bobby Dalbec, 3b 6. Roniel Raudes, rhp 7. Brian Johnson 8. Marco Hernandez 9. C.J. Chatham 10. Josh Ockimey 11. Michael Chavis 12. Mike Shawaryn 13. Travis Lakins 14. Nick Longhi 15. Trey Ball 16. Jake Cosart 17. Robby Scott 18. Kyle Martin 19. Yoan Aybar 20. Gerson Bautista 21. Ben Taylor 22. Luis Ysla 23. Chandler Shepherd 24. Lorenzo Cedrola 25. Yeison Coca 26. Stephen Nogosek 27. Bryan Mata 28. Jamie Callahan 29. Roldani Baldwin 30. Darwinzon Hernandez 31. Joseph Monge Obviously there's a lot more there and I'd suggest buying the book. Looks like the current New England snow cover.
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 28, 2017 8:51:12 GMT -5
I know BAs draft/college coverage and minor league coverage are from different groups. But it's hard for me to put together how they could put Shaun Anderson at #151 overall in their 2016 pre-draft rankings and then not include him in the Top 31 of a system that has some pretty serious depth issues. He faced 21 batters! And yeah, it went basically as poorly as it possibly could have ... but 21 batters!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 28, 2017 11:58:22 GMT -5
I know BAs draft/college coverage and minor league coverage are from different groups. But it's hard for me to put together how they could put Shaun Anderson at #151 overall in their 2016 pre-draft rankings and then not include him in the Top 31 of a system that has some pretty serious depth issues. He faced 21 batters! And yeah, it went basically as poorly as it possibly could have ... but 21 batters! Reports were that his stuff was down too. We asked Alex about this on the podcast, I think? That said, I'm personally inclined to give him a mulligan. Games pitched, IP at Florida by year: 2014: 14, 17.2 2015: 16, 22.0 2016: 33, 43.0 So he doubled his work over the same time period (accounting for the fact that he pitched on the Cape in 2015, throwing another 22 innings, but the innings output was over a months-longer period). No, it's not a ton of innings, but it's getting up and down a lot more. I'm sure he probably was gassed a bit. He's someone I want to get eyes on in ST, for sure.
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 28, 2017 17:20:01 GMT -5
I know BAs draft/college coverage and minor league coverage are from different groups. But it's hard for me to put together how they could put Shaun Anderson at #151 overall in their 2016 pre-draft rankings and then not include him in the Top 31 of a system that has some pretty serious depth issues. He faced 21 batters! And yeah, it went basically as poorly as it possibly could have ... but 21 batters! I know BAs draft/college coverage and minor league coverage are from different groups. But it's hard for me to put together how they could put Shaun Anderson at #151 overall in their 2016 pre-draft rankings and then not include him in the Top 31 of a system that has some pretty serious depth issues. He faced 21 batters! And yeah, it went basically as poorly as it possibly could have ... but 21 batters! Reports were that his stuff was down too. We asked Alex about this on the podcast, I think? That said, I'm personally inclined to give him a mulligan. Games pitched, IP at Florida by year: 2014: 14, 17.2 2015: 16, 22.0 2016: 33, 43.0 So he doubled his work over the same time period (accounting for the fact that he pitched on the Cape in 2015, throwing another 22 innings, but the innings output was over a months-longer period). No, it's not a ton of innings, but it's getting up and down a lot more. I'm sure he probably was gassed a bit. He's someone I want to get eyes on in ST, for sure. This is why I love this forum.
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