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Red Sox acquire Thornburg for Shaw, Dubon, Pennington
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Post by mattpicard on Dec 6, 2016 9:01:38 GMT -5
Evan Drellich evandrellich 24s24 seconds ago Sources: Red Sox, Brewers have agreed on a trade. Red Sox expected to land relief pitching. |
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Post by stevedillard on Dec 6, 2016 9:06:42 GMT -5
I think it is telling that my first reaction is that DD will be overpaying on prospects. He just seems to care little about preserving them/winning a trade when he makes up his mind on filling a need. I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by mjammz on Dec 6, 2016 9:09:35 GMT -5
Hopefully this is Tyler Thornburg. He'd make perfect sense.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Dec 6, 2016 9:12:44 GMT -5
Well Thornburg would be a nice addition, but it would take a bit to land him. The Sox do have assets, players like Hernandez, though that would be just the start I think.
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Post by mjammz on Dec 6, 2016 9:18:06 GMT -5
Travis Shaw and Josh Pennington in the deal to Milwaukee. Has to be Thornburg, right?
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 6, 2016 9:18:16 GMT -5
Pennington is one of the guys going to Milwaukee.
Edit: And Shaw? Wasn't expecting that.
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Post by mjammz on Dec 6, 2016 9:20:15 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal
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Source: #RedSox acquire Tyler Thornburg from #Brewers
It is. Good move, he's a very good RP and high K guy
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Post by xycosis on Dec 6, 2016 9:21:15 GMT -5
Speier says Shaw and Pennington shipped to Mil.
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Post by xycosis on Dec 6, 2016 9:24:13 GMT -5
Thornburg
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Post by telluricrook on Dec 6, 2016 9:24:22 GMT -5
Travis Shaw and Josh Pennington in the deal to Milwaukee. Has to be Thornburg, right? In your dreams. They gave up way more than that. |
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Post by mjammz on Dec 6, 2016 9:24:46 GMT -5
Shaw, Dubon, Pennington for Thornburg.
No issues with this at all. Thornburg is very good, cost no money and will give another big arm in the pen.
Now can focus on adding a bat and DH. Subtracting Shaw opens up a spot.
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Post by Smittyw on Dec 6, 2016 9:28:14 GMT -5
Evan Drellich reported Dubon is going to the Brewers as well.
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Post by telluricrook on Dec 6, 2016 9:29:45 GMT -5
Shaw, Dubon, Pennington for Thornburg. No issues with this at all. Thornburg is very good, cost no money and will give another big arm in the pen. Now can focus on adding a bat and DH. Subtracting Shaw opens up a spot. I knew it. If they wanted Thornburg last season at the deadline they would still have to give up way more than this! |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 6, 2016 9:36:35 GMT -5
Mauricio Dubon, Travis Shaw, and Josh Pennington for Tyler Thornburg.
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Post by sarasoxer on Dec 6, 2016 9:37:27 GMT -5
Fastball velocity has increased the last couple of years to the 94-95 range but also has a partially torn UCL that was treated with platelet injection(s) a couple of years ago I believe.
He had high strikeout totals last year following more average ones previously. It appears that he would be a significant improvement over Taz assuming he does not have injury issues.
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Post by soxfanatic on Dec 6, 2016 9:43:45 GMT -5
High cost, but I don't mind it.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 6, 2016 9:44:11 GMT -5
This reminds me of the Kimbrel trade, in that why are those extra pieces moving in only one direction? Dubon and Shaw should've been plenty to get Thornberg - if they're going to hold it up for Pennington, get another piece coming back that your scouts like as well.
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Post by Guidas on Dec 6, 2016 9:45:34 GMT -5
Anyone else feel like this is a player too much (Pennington + Doubon or Shaw seems right). Seems like lot for a reliever, esp one who has had elbow issues in the past.
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Post by atzar on Dec 6, 2016 9:51:42 GMT -5
I feel like this is a lot to give up for a reliever, especially one with a relatively short track record of success. Having said that, I'm not going to lose sleep over anybody we gave up. Two low-ceiling prospects and a 3B who had lost his job down the stretch last year (though he 'won' it back when Moncada clearly wasn't ready yet).
I'm watching that 3B position with some concern right now though.
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 6, 2016 9:52:13 GMT -5
Probably an overpay, but it's not like the Sox are giving up any huge pieces. I just hope he doesn't end up like one of the many relievers who came to Boston and then got hurt or played terribly (Bailey, Melancon, Hanrahan, Smith.)
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 6, 2016 9:53:23 GMT -5
Anyone else feel like this is a player too much (Pennington + Doubon or Shaw seems right). Seems like lot for a reliever, esp one who has had elbow issues in the past. No I don't. Dubon is the only player who I really think about in this package. We saw what Shaw is and it's very replaceable and Pennington is not a player you consider holding up a deal for a guy if you really like him. Hard straight fastballs get eaten for lunch. |
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Post by Guidas on Dec 6, 2016 9:55:26 GMT -5
Dubon seems like he could've been a 3rd or 4th guy in a much bigger trade package for a much better player.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 6, 2016 10:06:37 GMT -5
Someone needs to check on braintoast.
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Post by thursty on Dec 6, 2016 10:07:14 GMT -5
Why not just throw in Betts as well?
The superannuated Dombrowski needs to go; it's sickening
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 6, 2016 10:08:42 GMT -5
Why not just throw in Betts as well? The superannuated Dombrowski needs to go; it's sickening This seems like a slight overreaction. |
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