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2017 Red Sox Rotation Discussion
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 9, 2016 2:57:11 GMT -5
I just don't see DD trading Pomeranz. I know you guys want some prospects back, but he's not the guy that's going to do it. Not only do we have a great top 3, but our 4\5 is ERod and Pomeranz is awesome. Those two could easily be the best 4\5 in the league. Most likely Wright is our #6 and we trade Buchholz.
If Owens can just get back to throwing like he used too I expect a big year. Whatever they changed to try and improve his control destroyed his season. It made him worse. Even when he's wild in the past he was still looking like a good 4\5 at worst. I have serious questions about Johnson, but you never now. He does have the upside.
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Post by voiceofreason on Dec 9, 2016 11:15:13 GMT -5
I find it very difficult that Dombrowski & Co. will put Pomeranz in the bullpen when he was just recently traded for Boston's best pitching prospect – who is considered one of the best in the game. I would place higher odds on Pomeranz being traded over going to the bullpen. (Rockies in a deal for Ryan McMahon?) I think Buchholz is a goner and will be traded for a mid-tier prospect or a bench player that is preferable to Rutledge. Personally, I would rather hang onto as many SP assets as possible which would put Eddy Rodriguez in AAA. I realize that's not feasible though, given the comments of DD and Farrell. So he's in the rotation. That leaves Wright as the swingman. I don't think this is entirely fair to Wright, but he'll get his chance later in the year. Attrition and injury is inevitable. Also – I would be a proponent of a six-man rotation through April. It will ease pitchers in as well as make them more rested for a deep October playoff run. That may mitigate running out of gas later in the year. In addition, there is usually a World Series hangover for starting pitchers because they pitch more innings and have less downtime to recover before spring training. This would also buy Boston a month to determine who belongs in the rotation. It's possible the answer is very simple. Maybe Rodriguez implodes, Pomeranz can't go deep in games, or Wright confirms he's a pumpkin now. (Side note, I'm back after years of lurking; I used to be a regular contributor on the boards a long time ago and unfortunately it looks like I can't remember my username so my archives are gone. Bummer.) I agree with most of this. Trade Clay for prospects and be patient about it. Teams are desperate for SP so let them outbid each other all winter, maybe right up to SP training. Put Erod in AAA to start the season so you can maximize the depth for the season or keep him up and go with a 6 man rotation for a while. If the Sox are fortunate with health and performance you have an extra starter to think about trading at the deadline to fortify what ever need may crop up. On a side note I would consider trading Owens or Elias for other prospects of organizational need. IMO they could be 4/5 starters on many teams while they really don't look like they will help the Sox anytime soon. At the moment they are just wasting away on the farm in a way. 1. Porcello, Cy winner gets first nod 2. Sale had a better year than Price and most likely will have a better season. 3. Price, I expect him to get back to career norms. 4. Pomeranz, hopefully he returns to early 2016 form, if not there are options. 5. Wright, see above 6. Erod, deserves to be in rotation and if Sox go with 6 will be, if not depth out of AAA short term. 7. Bucholtz trade bait for prospects 8/9 Owens/ Elias, both could start for many teams of need right now and won't get much of a shot with the Sox, rather than wasting away trade one of them for prospects. 10. Johnson, hope for a return to previous form which makes him a good depth option or trade chip. I see some of these AAA depth pitchers as a vehicle to rebuilding the farm. How many AAAA pitchers does a team need with a rotation like the Sox?
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Post by Coreno on Dec 9, 2016 11:27:13 GMT -5
Find a taker for Buch. Wright in the pen as depth because he's Wakefield 2.0 so you can. I don't care about the order for the 5 others, because it doesn't matter.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 9, 2016 11:33:09 GMT -5
I'm reposting this from something I brought up yesterday (Maybe this is another thread, but what should the rotation be?) I'd like the Sox not to put their eggs in order so to speak, but rather spread out the big 3 of Sale(L), Price(L) and Porcello(R). During the regular season breaking them up 1, 3 & 5 the order matters not. It allmost makes it a sure thing the bullpen is not overtaxed 2 days in a row (or would you buy less likely?), thus likely decreasing the amount of times Farrel has to make decisions on high leverage situations based on usage etc. I'd go with E-Rod(L) and Pomeranz (R) as your other 2 starters or #2 & #4.. Wright is my swing man who is the first to fill in for an injured starter because I believe as a knuckler he'd have an easier time increasing from 1 to 2 innings of work to eventually 6 to 7 in short order. Buchholz is finally moved for prospects and Elias, Owens and Johnson becomes your 7th, 8th and 9th starters in case the injury bug hits hard. This team should be able to clinch a spot in enough time to shuffle the rotation, if even needed, at that point to put your eggs in order. Well, not a terrible idea to break them up, but keep a few things in mind: 1) Going 1,3,5 still means you've got the guys at 5 and 1 pitching on consecutive days, so you're not actually breaking them up, really. 2) You pitch your best starters first in the rotation so that they pitch most often. You can skip your worst starter if you have an off day, or at least push him back, to give more starts to your best pitchers. IMO, it's more important to get the best pitchers out there than to worry about splitting them up. 3) As stated above, the rotation doesn't matter past the first couple weeks, really. The opening day rotation was Price/Buchholz/Kelly/Porcello/Wright. By April 21, if you take Price as the number 1, it was Price/Wright/Buchholz/Owens/Porcello. Guys get hurt, skipped, pushed back, etc.
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Post by scarr0214 on Dec 9, 2016 12:38:47 GMT -5
Buchholz will not be on the team next year. While describing the rotation a few days back Farrell left Clay out. If I had to guess there are a couple teams who have agreed to give up one low level prospect with limited potential for Clay, but are still looking at the same back end starters on the free agent market before they pull the trigger. I think Clay will end up having a solid season on a below average NL team. I can see him going 14-9 with a 3.80 ERA on San Diego or Florida. He's always had the talent I feel like with 0 eyes on him he'll perform.
As for the rotation itself I'm conflicted. We obviously want to get Porcello, Price, and Sale the ball every fifth day, so though I love the theory of the 6 man rotation, it's not going to happen. I would end up putting Pomerantz in the pen because his velocity and versatility would suit us well there. I feel that in the drama of the end of last season we forget that at midseason Steven Wright was a CY Young candidate. Either way the Sox are winning 100 this year.
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Post by voiceofreason on Dec 9, 2016 12:57:51 GMT -5
I just don't see DD trading Pomeranz. I know you guys want some prospects back, but he's not the guy that's going to do it. Not only do we have a great top 3, but our 4\5 is ERod and Pomeranz is awesome. Those two could easily be the best 4\5 in the league. Most likely Wright is our #6 and we trade Buchholz. If Owens can just get back to throwing like he used too I expect a big year. Whatever they changed to try and improve his control destroyed his season. It made him worse. Even when he's wild in the past he was still looking like a good 4\5 at worst. I have serious questions about Johnson, but you never now. He does have the upside. Agreed, DD doesn't want to deal Pomeranz for all the reasons you mention. Plus the fact he doesn't want to trade him away for a lot less than it took to get him Espinoza. That would look bad, giving up a prospect like AE, having the guy under perform and then trading him for lesser prospects. Not going to happen. I am still hopeful for Owens to become a solid starter, most likely with another team but he should bring back some talent in a trade.
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Post by soxpatsceltics on Dec 9, 2016 14:18:27 GMT -5
Does E-Rod to the Rockies straight up for Brendan Rodgers make too much sense?
The Rockies are in a 3 year window until Arenado and most of their core is a FA and Rodgers doesn't fit that timeline and is blocked by Story. 5 years of control for E-Rod on a rookie contract is exactly what the Rockies need.
For the Red Sox, Rodgers replenishes the farm a bit and also hedges against Bogaerts wanting too much money in FA.
In this scenario, the rotation is Sale, Price, Porcello, Pomeranz, Buchholz, with Wright out of the pen. Halfway through the year in July or so, the Sox trade Buch to a team to get under the luxury tax and slide Wright back into the rotation. Wright's long man spot gets filled by either Owens or Johnson (or Haley if he is returned), whoever impresses more.
In my opinion, that's the best way to maximize value. E-Rod's trade value is massive and in this brutally awful SP market, it's likely the highest it will ever be. He probably has more TV than Pomeranz, Wright, and Buchholz combined. However, he's a volatile pitcher and there's a significant non-zero chance he flames out like Doubront does. Career 4.69 FIP at home, constant arm slot, mechanical and pitch tipping issues, ultimate ceiling of only a #3, I'd try to sell high.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 9, 2016 14:35:31 GMT -5
The Red Sox need Erod long term and he's very valuable in the short term. If they believe in him being a top 2/3 in the rotation then I wouldn't trade him.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 9, 2016 14:55:38 GMT -5
Maybe, just maybe, the Sox knew that Drew Pomeranz has the 4th highest FB spin rate in baseball. It might not be important though because the three ahead of him aren't very good, Verlander, Scherzer and Bundy.
I'm guessing Pomeranz had the Bannister seal of approval.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 9, 2016 15:21:55 GMT -5
DD doesn't have a track record of trading good major league players for Prospects! He deals prospects for good major league players, that's what he does. He'll also trade good major league players for other good major league players like Fielder for Kinsler.
I know you guys want some prospects back, but you'll need to wait for the draft and international signing period! Only way DD is trading good major league players for prospects is if we are not in playoff contenders at deadline. I don't think anyone wants that to happen.
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Post by Coreno on Dec 9, 2016 15:34:49 GMT -5
If they decide to spread out the top of the rotation, I'm taking credit for the idea, because when I used to play MVP05, I would order my rotation: Ace, 4, 3, 2, 5, for some reason.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Dec 9, 2016 16:57:07 GMT -5
DD doesn't have a track record of trading good major league players for Prospects! He deals prospects for good major league players, that's what he does. He'll also trade good major league players for other good major league players like Fielder for Kinsler. I know you guys want some prospects back, but you'll need to wait for the draft and international signing period! Only way DD is trading good major league players for prospects is if we are not in playoff contenders at deadline. I don't think anyone wants that to happen. Respectfully disagree. In his last year at Detroit, DD traded away veterans and got back numerous prospects, one of whom was just named the AL rookie of the year. Two others prospects he traded for have already started for the Tigers and are being looked upon in Detroit as cornerstones of the Tigers rotation for years. I also seem to remember that when he was the GM at Florida he was forced by ownership to trade off their major league players for prospects and did well with the prospects he got in those trades as well, but am too lazy to look up the details.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 9, 2016 20:53:59 GMT -5
DD doesn't have a track record of trading good major league players for Prospects! He deals prospects for good major league players, that's what he does. He'll also trade good major league players for other good major league players like Fielder for Kinsler. I know you guys want some prospects back, but you'll need to wait for the draft and international signing period! Only way DD is trading good major league players for prospects is if we are not in playoff contenders at deadline. I don't think anyone wants that to happen. Respectfully disagree. In his last year at Detroit, DD traded away veterans and got back numerous prospects, one of whom was just named the AL rookie of the year. Two others prospects he traded for have already started for the Tigers and are being looked upon in Detroit as cornerstones of the Tigers rotation for years. I also seem to remember that when he was the GM at Florida he was forced by ownership to trade off their major league players for prospects and did well with the prospects he got in those trades as well, but am too lazy to look up the details. Please stop confusing the issue with the facts.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 9, 2016 21:29:46 GMT -5
DD doesn't have a track record of trading good major league players for Prospects! He deals prospects for good major league players, that's what he does. He'll also trade good major league players for other good major league players like Fielder for Kinsler. I know you guys want some prospects back, but you'll need to wait for the draft and international signing period! Only way DD is trading good major league players for prospects is if we are not in playoff contenders at deadline. I don't think anyone wants that to happen. Respectfully disagree. In his last year at Detroit, DD traded away veterans and got back numerous prospects, one of whom was just named the AL rookie of the year. Two others prospects he traded for have already started for the Tigers and are being looked upon in Detroit as cornerstones of the Tigers rotation for years. I also seem to remember that when he was the GM at Florida he was forced by ownership to trade off their major league players for prospects and did well with the prospects he got in those trades as well, but am too lazy to look up the details. Did you miss the part about only if we're not playoff contenders at deadline? They were out of race in Detroit and in Florida he was ordered to clear almost all payroll and had to make those trades! DD orders from ownership is to win. Show me a bunch of trades were he traded major league players for prospects while he was trying to win and make playoffs. They haven't happend.
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Post by soxjim on Dec 9, 2016 23:32:02 GMT -5
DD doesn't have a track record of trading good major league players for Prospects! He deals prospects for good major league players, that's what he does. He'll also trade good major league players for other good major league players like Fielder for Kinsler. I know you guys want some prospects back, but you'll need to wait for the draft and international signing period! Only way DD is trading good major league players for prospects is if we are not in playoff contenders at deadline. I don't think anyone wants that to happen. He did get Michael Fulmer.
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Post by soxjim on Dec 9, 2016 23:36:08 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree. In his last year at Detroit, DD traded away veterans and got back numerous prospects, one of whom was just named the AL rookie of the year. Two others prospects he traded for have already started for the Tigers and are being looked upon in Detroit as cornerstones of the Tigers rotation for years. I also seem to remember that when he was the GM at Florida he was forced by ownership to trade off their major league players for prospects and did well with the prospects he got in those trades as well, but am too lazy to look up the details. Did you miss the part about only if we're not playoff contenders at deadline? They were out of race in Detroit and in Florida he was ordered to clear almost all payroll and had to make those trades! DD orders from ownership is to win. Show me a bunch of trades were he traded major league players for prospects while he was trying to win and make playoffs. They haven't happend. I did miss it.
But imo that's such a minor point. I think you're reaching with it.
There may never have been a need /over-abundancy of sp like what he has for this year.
I won't get into a big argument on this but I think it's a reach to draw any conclusion from your point.
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Post by ryantoworkman on Dec 9, 2016 23:57:50 GMT -5
Find a taker for Buch. Wright in the pen as depth because he's Wakefield 2.0 so you can. I don't care about the order for the 5 others, because it doesn't matter. Ditto
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 10, 2016 1:59:49 GMT -5
Did you miss the part about only if we're not playoff contenders at deadline? They were out of race in Detroit and in Florida he was ordered to clear almost all payroll and had to make those trades! DD orders from ownership is to win. Show me a bunch of trades were he traded major league players for prospects while he was trying to win and make playoffs. They haven't happend. I did miss it.
But imo that's such a minor point. I think you're reaching with it.
There may never have been a need /over-abundancy of sp like what he has for this year.
I won't get into a big argument on this but I think it's a reach to draw any conclusion from your point.
How is it a minor point? They call him trader Dave and while in Detroit competing he never made trades like people are hoping for. I bring this up because I've heard I hope Pomeranz, Kimbrel and ERod pitch well next year, so we can flip them at deadline and recoup prospects from a ton of people. Dave's not doing that if we're playing well and have a chance to get to playoffs. Literally the one trade he made like that while in Detroit was when they were out of contention and the guy he traded was a to be free agent. The Fulmer trade was a great one, but do you really think he makes that trade if his team was leading division or held a wild card spot or even close to one? He's going to trade a starter this off-season, he almost has to and 95% chance it's Buchholz's because of his salary.
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Post by tookme55 on Dec 10, 2016 2:38:01 GMT -5
No way DD trades Pomeranz. We traded away one of our top pitching prospects to acquire him. He also came with couple of years of team control. He certainly will be paid less than that Clay's $13M in 2017.
It's human nature for new executive to put his mark on his new employer. Otherwise, why did you get the job in first place?
DD owns Pomeranz trade. Clay B is not his guy. He picked up the option only as insurance. He's not so stupid as to open himself up for criticism for trading away Pomeranz. Ain't happening.
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Post by rjp313jr on Dec 10, 2016 8:42:39 GMT -5
The issue with these conversations is very few situations are the same. Besides being a small market, when does a team who's in contention trade major league players for prospects? Even then they usually aren't, they trade for younger cheaper major league ready players who fit into their payroll structure.
You can look at the Red Sox current situation like one of a small market team as they are up against a budget line and have some excess. However, their roster is deeper with very few if any room on the MLB roster so it create the potential unique situation where a big market team trades a veteran for payroll relief and prospects.
DD has probably never been in this exact position before so we can't be sure how he handles it. The type of general speak going on is how we get false statements that then become a "yea but..." excuse after something different happens.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 10, 2016 10:46:34 GMT -5
I did miss it.
But imo that's such a minor point. I think you're reaching with it.
There may never have been a need /over-abundancy of sp like what he has for this year.
I won't get into a big argument on this but I think it's a reach to draw any conclusion from your point.
How is it a minor point? They call him trader Dave and while in Detroit competing he never made trades like people are hoping for. I bring this up because I've heard I hope Pomeranz, Kimbrel and ERod pitch well next year, so we can flip them at deadline and recoup prospects from a ton of people. Dave's not doing that if we're playing well and have a chance to get to playoffs. Literally the one trade he made like that while in Detroit was when they were out of contention and the guy he traded was a to be free agent. The Fulmer trade was a great one, but do you really think he makes that trade if his team was leading division or held a wild card spot or even close to one? He's going to trade a starter this off-season, he almost has to and 95% chance it's Buchholz's because of his salary. I have to ask - how many GMs trade veteran talent (or core players) when they're trying to compete? Usually you trade kids for veteran talent when you're trying to win. I don't think Dombrowski is unique in that aspect. As others pointed out he did a good job acquiring young talent when Detroit had hit the end of their window. He turned Cespedes into Fulmer who won the Rookie of the Year Award and he turned Price into a couple of pitchers, one of which, Norris, I believe will be a good pitcher. And yeah, he did trade for prospects when the Marlins wanted him to disassemble his World Series championship team and it laid the groundwork for their next championship team.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Dec 10, 2016 11:27:49 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree. In his last year at Detroit, DD traded away veterans and got back numerous prospects, one of whom was just named the AL rookie of the year. Two others prospects he traded for have already started for the Tigers and are being looked upon in Detroit as cornerstones of the Tigers rotation for years. I also seem to remember that when he was the GM at Florida he was forced by ownership to trade off their major league players for prospects and did well with the prospects he got in those trades as well, but am too lazy to look up the details. Did you miss the part about only if we're not playoff contenders at deadline? They were out of race in Detroit and in Florida he was ordered to clear almost all payroll and had to make those trades! DD orders from ownership is to win. Show me a bunch of trades were he traded major league players for prospects while he was trying to win and make playoffs. They haven't happend. Respectfully disagree - again. You said, DD doesn't have a track record of trading good major league players for Prospects! He deals prospects for good major league players, that's what he does. He'll also trade good major league players for other good major league players like Fielder for Kinsler.
But he does have a track record of trading good major league players for prospects - and in fact his record for doing so is a good one - which gives me some hope. You also said: They were out of race in Detroit and in Florida he was ordered to clear almost all payroll and had to make those trades! That statement is probably true about Florida but I live in the Detroit area and I distinctly recall that the Tigers were not out of wild card contention (they were behind but not out of it) when DD traded good major league players for prospects. In fact, there was alot of discussion in the papers as to whether the Tigers would be buyers or sellers that year. There was incentive to be buyers again because their owner is so old and they want to win a World Series for him before he goes toes up. The determining factor that led them to be sellers seemed to be their farm system was so weak (due to DD's trades of prospects over the prior several years trying to win one for the owner) that they did not have any prospects that would bring them the return they thought they needed to win the wild card or division. So they became sellers. Right now, there is incentive for the Red Sox to be sellers of 1 starting pitcher. They have 7 starters and can only use 5 at a time, there are significant benefits in getting under the salary cap for this coming year and trading a starter with a multi million dollar salary would allow them to do that, and trying to restock the farm system somewhat after all the prospects they have sold off would seem to be a way to avoid what happened in Detroit. I would be very surprised if they do not trade either Buchholz or Pomeranz. My preference would be to trade Pomeranz and maybe Abad as I think trading him would bring a greater return,it would help them get under the cap, and because they still would have 3 left-handed starting pitchers for the next few years even if they trade him.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 10, 2016 14:31:55 GMT -5
Did you miss the part about only if we're not playoff contenders at deadline? They were out of race in Detroit and in Florida he was ordered to clear almost all payroll and had to make those trades! DD orders from ownership is to win. Show me a bunch of trades were he traded major league players for prospects while he was trying to win and make playoffs. They haven't happend. Respectfully disagree - again. You said, DD doesn't have a track record of trading good major league players for Prospects! He deals prospects for good major league players, that's what he does. He'll also trade good major league players for other good major league players like Fielder for Kinsler.
But he does have a track record of trading good major league players for prospects - and in fact his record for doing so is a good one - which gives me some hope. You also said: They were out of race in Detroit and in Florida he was ordered to clear almost all payroll and had to make those trades! That statement is probably true about Florida but I live in the Detroit area and I distinctly recall that the Tigers were not out of wild card contention (they were behind but not out of it) when DD traded good major league players for prospects. In fact, there was alot of discussion in the papers as to whether the Tigers would be buyers or sellers that year. There was incentive to be buyers again because their owner is so old and they want to win a World Series for him before he goes toes up. The determining factor that led them to be sellers seemed to be their farm system was so weak (due to DD's trades of prospects over the prior several years trying to win one for the owner) that they did not have any prospects that would bring them the return they thought they needed to win the wild card or division. So they became sellers. Right now, there is incentive for the Red Sox to be sellers of 1 starting pitcher. They have 7 starters and can only use 5 at a time, there are significant benefits in getting under the salary cap for this coming year and trading a starter with a multi million dollar salary would allow them to do that, and trying to restock the farm system somewhat after all the prospects they have sold off would seem to be a way to avoid what happened in Detroit. I would be very surprised if they do not trade either Buchholz or Pomeranz. My preference would be to trade Pomeranz and maybe Abad as I think trading him would bring a greater return,it would help them get under the cap, and because they still would have 3 left-handed starting pitchers for the next few years even if they trade him. If you read my posts and you did, you know I also said unless they our out of playoff contention! Funny you leave that out like I never said it. I don't care what you or any writer thought, Detroit was out of playoff contention. On Aug 4th when DD was released right after making those trades Detroit was 60-69. To tie Houston they would have had to go 26-7 and to beat them 27-6. The team that just went 11-16 in July. I don't care if they weren't mathematically eliminated, they were out of playoff contention. They finished year with second worst record in AL. I'd love to see you try and prove they were in playoff contention given the facts! Detroit sold because they were out of playoff contention and they weren't going to resign there two players that were going to be free agents. They got a better return at deadline, than from comp picks. Like i've now said many times DD will trade a pitcher now, he almost has to. He has limited amount of roster spots and needs to free up money to have flexibility during the year. That pitcher is most likely Buchholz, like 95% chance. Buchholz clears the most money and only has one year of team control. I will never say a trade won't happen, but DD trading Pomeranz and Abad this offseason is most likely not happening. Those are his guys that he likes and just traded for. The fact he gave Abad a contract after last year is telling. When DD likes a player he believes in them even if they didn't play as well as he thought they would.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 10, 2016 15:07:30 GMT -5
How is it a minor point? They call him trader Dave and while in Detroit competing he never made trades like people are hoping for. I bring this up because I've heard I hope Pomeranz, Kimbrel and ERod pitch well next year, so we can flip them at deadline and recoup prospects from a ton of people. Dave's not doing that if we're playing well and have a chance to get to playoffs. Literally the one trade he made like that while in Detroit was when they were out of contention and the guy he traded was a to be free agent. The Fulmer trade was a great one, but do you really think he makes that trade if his team was leading division or held a wild card spot or even close to one? He's going to trade a starter this off-season, he almost has to and 95% chance it's Buchholz's because of his salary. I have to ask - how many GMs trade veteran talent (or core players) when they're trying to compete? Usually you trade kids for veteran talent when you're trying to win. I don't think Dombrowski is unique in that aspect. As others pointed out he did a good job acquiring young talent when Detroit had hit the end of their window. He turned Cespedes into Fulmer who won the Rookie of the Year Award and he turned Price into a couple of pitchers, one of which, Norris, I believe will be a good pitcher. And yeah, he did trade for prospects when the Marlins wanted him to disassemble his World Series championship team and it laid the groundwork for their next championship team. Not many and that's part of the point. In my opinion DD is about the least likely to do it. The two big trades that stand out for me is the White Sox gutting a contending team what 10-15 years ago at deadline and the Rays trading Price while in contention in 2014. If Theo was our GM I could see him making a trade like a lot of people want . Theo values the farm system in a way DD doesn't. Theo is looking 5-6 years down the line, DD seems to focus more on the next 2-3 years. I could certainly see Theo trading Pomeranz at deadline, if Wright is our 6th man and pitching well. I think Theo would way the short term risk and downgrade compared to future value if we got a big offer and might pull the trigger. I just don't see DD doing that.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 10, 2016 18:15:11 GMT -5
Well if DD wanted the ability to make a trade at the deadline, he should trade a starter for prospects now so there is something to trade other than Devers and Groome. There don't seem to be any trades to improve the team at this point in time, but later in the season there will obviously be some need that isn't there now.
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