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Post by Canseco on Feb 22, 2017 12:55:22 GMT -5
How about counting any catcher's visit beyond the first one (per inning) as a mound visit? Jorge Posada's seemingly endless trips out to the mound used to make me want to punch things.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Feb 28, 2017 18:24:20 GMT -5
Early returns on Manfred are that he's a complete and utter disaster. The games flow so much better with pitchers who work quickly, so adding the pitching clock is such a no-brainer it makes you wonder if the people running this league have brains. On top of that, make it so managers really only have two challenges. Aside from that, let baseball be baseball. Adding the pitching clock in the minors seems like it has helped pitchers form habits that they retain once they get to the majors. Baseball players are creatures of habit so as long as they're being forced into a routine in the minors theoretically it should translate to the majors. Unless of course, this proves to only have nominal impact to the speed of the game, what which point I say, "bring in the clock".
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Feb 28, 2017 18:26:34 GMT -5
How about counting any catcher's visit beyond the first one (per inning) as a mound visit? Jorge Posada's seemingly endless trips out to the mound used to make me want to punch things. I think it's stupid that manager only gets a limited number of visits, but they can send out the pitching coach and catcher as often as they want. Pitching coach and catcher should be allowed only 1 mound visit per batter and maybe add a total of 2 mound visits total for each.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 28, 2017 19:17:03 GMT -5
How about counting any catcher's visit beyond the first one (per inning) as a mound visit? Jorge Posada's seemingly endless trips out to the mound used to make me want to punch things. I think it's stupid that manager only gets a limited number of visits, but they can send out the pitching coach and catcher as often as they want. Pitching coach and catcher should be allowed only 1 mound visit per batter and maybe add a total of 2 mound visits total for each. Pitching coach visits do count as mound visits - it's anyone coming out of the dugout (not injury-related). It'd be great if catcher visits were also limited, but the problem is that it's a lot harder to define what a mound visit is when it's done by a player on the field. Does it count if the catcher steps in front of the plate to give signals? Does only the catcher count or any player? Does the visit have to last a certain amount of time? It's just a lot easier to define a mound visit when you limit it to someone coming out of the dugout. To me, the fix for catcher visits is to direct umpires to be stricter in limiting the amount of time a catcher can spend at the mound. I'm trying to remember from when I was umpiring, but I think at some point - which would never actually be reached, but theoretically at least - the ump can start calling balls.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Feb 28, 2017 20:29:58 GMT -5
I think it's stupid that manager only gets a limited number of visits, but they can send out the pitching coach and catcher as often as they want. Pitching coach and catcher should be allowed only 1 mound visit per batter and maybe add a total of 2 mound visits total for each. Pitching coach visits do count as mound visits - it's anyone coming out of the dugout (not injury-related). It'd be great if catcher visits were also limited, but the problem is that it's a lot harder to define what a mound visit is when it's done by a player on the field. Does it count if the catcher steps in front of the plate to give signals? Does only the catcher count or any player? Does the visit have to last a certain amount of time? It's just a lot easier to define a mound visit when you limit it to someone coming out of the dugout. To me, the fix for catcher visits is to direct umpires to be stricter in limiting the amount of time a catcher can spend at the mound. I'm trying to remember from when I was umpiring, but I think at some point - which would never actually be reached, but theoretically at least - the ump can start calling balls. Oh, then I stand corrected. I thought pitching coaches could go out an infinite number of times and that's why you don't normally see the manager because on the second mound visit, the manager is forced to pull the pitcher? I guess you could limit it to players on the field as well and to start calling balls once they pass that threshold.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 1, 2017 1:24:19 GMT -5
Pitching coach visits do count as mound visits - it's anyone coming out of the dugout (not injury-related). It'd be great if catcher visits were also limited, but the problem is that it's a lot harder to define what a mound visit is when it's done by a player on the field. Does it count if the catcher steps in front of the plate to give signals? Does only the catcher count or any player? Does the visit have to last a certain amount of time? It's just a lot easier to define a mound visit when you limit it to someone coming out of the dugout. To me, the fix for catcher visits is to direct umpires to be stricter in limiting the amount of time a catcher can spend at the mound. I'm trying to remember from when I was umpiring, but I think at some point - which would never actually be reached, but theoretically at least - the ump can start calling balls. Oh, then I stand corrected. I thought pitching coaches could go out an infinite number of times and that's why you don't normally see the manager because on the second mound visit, the manager is forced to pull the pitcher? I guess you could limit it to players on the field as well and to start calling balls once they pass that threshold. It seems like the usual scenario is for the pitching coach to go out when they want to discuss pitching and the manager to go out when they want to change pitchers.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 1, 2017 8:41:05 GMT -5
There used to be a rule where only 2 infielders could visit the mound when the manager or pitching coach came out. What happened to that? Not that that would make the game faster or anything...
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Post by James Dunne on Mar 1, 2017 8:57:40 GMT -5
There used to be a rule where only 2 infielders could visit the mound when the manager or pitching coach came out. What happened to that? Not that that would make the game faster or anything... They would always get around that rule by having the other infielders just walk up to, but not onto, the pitchers mound. And if I recall, wasn't an American League-only rule. If so I'm guessing it went out around the time of Interleague play.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 1, 2017 10:25:41 GMT -5
Pitching coach visits do count as mound visits - it's anyone coming out of the dugout (not injury-related). It'd be great if catcher visits were also limited, but the problem is that it's a lot harder to define what a mound visit is when it's done by a player on the field. Does it count if the catcher steps in front of the plate to give signals? Does only the catcher count or any player? Does the visit have to last a certain amount of time? It's just a lot easier to define a mound visit when you limit it to someone coming out of the dugout. To me, the fix for catcher visits is to direct umpires to be stricter in limiting the amount of time a catcher can spend at the mound. I'm trying to remember from when I was umpiring, but I think at some point - which would never actually be reached, but theoretically at least - the ump can start calling balls. Oh, then I stand corrected. I thought pitching coaches could go out an infinite number of times and that's why you don't normally see the manager because on the second mound visit, the manager is forced to pull the pitcher? I guess you could limit it to players on the field as well and to start calling balls once they pass that threshold. C'mon, you know the manager doesn't have to pull the pitcher. For example!
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Mar 1, 2017 14:19:53 GMT -5
Oh, then I stand corrected. I thought pitching coaches could go out an infinite number of times and that's why you don't normally see the manager because on the second mound visit, the manager is forced to pull the pitcher? I guess you could limit it to players on the field as well and to start calling balls once they pass that threshold. C'mon, you know the manager doesn't have to pull the pitcher. For example! That's an awful memory This I actually did know!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 2, 2017 6:32:08 GMT -5
Oh, then I stand corrected. I thought pitching coaches could go out an infinite number of times and that's why you don't normally see the manager because on the second mound visit, the manager is forced to pull the pitcher? I guess you could limit it to players on the field as well and to start calling balls once they pass that threshold. C'mon, you know the manager doesn't have to pull the pitcher. For example! Thanks for reminding me on my one bad Pedro memory. It still ticks me off to this day. Even with all the championships. Even Farrell would of been ahead of Grady Little on that call, and he's ahead of nothing. There should be a rule on here that anyone mentioning 2003 should stop posting for a week at least. Lol it's just plain dirty, like hitting someone below the belt. This might be your message board Chris but you got to go. ;-)
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