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Post by fan72 on Mar 30, 2017 18:44:16 GMT -5
He was my "breakout" sleeper a couple years back. Does that count? Maybe not. Love the mid-90s gas and improved breaking stuff, though. I am shocked that he is still just 21 after being drafted in 2012 draft. I would have never thought he had a chance to make team out of spring training. He's actually 22, turns 23 in August.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 30, 2017 18:53:15 GMT -5
I am shocked that he is still just 21 after being drafted in 2012 draft. I would have never thought he had a chance to make team out of spring training. He's actually 22, turns 23 in August. www.soxprospects.com/players/callahan-jamie.htmWas just going off that, says 21. They must not have updated it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 30, 2017 20:50:24 GMT -5
JBJ isn't good...the bullpen lacks depth....25th man roster battle.....all we are missing is throwing Farrell under the bus. Well, there will be a time for that, and right quick, I might add. Let's get this damn show on the road. Game threads...please. Best comment of the whole thread. Even with the profanity.
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Post by telson13 on Mar 30, 2017 22:16:38 GMT -5
He was my "breakout" sleeper a couple years back. Does that count? Maybe not. Love the mid-90s gas and improved breaking stuff, though. I am shocked that he is still just 21 after being drafted in 2012 draft. I would have never thought he had a chance to make team out of spring training. Yeah, he was only 17 when they took him. I thought he'd come up with a third pitch, but then he just kinda stagnated with two. Until now...though he had a solid AFL. He's the kind of power arm I'd like to see them develop more of as relief options, though. With reliever overvaluation as it is, quality back-end bullpen arms will both save big $/prospect capital, and maybe allow for some trades to replenish the minor league system.
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Post by telson13 on Mar 30, 2017 22:22:22 GMT -5
He was my "breakout" sleeper a couple years back. Does that count?Maybe not. Love the mid-90s gas and improved breaking stuff, though. Well its the closest thing anyone has presented, so I'll give you credit for that. Still though, he's been pretty mediocre statistically since the sleeper pick. Yeah, he was awful for a half-year after I made it. I'd almost given up but he was OK towards the end of '15, and he was OK last year. He had a nice second AFL, though, which gave me some hope. Maybe he's figured something out mechanically...command was always an issue.
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Post by thursty on Mar 30, 2017 22:43:25 GMT -5
So I've been playing around with Statcast's new catch probability data, which is totally objective (no human input at all). The table below contains a few select players of interest; Catches +/- measures the total # of catches a fielder made relative to what an average outfielder would have made (it's a counting stat) BH(Ballhawk)AA(Above average) normalizes the data to opportunities available The data only considers the basic act of catching flyballs, i.e. no consideration of throwing ability. It's for 2016 Player | Catches +/- | BHAA | Hamilton | 18.6 | 126+ | Kiermaier | 13.2 | 121+ | Buxton | 10.3 | 116+ | Betts | 15.3 | 115+ | Eaton | 16.8 | 114+ | Heyward | 13.9 | 119+ | Pillar | 10.8 | 113+ | Bradley | 6.5 | 107+ | Ellsbury | 2.8
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Post by telluricrook on Mar 31, 2017 0:25:31 GMT -5
Any late round fantasy baseball sleepers?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 31, 2017 1:12:56 GMT -5
I remember JBJ having a weird flukey year with the glove last year. He wasn't as good in prior years. I don't expect that to continue.
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Post by fan72 on Mar 31, 2017 5:13:08 GMT -5
I remember JBJ having a weird flukey year with the glove last year. He wasn't as good in prior years. I don't expect that to continue. Did you mean to say he was better in prior years, because last year was his down year defensively. I expect him to have a better defensive year this year.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 31, 2017 5:35:39 GMT -5
I remember JBJ having a weird flukey year with the glove last year. He wasn't as good in prior years. I don't expect that to continue. Did you mean to say he was better in prior years, because last year was his down year defensively. I expect him to have a better defensive year this year. Yeah that's what I meant. He had a strange year last year with the glove. I expect him to be right with the best in the league this year.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 31, 2017 8:41:07 GMT -5
Yeah Otani is still the guy I want first too but if Sale is willing to take less to stay, then why not? I'm not sure if he's willing to sign for less after his last deal however but he seems like a guy who's willing to work with a team in order to win. I keep going back and forth on Xander. I'm not sure he'll stick at short into his first real contract for very long. I agree on Porcello, either trade him or let him walk with a QO attached and get some low level picks for him. Why not? Well, because "less to stay" is a range. Based on Kershaw, Price, and Grienke, Sale is a $32-35M AAV player right now. So even if he took, say, 8/$240M I'm not that big a fan. But a 3-4 year extension at that rate...maybe. I think letting Porcello walk would be a huge mistake. Bite the bullet and trade him or try to extend him for 2-3 years at $25M AAV. But letting any of these guys walk is a tremendous waste of resources. We're going to be at the point where we either A) re-sign these pitchers at market rate B) delve into free agency to replace them C) trade them to try to get some pieces to replace them D) not replace them and pray for prospects to develop I only see Groome as a real option in the future if he's not traded which I kind of expect since there is almost nothing left to trade. We've got a great few years coming up, but it will be very ugly after that. I don't see any way around it without some pretty crazy luck in developing prospects.
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Post by telson13 on Mar 31, 2017 11:35:52 GMT -5
Why not? Well, because "less to stay" is a range. Based on Kershaw, Price, and Grienke, Sale is a $32-35M AAV player right now. So even if he took, say, 8/$240M I'm not that big a fan. But a 3-4 year extension at that rate...maybe. I think letting Porcello walk would be a huge mistake. Bite the bullet and trade him or try to extend him for 2-3 years at $25M AAV. But letting any of these guys walk is a tremendous waste of resources. We're going to be at the point where we either A) re-sign these pitchers at market rate B) delve into free agency to replace them C) trade them to try to get some pieces to replace them D) not replace them and pray for prospects to develop I only see Groome as a real option in the future if he's not traded which I kind of expect since there is almost nothing left to trade. We've got a great few years coming up, but it will be very ugly after that. I don't see any way around it without some pretty crazy luck in developing prospects. I'm convinced that the best chance that they have at that "luck" is their cadre of relief prospects (Cosart, Ysla, Callahan, Martin, Jerez, etc.) produces at least one late-inning option and another two or three fungible relievers, along with positive development of Barnes and Kelly. Then, DD has an epiphany (and an excess) and reverses his Kimbrel/Thornburg trades. I don't think the chances are good, but they're better than stumbling into a shocker of an IFA period or draft.
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Post by glassox on Mar 31, 2017 20:21:26 GMT -5
I have a good feeling about this team. Even with all the current health issues they face, i think they will be a very solid squad. I think their pitching will hold up. I feel the offense will be top notch and a strong defense.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 1, 2017 4:32:49 GMT -5
Desmond Jennings was released. He'd be a great depth guy to acquire for AAA, their roster might be getting pretty full though. I just don't like the idea of Junior Lake being this team's best depth in AAA outside of Selsky.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Apr 1, 2017 15:22:07 GMT -5
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 1, 2017 17:03:21 GMT -5
My man Rick, whom I trashed when he was not pitching well. Typical boorish fan behavior. link
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 2, 2017 12:04:50 GMT -5
Quick someone start the game thread....the members are restless. We need options, here.
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Post by telson13 on Apr 2, 2017 14:18:21 GMT -5
Quick someone start the game thread....the members are restless. We need options, here. Well, Tanaka got smoked, and Tavares returned by the O's, which is a nice lil' bit of OF depth. Everything's coming up Milhouse! Who says Taylor gets his first MLB win tomorrow?!
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 2, 2017 14:34:36 GMT -5
Quick someone start the game thread....the members are restless. We need options, here. Well, Tanaka got smoked, and Tavares returned by the O's, which is a nice lil' bit of OF depth. Everything's coming up Milhouse! Who says Taylor gets his first MLB win tomorrow?! That will be a nice moment for him but a little disappointing for Porcello after he throws 10 perfect innings only to leave with the game still tied at 0-0.
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Post by telson13 on Apr 2, 2017 14:37:12 GMT -5
Desmond Jennings was released. He'd be a great depth guy to acquire for AAA, their roster might be getting pretty full though. I just don't like the idea of Junior Lake being this team's best depth in AAA outside of Selsky. I'm not sure how much he has left in the tank, but he's only 30. He might be useful as platoon depth. Certainly, there's talent there.
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Post by telson13 on Apr 2, 2017 14:38:45 GMT -5
Well, Tanaka got smoked, and Tavares returned by the O's, which is a nice lil' bit of OF depth. Everything's coming up Milhouse! Who says Taylor gets his first MLB win tomorrow?! That will be a nice moment for him but a little disappointing for Porcello after he throws 10 perfect innings only to leave with the game still tied at 0-0. Hahaha! No faith in the O? Benny bomb to seal it?
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 2, 2017 14:45:21 GMT -5
Desmond Jennings was released. He'd be a great depth guy to acquire for AAA, their roster might be getting pretty full though. I just don't like the idea of Junior Lake being this team's best depth in AAA outside of Selsky. I'm not sure how much he has left in the tank, but he's only 30. He might be useful as platoon depth. Certainly, there's talent there. He'd be a great platoon with Carl Crawford in AA.
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Post by jimoh on Apr 2, 2017 14:56:32 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Apr 2, 2017 21:29:31 GMT -5
I'm not sure how much he has left in the tank, but he's only 30. He might be useful as platoon depth. Certainly, there's talent there. He'd be a great platoon with Carl Crawford in AA. Hahaha! Ouch. He's had a couple of very bad years, but I'm not convinced yet that he's totally done. I think the Sox ought to be stockpiling some experienced, replacement-level-with-upside talent in AAA. They've got serious depth issues at multiple spots...dropping a few hundred thousand here and there to give themselves some disaster-level plans isn't the worst idea. The Jays cut Melvin Upton, he's another option if the cost is *minimal*. Hell, grab all three for a 2008 TB Rays revival! On second thought, Crawford's a bit pricey...and not much of a Boston fan...
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