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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 13, 2017 11:05:38 GMT -5
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Post by klostrophobic on Mar 13, 2017 11:39:00 GMT -5
Wow imagine having the top two, three of the top ten, and seven of the top thirty prospects in baseball and how that could sustain an organization for the next decade.
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Mar 13, 2017 12:30:16 GMT -5
And also think how awesome it would be having Joe Kelly or Robbie Ross as your closer and Clay Buchholz and Henry Owens as your #4-5 starters. This team might be playoff bound without those trades, but not being considered the #1 or #2 team in the AL. I'm all for keeping prospects, but it's not like this team didn't get significantly better after all those deals were made.
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Post by thursty on Mar 13, 2017 13:17:30 GMT -5
Wow imagine having the top two, three of the top ten, and seven of the top thirty prospects in baseball and how that could sustain an organization for the next decade. Although I heartily endorse the sentiment -- that is pretty much the textbook definition of trolling
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Post by thursty on Mar 13, 2017 13:20:23 GMT -5
Oh yes, where would the Red Sox be without Kimbrel and Pomeranz? Easily a 100-loss team
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Post by jmei on Mar 13, 2017 13:34:48 GMT -5
Please refrain from further discussion of past trades on this thread-- there's a separate thread with active discussion on that topic on the first page of the main forums.
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Post by burythehammer on Mar 13, 2017 15:56:14 GMT -5
Those Espionza ratings hurt.
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Post by tookme55 on Mar 13, 2017 16:45:59 GMT -5
I believe Kopech became expendable when we signed Groome who was absolute steal at #12. Lets wait and see how Devers develop. That may negate the loss of Moncada. Margot was blocked, wasn't he?
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Post by jmei on Mar 13, 2017 16:56:11 GMT -5
I believe this is the first major list that had Moncada over Benintendi. Longenhagen discussed it on one of his podcasts in the fall. He praised Moncada's upside and implied that it was enough to sneak him past Benintendi. It's a defensible, albeit apparently unpopular, opinion.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Mar 13, 2017 17:08:08 GMT -5
(edit - never mind)
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Mar 13, 2017 17:15:29 GMT -5
I will try and put a different perspective on this kind of sad news. That is quite an accomplishment for all the folks who put the time in to make this list possible. They should be really proud of their work.
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Post by jmei on Mar 13, 2017 17:54:01 GMT -5
Here's an interesting snippet from Devers' write-up: "Devers’ swing mandates that he catch balls out in front of the plate in order to lift them in the air and utilize his considerable raw power, but his hand-eye coordination and bat speed are so good that, even when he’s making sub-optimal contact, it’s hard and to all fields."
It jives with his minor league batted ball profile (Devers has higher GB rates-- in the ~50% range the last two years) and past scouting reports on his swing (hard contact, but more of a line-drive profile). He's a tremendous prospect either way, but to really tap into his peak power projection, a little more loft in his swing would be nice to see. Something to think about entering the season.
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Post by thursty on Mar 13, 2017 18:25:16 GMT -5
Talking about prospects being blocked is akin to thinking the following: "The $5 in my pocket is blocked by the $10 in my wallet"
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Post by nomar on Mar 13, 2017 19:07:01 GMT -5
Happy for our current and past guys. A lot of great talent and I'm sure some lasting friendships among that group too.
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Post by Smittyw on Mar 13, 2017 19:30:06 GMT -5
I believe Kopech became expendable when we signed Groome who was absolute steal at #12. But wait, I thought Espinoza was expendable because we had Kopech...? Because pitching prospects always work out, and you only need one of them at a time.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Mar 13, 2017 22:45:13 GMT -5
To me the Kopech thing hurt the most. It seems that signing top FA pitchers usually bites us in the behind. I'd prefer to roll the dice with top young talent and hope we get 6 years of studly behavior. Even if it happens only once out of every 4-5 times with stud prospcts the value generated is so great and the cost so low I'd rather go with that approach generally.
I still think Benny is better than Moncada and always will be. When Moncada can hit the curveball and off speed stuff nearly as well maybe we can talk. I think Benny is going to have better pop also. He is so advanced already, driving the ball so well, pitch recognition, ability to handle pressure...etc. The guy was in a crucible at Arkansas and came through with flying colors. What is his weakness? I don't even think it's even that close.
I lose interest when the prospects aren't there. I see what DD is doing but he's killing me.
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Post by tookme55 on Mar 14, 2017 0:54:51 GMT -5
Talking about prospects being blocked is akin to thinking the following: "The $5 in my pocket is blocked by the $10 in my wallet" You draft best players regardless of position. If you end up with a surplus, then you move one to another position OR USE IT IN A TRADE TO ACQUIRE TOP TALENT. Who said being BLOCKED is a bad thing?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Mar 14, 2017 1:04:47 GMT -5
Either way, Margot is the only one of these guys who was even close to blocked.
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Post by thursty on Mar 15, 2017 21:09:10 GMT -5
Moncada hit 2 homers today,including one to LCF that cleared the fence easily (both while hitting LH)
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