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Post by telson13 on Aug 27, 2018 22:54:40 GMT -5
Gotta be excited about what Chavis has done coming back from his suspension. 18 XBH in just over 150 PA, and his batted ball frequencies look pretty consistent with previously. BB and K rates both acceptable, which is nice to see following both the time off and the return to AA, where he was solid but not great last year. I really do hope he was truthful in re: to the PED issue, because if he’s clean right now he still looks like a valuable offensive player. I hope he gets some AFL PAs and maybe even some winter ball. Idk if he gets the Sept call-up, given his postseason exclusion certainty and service time issues, but he seems like a guy who could force the issue early next year if he continues to perform like he has been. I agree that he seems like a great kid, high-energy and confident but not arrogant. I’m really rooting for him, his turnaround last year was a great story.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 27, 2018 23:04:55 GMT -5
Chavis, if there are no option or service time issues, would be an interesting call-up for September.
Against lefties the Sox could DH Pearce and play JDM in the OF while JBJ can hit the bench and they could also sit Moreland and play Chavis at 1b (or DH Chavis and put Pearce at 1b).
The point is they can make both moves to sit JBJ and Moreland against tough lefties in September.
They haven't and currently don't have that option. If they use Pearce they still have to play either Moreland or JBJ against a tough lefty.
Chavis' presence can change that, allow us to get to see what he can do, and also allows the Sox to avoid having to use Sam Travis in that role. I'd rather see Chavis against lefties than Travis.
It's too bad they couldn't use Chavis for the post-season, but at least we can get a glimpse of a guy who could take over 1b at some point next season or at least platoon with Moreland and be ready to take it over in 2020.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 28, 2018 11:23:12 GMT -5
Can't imagine they call Chavis up for such a limited role when he's likely starting 2019 in AAA no matter what barring multiple significant injury issues. But who knows?
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 28, 2018 11:33:42 GMT -5
Can't imagine they call Chavis up for such a limited role when he's likely starting 2019 in AAA no matter what barring multiple significant injury issues. But who knows? Devil's advocate: If he gets five plate appearances in the month, that's five more than he'd have gotten if they didn't call him up, he won't burn an option, and he's getting added to the 40-man anyway. Not totally dissimilar from Moncada in 2016 - I didn't think he was quite ready either, and it didn't really change his 2017 path. As long as they don't, like, name Chavis the starting third baseman and then realize two days later that was an awful idea.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 28, 2018 12:32:53 GMT -5
I'm all for calling Chavis up even if he only gets a few ABs. The only negative is if he catches fire and you can't use him in the playoffs, but thats not a huge negative in my book. Sure he likely starts 2019 in the minors, but will likely be called up next year at some point. So lets get him some experience. He can use the extra work after his shortened season.
I would assume he's going to the Arizona fall league right?
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Post by m1keyboots on Aug 28, 2018 12:33:57 GMT -5
Can't imagine they call Chavis up for such a limited role when he's likely starting 2019 in AAA no matter what barring multiple significant injury issues. But who knows? Devil's advocate: If he gets five plate appearances in the month, that's five more than he'd have gotten if they didn't call him up, he won't burn an option, and he's getting added to the 40-man anyway. Not totally dissimilar from Moncada in 2016 - I didn't think he was quite ready either, and it didn't really change his 2017 path. As long as they don't, like, name Chavis the starting third baseman and then realize two days later that was an awful idea. With the success Chavis having after that 80 game, comparing to what (methinks) happened to Moncadas confidence, idk. I guess if we're just bringing up guys bc we can in September without consequence then cool. Question: can he even play in MLB the same year after a suspension is up, sort of like Cano cannot play in the playoffs?
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 28, 2018 12:41:06 GMT -5
He cannot play in the playoffs due to his suspension.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 28, 2018 12:49:13 GMT -5
I'm all for calling Chavis up even if he only gets a few ABs. The only negative is if he catches fire and you can't use him in the playoffs, but thats not a huge negative in my book. Sure he likely starts 2019 in the minors, but will likely be called up next year at some point. So lets get him some experience. He can use the extra work after his shortened season. I would assume he's going to the Arizona fall league right? That and/or a winter league. He needs the at-bats.
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Post by caseytins on Aug 28, 2018 13:35:51 GMT -5
What's the harm of giving him a few ABs in September if he continues to rake in AAA? Sure he can't be on the playoff roster, but it could be good exposure for him and create some competition. It can also allow the MLB club to rest a few more guys if they need to.
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Post by ramireja on Nov 2, 2018 15:29:15 GMT -5
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Post by jiant2520 on Nov 2, 2018 16:00:21 GMT -5
Read that too. It'd be nice if he could play 2B, just in case Pedey can't come all the way back.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 2, 2018 16:21:02 GMT -5
I imagine he'll be about as good as Steve Pearce at 2B. In fact, I wonder if Chavis will affect the choice to re-sign Pearce at all. I don't think that's likely, but it's possible.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 2, 2018 17:22:08 GMT -5
I imagine he'll be about as good as Steve Pearce at 2B. In fact, I wonder if Chavis will affect the choice to re-sign Pearce at all. I don't think that's likely, but it's possible. Considering that he's missing needed at-bats in the AFL due to injury, Chavis should not affect any plans for the MLB roster.
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Post by jiant2520 on Nov 2, 2018 18:08:01 GMT -5
I want Pearce back, but I admit a week ago I was wondering if Chavis could replace Pearce on the roster.
I guess if he is not playing though, probably not....
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 2, 2018 18:45:45 GMT -5
I'm not expecting anything good at second base with Chavis if he can't even play third base all that well. Maybe LF works out better, but who knows?
He seems like a DH.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Nov 2, 2018 20:08:28 GMT -5
I'm not expecting anything good at second base with Chavis if he can't even play third base all that well. Maybe LF works out better, but who knows? He seems like a DH. If you're going to play one position badly, might as well play three of them badly.
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Post by soxcentral on Nov 2, 2018 20:14:09 GMT -5
I'm not expecting anything good at second base with Chavis if he can't even play third base all that well. Maybe LF works out better, but who knows? He seems like a DH. If you're going to play one position badly, might as well play three of them badly. If Eduardo Nunez were a member of this forum he’d definitely like this post.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Nov 2, 2018 20:27:05 GMT -5
If you're going to play one position badly, might as well play three of them badly. If Eduardo Nunez were a member of this forum he’d definitely like this post. I was thinking a little more of your classic Eric Hinske model.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 2, 2018 20:40:00 GMT -5
I'm not expecting anything good at second base with Chavis if he can't even play third base all that well. Maybe LF works out better, but who knows? He seems like a DH. If you're going to play one position badly, might as well play three of them badly. Exactly, with his bat he'll be crazy valuable if he can play 4 positions. I mean this team just played Devers who had the most errors in the league and Nunez who isn't good defensively.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 2, 2018 20:44:06 GMT -5
If you're going to play one position badly, might as well play three of them badly. Exactly, with his bat he'll be crazy valuable if he can play 4 positions. I mean this team just played Devers who had the most errors in the league and Nunez who isn't good defensively. The Sox were fortunate to get away with that many errors with Nunez at second and Devers at third base to begin the year. I'm more interested in Chavis in LF. Maybe Benintendi can move to RF eventually.
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Post by Addam603 on Nov 2, 2018 21:53:49 GMT -5
Exactly, with his bat he'll be crazy valuable if he can play 4 positions. I mean this team just played Devers who had the most errors in the league and Nunez who isn't good defensively. The Sox were fortunate to get away with that many errors with Nunez at second and Devers at third base to begin the year. I'm more interested in Chavis in LF. Maybe Benintendi can move to RF eventually. And Mookie goes??
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 2, 2018 22:41:08 GMT -5
The Sox were fortunate to get away with that many errors with Nunez at second and Devers at third base to begin the year. I'm more interested in Chavis in LF. Maybe Benintendi can move to RF eventually. And Mookie goes?? CF. JBJ is the one who eventually goes.
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Post by telson13 on Nov 2, 2018 23:16:41 GMT -5
CF. JBJ is the one who eventually goes. If Chavis can be an average-range LF with an above-avg arm and plays avg to soli-avg defense, with a .260/.350/.500 line, I’d probably be OK with that, depending on what it takes to extend JBJ. I really think we all take Jackie’s defense for granted, to an extent. There’s a lot to be said for having three CFs in the OF. OTOH, Chavis at $500K to $1.5M over 3-4 years instead of paying JBJ 3/$45M or 4/$60M if he rediscovers his offensive form of ‘16...probably a good place to save money. It’s going to be tough in 2020 when they need to reset the lux tax. Going to be some really tough choices, and I’m gonna miss some of the guys who leave, especially those from this homegrown core.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 3, 2018 4:15:01 GMT -5
CF. JBJ is the one who eventually goes. If Chavis can be an average-range LF with an above-avg arm and plays avg to soli-avg defense, with a .260/.350/.500 line, I’d probably be OK with that, depending on what it takes to extend JBJ. I really think we all take Jackie’s defense for granted, to an extent. There’s a lot to be said for having three CFs in the OF. OTOH, Chavis at $500K to $1.5M over 3-4 years instead of paying JBJ 3/$45M or 4/$60M if he rediscovers his offensive form of ‘16...probably a good place to save money. It’s going to be tough in 2020 when they need to reset the lux tax. Going to be some really tough choices, and I’m gonna miss some of the guys who leave, especially those from this homegrown core. Wow you'd be OK with a guy that would be what a 4 war player? Says every team in Baseball!
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Post by radiohix on Nov 3, 2018 5:27:19 GMT -5
I can't believe that the JBJ haterz are still alive and want to ship him out of town! It's just mind boggling.
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