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Post by Guidas on Apr 24, 2019 12:47:24 GMT -5
Looks like Sox are employing the Blake Swihart School of coaching with JBJ’s swing (uh, ok, how bout we try this-....).
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Post by dmaineah on May 13, 2019 15:07:11 GMT -5
He's had a total of 114 ABs so far this year. He is 9 for his last 56 with 23 strike outs. It's been long enough. Time for him to find a permanent seat on the bench or (preferably) accept an assignment to AAA. Make the Outfield Chavis, Betts & Beni & play Nunez at 2B & call up Chatham.
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Post by radiohix on May 13, 2019 15:12:49 GMT -5
He's had a total of 114 ABs so far this year. He is 9 for his last 56 with 23 strike outs. It's been long enough. Time for him to find a permanent seat on the bench or (preferably) accept an assignment to AAA. Make the Outfield Chavis, Betts & Beni & play Nunez at 2B & call up Chatham. Man don't you get tired of being wrong all the time?
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Post by jimed14 on May 13, 2019 15:23:08 GMT -5
Yes, let's replace JBJ with Nunez who is far worse at hitting and fielding.
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Post by dmaineah on May 13, 2019 15:33:16 GMT -5
He's had a total of 114 ABs so far this year. He is 9 for his last 56 with 23 strike outs. It's been long enough. Time for him to find a permanent seat on the bench or (preferably) accept an assignment to AAA. Make the Outfield Chavis, Betts & Beni & play Nunez at 2B & call up Chatham. Man don't you get tired of being wrong all the time? Oh I'm SO right here. You just don't want to admit it
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 13, 2019 15:34:28 GMT -5
He's had a total of 114 ABs so far this year. He is 9 for his last 56 with 23 strike outs. It's been long enough. Time for him to find a permanent seat on the bench or (preferably) accept an assignment to AAA. Make the Outfield Chavis, Betts & Beni & play Nunez at 2B & call up Chatham. Please explain why you want to replace JBJ with Nunez. In other words, you can't stand JBJ because you think he is a lousy offensive player, so what does that make Nunez? Nunez doesn't walk, has little power, and is not a good baserunner. Plus his defense is atrocious, so why in the hell would you want to replace JBJ with Nunez of all people? You apparently fixate on batting average and ignore everything else. That's why you always target a .235 hitter who has some pop, some speed, draws his walks, and plays gold glove defense and always has a horrific stretch followed by a stretch where he hits well. Why give it a nuanced look when you can just look at batting average and make your assessment?
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Post by jimed14 on May 13, 2019 15:50:25 GMT -5
Also, who cares about any defense? Put every single player on the field at a position they'd be worse at just to get rid of JBJ. Move Chavis to a position he has never played. Put Benintendi with his Johnny Damon-like arm in RF where he has not played a single inning. And Mookie is better at RF than CF. Nunez might be the worst 2B I've ever seen. But the good news is he has a .454 OPS and has walked once this year! Make all of these decisions at the same time in the middle of the season when they've won 16 of their last 22 games. Even Bobby Valentine, Ralph Houck and Don Zimmer put together couldn't come up with a dumber idea if they tried.
Funniest thing is that JBJ has a higher wRC+ than Nunez this year.
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Post by radiohix on May 13, 2019 16:43:41 GMT -5
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Post by ramireja on May 13, 2019 16:45:00 GMT -5
Man don't you get tired of being wrong all the time? Oh I'm SO right here. You just don't want to admit it Since the time you birthed this thread...JBJ has been worth >4 WAR (either fWAR or bWAR) and thats including his rough start this year. So....just no.
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Post by manfred on May 13, 2019 17:13:46 GMT -5
Also, who cares about any defense? Put every single player on the field at a position they'd be worse at just to get rid of JBJ. Move Chavis to a position he has never played. Put Benintendi with his Johnny Damon-like arm in RF where he has not played a single inning. And Mookie is better at RF than CF. Nunez might be the worst 2B I've ever seen. But the good news is he has a .454 OPS and has walked once this year! Make all of these decisions at the same time in the middle of the season when they've won 16 of their last 22 games. Even Bobby Valentine, Ralph Houck and Don Zimmer put together couldn't come up with a dumber idea if they tried. Funniest thing is that JBJ has a higher wRC+ than Nunez this year. Does Benny have a Johnny Damon arm? I admit I can’t really remember seeing him make any big throws, so I can’t judge. That is a mild bummer. Leftfield in Fenway might be perfect.
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Post by iakovos11 on May 13, 2019 17:18:57 GMT -5
He's had a total of 114 ABs so far this year. He is 9 for his last 56 with 23 strike outs. It's been long enough. Time for him to find a permanent seat on the bench or (preferably) accept an assignment to AAA. Make the Outfield Chavis, Betts & Beni & play Nunez at 2B & call up Chatham. So Chavis to LF even though he's never in the OF before? Seriously?
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Post by patford on May 13, 2019 17:20:35 GMT -5
If you're not going to wait on JBJ then you don't do it right when he is historically going to break out after a long cold spell.
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Post by sarasoxer on May 13, 2019 17:34:41 GMT -5
If there were no shift, he would probably be at .250+. He hits the ball with authority but he can't get it in the air to the pull side....which he inordinately strives to do. Unless he changes something mechanically and/or with swing path, I'm afraid he is stuck.....a good defensive replacement/4th outfielder type. Sadly I believe that his inherent talent far exceeds this.
To me he has a decided uppercut. If he makes contact out in front, he hits the top of the baseball. If he is behind, he hits it square or on the underside. Watch the shifts. The cf is in left center....while the SS is to the right of second...i.e. played decidedly to pull on the ground and to slice in the OF. Those shifts are very dramatic and telling.
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Post by trajanacc on May 14, 2019 7:51:30 GMT -5
Weakening your defense at 2B and at least 2 of 3 outfield positions, so you can get Nunez’s Ruthian bat in the lineup over JBJ? Great idea, sign me up. Let’s also try out Sandy Leon in long relief, he’s got a good arm.
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Post by sarasoxer on May 16, 2019 6:13:58 GMT -5
If mentioned before I apologize, but none other that Luis Tiant has told Bradley how he would pitch to him and get him out "easily"....'I'd bust you inside a couple of times and throw to the outside part. You'd try to pull it and hit a grounder into the shift'....this told to my brother in Wells, Me. where Luis has a home.... Not that we haven't seen this play out, but worth something coming from Luis.
His recommendation to Bradley was to hit to the opposite field and bunt against the shift. He told him "You're not a home run hitter. Your job is to get on base".
When asked JBJ's reaction, Luis shook his head and said Bradley was "stubborn".
I agree with Demainah to the extent that in tight situations, I'd have JBJ bunt runners along. I'd also sit him against tough pitching....a platoon perhaps. That would maximize his contributions offensively until he can arise from the offensive dead. Yeah Martinez in the field on a JBJ platoon takes something away but on balance, I think we'd be better. Plus, it might get JBJ to soul search. He might not be so stubborn if he is otherwise riding the pine.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 16, 2019 7:13:47 GMT -5
Prediction....
Duran will be the Sox playoff starting center fielder.
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Post by sarasoxer on May 16, 2019 8:46:48 GMT -5
That would be a story...
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 16, 2019 9:27:59 GMT -5
Prediction.... Duran will be the Sox playoff starting center fielder. I think that could be true - in 2020 maybe or more likely 2021. Don't see that happening in 2019, although that would certainly be fascinating.
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Post by danr on May 16, 2019 10:18:04 GMT -5
The Sox have eight starting players with OPS above .800. Only Houston has more, nine. The team OPS is 39 points higher than opponents. It seems to me that the Sox can afford to have one hole in the lineup, especially since that player, JBJ, is such an exceptional defender.
It also is fairly likely, given his history, that JBJ will snap out of his slump and hit better than any realistically potential replacement. He may have already started.
Moving Chavis to the outfield and playing Nunez at 2B would weaken the defense at two positions and risks screwing up a young player who is doing exceptionally well in a position he never had played regularly in the past. It would be worse than reckless to move him to a new position.
I think the most interesting question is what are the Sox going to do with Pedroia if he appears healthy enough to play? I suspect Pedroia would only play part-time and Chavis' playing time would be divided between first and second. After two years of not playing and not hitting I don't think it would be fair to expect to see the Pedroia of the past.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 16, 2019 10:33:12 GMT -5
The Sox have eight starting players with OPS above .800. Only Houston has more, nine. The team OPS is 39 points higher than opponents. It seems to me that the Sox can afford to have one hole in the lineup, especially since that player, JBJ, is such an exceptional defender. It also is fairly likely, given his history, that JBJ will snap out of his slump and hit better than any realistically potential replacement. He may have already started. Moving Chavis to the outfield and playing Nunez at 2B would weaken the defense at two positions and risks screwing up a young player who is doing exceptionally well in a position he never had played regularly in the past. It would be worse than reckless to move him to a new position. I think the most interesting question is what are the Sox going to do with Pedroia if he appears healthy enough to play? I suspect Pedroia would only play part-time and Chavis' playing time would be divided between first and second. After two years of not playing and not hitting I don't think it would be fair to expect to see the Pedroia of the past. I think if Pedroia were fairly healthy - and that's assuming that a Pedroia who can play three or four times per week was still an effective player on both offense and defense, something that has a lot of uncertainty to it. But if Pearce doesn't hit you can move Chavis to 1b to spell Moreland or you can move him to 3b to spell Devers. One of those guys can DH if you stick JDM in the OF, move Betts to CF and sit JBJ or give one of the outfielders a rest. Same deal if it's Brock Holt who's getting in the lineup. At this point, I'm not sure who's going to be a more effective player going forward. I would suspect Holt, but he's been dealing with his own injury issues. But whether it's Holt or Pedroia, I don't see anybody really dislodging Chavis from being the regular 2b. What Pedroia does is provide the RH bat (possibly?) that Nunez and Pearce right now aren't providing them that allows JBJ to hit the bench against lefties if need be. And Holt's there if they need some semi-regular playing time should JBJ totally tank long-term offensively. I don't really see that happening. I think we'll get more of what we always get from Bradley. Just wish he hadn't messed around with what was working for him last season. It seems to me his issues aren't lack of skill, but rather mechanical, kind of like what Chris Sale was going through. Just goes to show you there's a thin line between doing something mechanically correct and incorrect that shows up huge in the results. If JBJ continues to struggle offensively, maybe they need to sit him down for about a week and have him work with his hitting coaches to get back last year's swing when he was hitting everything hard, or even spring training when he was nailing everything in sight. I have no idea why he changed things when the season started. At least last night he went the other way with his hit off the wall, so maybe that's a good sign?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 16, 2019 15:31:45 GMT -5
Pedrioa would probably play 2B or DH when LHP is starting. Then he will probably get in another game or 2 on the field at DH or 2B during the week if he can even handle that.
Pedrioa is looking at playing 3 games a week. The Sox can move Chavis around if need be. It's all manageable.
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Post by sibbysisti on May 20, 2019 12:44:51 GMT -5
I prefer to see Nunez and JBJ elsewhere. Nunez is a no brainer. With Pedroia rehabbing for an eventual return, and Lin, Holt and Marco ready, we can easily replace him.
No one can replace Jackie’s defense. But I’m tired of his attaining the”automatic out” status attributed to NL pitchers. He simply cannot hit low outside pitches and doesn’t have the good sense to let them go. I don’t think the team can afford to luxury of keeping him for late inning PR or defense purposes.
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Post by huskies15 on May 20, 2019 13:03:19 GMT -5
He's lost all semblance of rhythm in his swing. Hands, head, lower-half, all of it seems to be pulling in different directions.
Sad to see.
EDIT: guess he fixed himself for that HR today
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Post by mobaz on May 20, 2019 14:04:12 GMT -5
DINGER! Everything is fixed and he is great again. MVP run here we come!
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Post by dmaineah on May 20, 2019 14:55:47 GMT -5
He's washed up
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