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Post by grandsalami on May 29, 2017 16:29:51 GMT -5
Perfect example today why the inconsistency of Farrell is the problem.. Kelly in the 8th has a zero era with 8 k. Kelly has appeared in the 8th inning 10 times this season. Why would you use kelly today in the 6th for 1 inning with a lead when you do not have a setup reliever? If you bring in Barnes or any other RP in the 6th or 7th to get to Kelly, if they give up the lead you have 9 outs to get it back.. Take the blinders off gentlemen. The facts are undisputed.. Let me guess... Jim leyland is packing his bags? |
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Post by bigpupp on May 29, 2017 16:34:23 GMT -5
Perfect example today why the inconsistency of Farrell is the problem.. Kelly in the 8th has a zero era with 8 k. Kelly has appeared in the 8th inning 10 times this season. Why would you use kelly today in the 6th for 1 inning with a lead when you do not have a setup reliever? If you bring in Barnes or any other RP in the 6th or 7th to get to Kelly, if they give up the lead you have 9 outs to get it back.. Take the blinders off gentlemen. The facts are undisputed.. Farrell had Kelly pitch against the middle of the order while Barnes pitched against the bottom of the order. It didn't work, but it's not his fault. Take off the blinders, or better yet, just stop posting altogether. |
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Post by jimed14 on May 29, 2017 17:09:02 GMT -5
Kelly threw 29 pitches in the inning before. On what planet is bringing him out again a good idea with a very well rested bullpen? A 29 pitch inning is high stress and indicates he's not pitching that great.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 29, 2017 17:40:58 GMT -5
Ill be OK with this loss if we win the next 2. It's disappointing to lose games like the last 2 going up against the starters we were facing, but that is baseball. I had high hopes for Barnes, but they are diminishing. I get the exit velocity stuff, but the results are the results. I just always felt that his fastball would play well in a relief role, even with average secondary stuff. It just isn't happening for him.
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Post by dnfl333 on May 29, 2017 19:58:31 GMT -5
Perfect example today why the inconsistency of Farrell is the problem.. Kelly in the 8th has a zero era with 8 k. Kelly has appeared in the 8th inning 10 times this season. Why would you use kelly today in the 6th for 1 inning with a lead when you do not have a setup reliever? If you bring in Barnes or any other RP in the 6th or 7th to get to Kelly, if they give up the lead you have 9 outs to get it back.. Take the blinders off gentlemen. The facts are undisputed.. Farrell had Kelly pitch against the middle of the order while Barnes pitched against the bottom of the order. It didn't work, but it's not his fault. Take off the blinders, or better yet, just stop posting altogether. LOL Continue drinking the kool-aid my friend. It's the 6th inning. You don't burn your setup guy in the 6th |
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Post by dnfl333 on May 29, 2017 20:03:00 GMT -5
Kelly threw 29 pitches in the inning before. On what planet is bringing him out again a good idea with a very well rested bullpen? A 29 pitch inning is high stress and indicates he's not pitching that great. You just answered my question. If the bullpen is rested, you burn your best reliever in the 6th because of whose up is ludicrous... Make a lefty righty move or moves to get to Kelly in the 8th or Kelly for 1 batter in the 7th then the 8th.. Farrell lost this game. The facts are undisputed |
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Post by James Dunne on May 29, 2017 20:41:58 GMT -5
Joe Kelly entered the game with 15 walks and 9 strikeouts in 22 innings. John Farrell brought him in for the sixth inning to face the heart of the White Sox lineup. Despite needing 29 pitches to get through the inning, he managed to come out unscathed with no runs allowed. You are arguing that Kelly is better than Matt Barnes, and therefore Barnes should have been in the game first to face those better hitters, and that if they'd managed the game that way then the Red Sox would have won. And that the Red Sox bullpen giving up two runs in four innings is John Farrell's fault and an example of his poor management.
I just want to be clear here.
No good manager would have a bullpen that gives up runs.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 29, 2017 20:53:26 GMT -5
Joe Kelly entered the game with 15 walks and 9 strikeouts in 22 innings. John Farrell brought him in for the sixth inning to face the heart of the White Sox lineup. Despite needing 29 pitches to get through the inning, he managed to come out unscathed with no runs allowed. You are arguing that Kelly is better than Matt Barnes, and therefore Barnes should have been in the game first to face those better hitters, and that if they'd managed the game that way then the Red Sox would have won. And that the Red Sox bullpen giving up two runs in four innings is John Farrell's fault and an example of his poor management. I just want to be clear here. No good manager would have a bullpen that gives up runs. |
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Post by Don Caballero on May 29, 2017 22:12:26 GMT -5
I come to the gameday thread every time following a loss expecting the dnfl333 insane hot take and I never leave disappointed.
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Post by bigpupp on May 29, 2017 22:39:41 GMT -5
If you bring in Barnes or any other RP in the 6th or 7th to get to Kelly, if they give up the lead you have 9 outs to get it back.. LOL Continue drinking the kool-aid my friend. It's the 6th inning. You don't burn your setup guy in the 6th Just so I'm clear on your position: You would rather a worse pitcher throw against better hitters so the offense has more time to come back? Am I getting that completely correct, or would you like to clarify your stance? |
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Post by James Dunne on May 29, 2017 22:57:57 GMT -5
I come to the gameday thread every time following a loss expecting the dnfl333 insane hot take and I never leave disappointed. Whatever keeps you going in the post-Keith Couch era. |
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Post by soxfanatic on May 30, 2017 3:17:14 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on May 30, 2017 10:43:20 GMT -5
It was interesting that his 4 seam was up to 96.5 and averaged 94.9, much higher than in recent years. |
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Post by soxfanatic on May 30, 2017 16:02:21 GMT -5
It was interesting that his 4 seam was up to 96.5 and averaged 94.9, much higher than in recent years. Yes, I noticed that too, but forgot to add it to my post. Age 35 is not usually when you find new velocity. Definitely something to keep an eye on. |
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Post by sarasoxer on May 30, 2017 18:11:19 GMT -5
It was interesting that his 4 seam was up to 96.5 and averaged 94.9, much higher than in recent years. Yes, I noticed that too, but forgot to add it to my post. Age 35 is not usually when you find new velocity. Definitely something to keep an eye on. Puhleeze don't test him!!! .... .....heh..heh..heh. |
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 30, 2017 19:22:40 GMT -5
Hanley is in a really deep funk right now - seems uninterested in swinging. Not what we need for a clean up hitter.
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Post by keany on May 30, 2017 19:42:27 GMT -5
How has Travis looked at the plate? Sadly I can't really watch any games live and I'm left with game day. I've always liked him and want to see him succeed
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Post by jimed14 on May 30, 2017 19:46:57 GMT -5
Marrero, you tease! I really want to believe in him.
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Post by wesmantooth on May 30, 2017 19:48:22 GMT -5
DD hyped about Marrero's new found trade value
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Post by bookiemetts on May 30, 2017 20:03:34 GMT -5
How has Travis looked at the plate? Sadly I can't really watch any games live and I'm left with game day. I've always liked him and want to see him succeed He ripped a double to left center field. I think he's looked good so far. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on May 30, 2017 20:05:11 GMT -5
Someone a little over-amped?
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Post by jimed14 on May 30, 2017 20:10:14 GMT -5
Eventually, Sale's BABIP will have to come down from 1.000.
After the 3rd run, his xFIP was at 0.63.
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 30, 2017 20:31:55 GMT -5
Marrero is singlehandedly solving our Panda issue!
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Post by jimed14 on May 30, 2017 20:31:59 GMT -5
How can you take Marrero out of the lineup now? haha
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Post by DesignatedKyle on May 30, 2017 20:32:46 GMT -5
well this was unexpected.
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