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Salty, Ellsbury & Hanrahan avoid arbitration
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Post by dmaineah on Jan 17, 2013 12:54:00 GMT -5
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 17, 2013 13:03:20 GMT -5
I'll bet he's gone...
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Post by patrmac04 on Jan 17, 2013 13:54:48 GMT -5
Wonder if they waited for the Napoli deal to be done before announcing this.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jan 17, 2013 15:16:43 GMT -5
Were there any predictions on his salary prior to this?
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Post by soxfanatic on Jan 17, 2013 15:24:50 GMT -5
Matt Swartz of MLBTR projected a 3.9 million salary for Saltalamacchia. For full meaure here are the projections for the others:
Jacoby Ellsbury - $8.1MM Joel Hanrahan - $6.9MM Andrew Bailey - $3.9MM Alfredo Aceves - $2.6MM Craig Breslow - $2.4MM Daniel Bard - $1.6MM Andrew Miller - $1.4MM Franklin Morales - $1.4MM
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2013 16:02:50 GMT -5
i hope salty gets traded. cant throw runners out, can't call a game, cant get on base or hit for average. all he does is run into a pitch here and there
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Post by sibbysisti on Jan 17, 2013 23:05:05 GMT -5
Like to see him keep up those power numbers while cutting down on the Ks.
Pretty reasonable contract numbers for a guy with his experience. This allows the team to give Lavarnway an everyday job in Pawtucket with a likely call up later.
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Post by bluechip on Jan 17, 2013 23:55:38 GMT -5
I like Salty well enough, not a terrible starting catcher. Since I believe that Lavarnway can be more than "not a terrible starting catcher," I'd love to see Salty traded. I still believe the Yankees would be a great fit...
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jan 18, 2013 8:42:23 GMT -5
I like Salty well enough, not a terrible starting catcher. Since I believe that Lavarnway can be more than "not a terrible starting catcher," I'd love to see Salty traded. I still believe the Yankees would be a great fit... Seattle and the White Sox are even better fits.
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 18, 2013 9:35:23 GMT -5
I really don't know that Seattle is a fit at all. Salty's biggest asset is his plus power, and Safeco negates that. Then again, you could say the same think about Morse, but Morse also has some versatility.
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Post by joshv02 on Jan 18, 2013 10:22:17 GMT -5
Morse's versatility is the ability to stand in multiple places and not get to the baseball I don't think Salty is a good fit for Seattle b/c they want Montero to be a starting C (their roster construction doesn't make a lot of sense if Montero is a DH), and you don't give up a significant asset for a player who plays the same side of a platoon as your starter.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 18, 2013 13:01:05 GMT -5
I really don't know that Seattle is a fit at all. Salty's biggest asset is his plus power, and Safeco negates that. Then again, you could say the same think about Morse, but Morse also has some versatility. As someone who regularly visits Safeco, I'm going to be very interested in seeing how the changes in the dimensions change the hitting environment. Let's not forget that with the current resources available, you could go through every single flyball that was hit in the park over the last few years. That would be a very good sample size, probably multi-hundreds of data points. From that you could decide how many you would liked to have been home runs. That's where you set the fences. If you do that you're guaranteed to change the conditions dramatically. Here are the proposed changes: Notice that the right field fence isn't coming in at all. That's because, contrary to what many people believe, the hitting environment out that way is already good. The really important changes will be out there in left-center, where many hard hit balls go to die.
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 18, 2013 13:28:42 GMT -5
I didn't realize they were bringing in the fences. That left field alley was a monster.
I'd like to see Montero's hit chart on that. His HR/FB rate was on the low side, particularly for someone who hits so few infield fly balls. I'm standing by him as my pick for breakout player this year.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 18, 2013 13:35:33 GMT -5
While they're only bringing in the right-rightcenter fence by 4 feet, and that may not seem like much, anyone who's watched the Mariners play saw Ichiro back himself right up against the old fence, feeling for it with his hands, dozens and dozens of times over the years. That will also make a difference, I'll bet.
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Post by dmaineah on Jan 18, 2013 16:49:43 GMT -5
Now that Ellsbury is signed for 2013 the Front Office needs to work on getting him signed long term.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jan 18, 2013 16:57:17 GMT -5
You mean the round table decision makers?
But for real - The odds of Ellsbury signing an extension now are slim and it has nothing to do with the front office or the quality if their work. He's a Boras client and will go to free agency to maximize his value. I certainly wouldn't rule out the Sox signing him at that point though.
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Post by remember04 on Jan 18, 2013 17:22:17 GMT -5
You mean the round table decision makers? But for real - The odds of Ellsbury signing an extension now are slim and it has nothing to do with the front office or the quality if their work. He's a Boras client and will go to free agency to maximize his value. I certainly wouldn't rule out the Sox signing him at that point though. I agree and to add some such as Carlos Gonzalez signed extensions but he apparently loved it in Colorado. I do not think Ellsbury has that same love for Boston. I wonder if he does go to free agency and we just slightly more than another team depending on who it is of course of if he'd actually choose less money to play elsewhere? He does have some old wounds in the past from the rib injury and the medical staff etc that may or may not have healed. Personally unless he has a really down year and agrees to a "pillow contract" to reestablish his value I think he's gone and personally hope he as I don't think his skill set going forward will be worth the deal he'll get if he's remotely healthy or productive. On a side note on first reading the title of this thread before you actually finished reading it did anybody else think for a second that Salty, Ellsbury and Hanrahan may have been traded?
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 18, 2013 17:24:03 GMT -5
Jon Heyman @jonheymancbs aceves gets $2.65M plus incentives, via @toconnellsports #redsox
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 18, 2013 17:58:41 GMT -5
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp In addition to Aceves, Ellsbury and Hanrahan, the Red Sox announce they've come to terms with Bailey, Bard, Miller and Morales.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 18, 2013 18:21:35 GMT -5
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp In addition to Aceves, Ellsbury and Hanrahan, the Red Sox announce they've come to terms with Bailey, Bard, Miller and Morales. So this just leaves Breslow? Yes?
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 18, 2013 18:48:22 GMT -5
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp In addition to Aceves, Ellsbury and Hanrahan, the Red Sox announce they've come to terms with Bailey, Bard, Miller and Morales. So this just leaves Breslow? Yes? I think...
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Post by sarasoxer on Jan 18, 2013 20:02:26 GMT -5
So this just leaves Breslow? Yes? I think... Hey, don't we have to give the Sox and Ben some credit? I think Mr. Ben is starting to make his mark with this and other deals (including Napoli). It has seemed that when something good happens the vibe is that it was Sox management that did it and when something seemingly off line occurs, it is Ben's fault...he is not up to the job. I think that the ship of state is making a turn for the better and that Ben is at the helm.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 18, 2013 21:11:34 GMT -5
Cherrington was given his marching orders by ownership: no contracts longer than three years; don't mortgage the future; stay within budget while trying to field a competitive team. He's done all of that, and while there are plenty of posters on the board who dislike his moves, he deserves a lot of praise. This isn't Duquette or Epstein's MLB. The mandate looks plenty smart to me, and he looks like he's executed it.
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Post by foreverred9 on Jan 19, 2013 0:09:50 GMT -5
You mean the round table decision makers? But for real - The odds of Ellsbury signing an extension now are slim and it has nothing to do with the front office or the quality if their work. He's a Boras client and will go to free agency to maximize his value. I certainly wouldn't rule out the Sox signing him at that point though. Agreed, slim is good odds right now. I think there are a few factors that make it more likely that he'll be elsewhere in 2014: 1) Bradley should be pushing at the door by September 2) He's only played 3 out of 5 full seasons and his OPS in those three seasons has been .730, .770, and .928 3) Boras is going to over-value the 2011 season out on the market and someone will bite I don't expect the Sox to be the team that bites.
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Post by grandsalami on Jan 19, 2013 14:15:05 GMT -5
Tim Brown @tbrownyahoo Breslow gets 2 years plus option with Boston. Guaranteed $6.25m. Max on deal is $10.15m. Pending physical.
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