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Post by swingingbunt on Dec 10, 2017 20:52:07 GMT -5
Not sure where to put this.... @bradfo: Steven Wright arrested on domestic assault charges t.co/5oVvwRmLoB |
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 10, 2017 21:00:05 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 10, 2017 21:00:24 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 10, 2017 21:01:08 GMT -5
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Post by rookie13 on Dec 10, 2017 21:24:26 GMT -5
Well this has to be at the top of my list of, "Things I didn't expect to read today."
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Post by Addam603 on Dec 10, 2017 21:53:39 GMT -5
Still far too early to make any assumptions about the situation. While the charges should be taken seriously, we currently know very little.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Dec 10, 2017 22:52:00 GMT -5
Still far too early to make any assumptions about the situation. While the charges should be taken seriously, we currently know very little. If indeed he never raised a hand then is this an over reaction by Police? WTF, we definitely don't need this hit on our SP depth. He was an All Star starter just 2 season ago and missed all of last season. I had him penciled in as our sixth starter. With Owens claimed by Arizona, this is something worth keeping an eye on. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 10, 2017 22:56:13 GMT -5
Still far too early to make any assumptions about the situation. While the charges should be taken seriously, we currently know very little. If indeed he never raised a hand then is this an over reaction by Police? Nope. A lot of times the partner will never come out and say a hand was ever raised in fear of their partner. Domestic violence is a complicated issue and one that stems further than what statements were made. Wright will probably have his charges dropped, but will also be punished 30 games by the league. It is what it is. |
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Dec 11, 2017 0:08:28 GMT -5
If indeed he never raised a hand then is this an over reaction by Police? Nope. A lot of times the partner will never come out and say a hand was ever raised in fear of their partner. Domestic violence is a complicated issue and one that stems further than what statements were made. Wright will probably have his charges dropped, but will also be punished 30 games by the league. It is what it is. It seems like the man is arrested as a matter of course. If that's the case it's as wrong as when divorce happens and the woman inevitably ends of with the kids or at least nearly all the time. How is that fair and equitable treatment? |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 11, 2017 0:54:41 GMT -5
Nope. A lot of times the partner will never come out and say a hand was ever raised in fear of their partner. Domestic violence is a complicated issue and one that stems further than what statements were made. Wright will probably have his charges dropped, but will also be punished 30 games by the league. It is what it is. It seems like the man is arrested as a matter of course. The fact that you're assuming anything in a matter of domestic abuse is as wrong as it gets. |
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Dec 11, 2017 2:40:35 GMT -5
It seems like the man is arrested as a matter of course. The fact that you're assuming anything in a matter of domestic abuse is as wrong as it gets. Read the Sunday Globe regarding men being abused. What assumption am I making that is wrong? In many states it's mandatory to make an arrest. It appears you are doing the very thing you accuse me of. I (edit) predicated the thread, 'if a hand was not raised... |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 11, 2017 2:57:54 GMT -5
The fact that you're assuming anything in a matter of domestic abuse is as wrong as it gets. Read the Sunday Globe regarding men being abused. What assumption am I making that is wrong? Every single part of it. You're blaming the laws of domestic violence made to protect women and then you're going on about a rant about women who abuse men with domestic abuse charges. I'm not going to assume that a hand was not raised, even if you are by reading about it and not knowing the full situation of what happened. Maybe the loving wife wants to protect Stephen Wright's pitching career by saying "a hand was not raised." Domestic violence is a VERY complicated issue, so stop assuming only because you read what everyone made in a statement. You'll probably never know the full truth of the story, and frankly I don't want to know the full story. All I know is that this off-season absolutely blows. The Yankees are acquiring MVP's and Red Sox players are getting arrested for charges that I can't stand personally. |
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Post by shaqtus on Dec 11, 2017 3:16:55 GMT -5
[...]WTF, we definitely don't need this hit on our SP depth[...] Two charges of domestic violence are filed, and you're worried about pitching depth? I can't even begin... |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 11, 2017 3:27:08 GMT -5
[...]WTF, we definitely don't need this hit on our SP depth[...] Two charges of domestic violence are filed, and you're worried about pitching depth? I can't even begin... ^^^^This times a thousand. |
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Post by jmei on Dec 11, 2017 7:54:40 GMT -5
This is not the thread to discuss domestic violence generally, and I'd ask folks to stick to the Wright situation specifically. Frankly, there's not much to discuss until we get more details.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 11, 2017 9:15:32 GMT -5
My wild guess is that a cell phone was broken in anger with the "911 Prevention of Call" charge. There are probably a lot of men who don't know they're breaking the law even when they don't physically hit a woman.
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Post by sibbysisti on Dec 11, 2017 9:16:53 GMT -5
Any reports on how his rehab is going?
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Post by m1keyboots on Dec 11, 2017 11:30:19 GMT -5
Ill edit my post
He shouldn't have yelled with her. Jail, everytime. Especially if there was any attempt for him to disconnect a 9-11 call
Once she says she's calling 9-11 Steve all you can do is lock yourself in a room, and call your lawyer until the police get there
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Post by ericmvan on Dec 11, 2017 12:32:43 GMT -5
My wild guess is that a cell phone was broken in anger with the "911 Prevention of Call" charge. There are probably a lot of men who don't know they're breaking the law even when they don't physically hit a woman. Good catch. Trying to keep speculation to a logical minimum ... We know that his wife consented within a day to the fact that he did not "lift a hand" towards her. While it's true that there are women that will deny they were physically abused when they were (since they fear more abuse if they report it), these are not the women who dial 911 during a heated argument. That's entirely opposite behavior. What we don't know at all is why she felt she needed to dial 911 over an argument that was not at the time physical. The range of possibilities there is tremendously extreme -- from past physical abuse, through understandable overreaction and caution (which would be the best outcome, and is perhaps the most likely), to (vastly less common) mental illness.* *I had a friend who once walked out of an argument with his wife, who had severe Borderline Personality Disorder, and drove to the police station to warn them that she might be filing a false charge of physical abuse. Which she did (and which they investigated and declined to act upon). While this sort of behavior is extremely rare, it does happen. And, no, I didn't witness that incident firsthand myself, but I did witness other behavior of hers was which actually much more disturbing and unbalanced. |
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 11, 2017 12:44:26 GMT -5
Ill edit my post He shouldn't have yelled with her. Jail, everytime. Especially if there was any attempt for him to disconnect a 9-11 call Once she says she's calling 9-11 Steve all you can do is lock yourself in a room, and call your lawyer until the police get there Actually, the right thing to do every time is leave the house but make yourself available for questioning. |
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Post by jmei on Dec 11, 2017 15:15:04 GMT -5
We know that his wife consented within a day to the fact that he did not "lift a hand" towards her. I'm not sure we do know that. The statement was provided by Wright's lawyer and attributed to and phrased to read like it came from "the Wright family," but it's unclear whether his wife (or other members of his family) had a meaningful, uncoerced opportunity to review and sign off on that statement. Again, I'd ask that folks refrain from speculation on this specific incident or discussion of domestic violence issues more broadly. This is a very sensitive issue for folks and I'd like to steer clear of topics including, but not limited to, what constitutes domestic violence and what victims of domestic violence should or should not do in the aftermath thereof. If you feel the need to discuss such topics, the throwdown subforum is a few forums down. Thanks. |
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Post by m1keyboots on Dec 22, 2017 15:43:41 GMT -5
We know that his wife consented within a day to the fact that he did not "lift a hand" towards her. I'm not sure we do know that. The statement was provided by Wright's lawyer and attributed to and phrased to read like it came from "the Wright family," but it's unclear whether his wife (or other members of his family) had a meaningful, uncoerced opportunity to review and sign off on that statement. Again, I'd ask that folks refrain from speculation on this specific incident or discussion of domestic violence issues more broadly. This is a very sensitive issue for folks and I'd like to steer clear of topics including, but not limited to, what constitutes domestic violence and what victims of domestic violence should or should not do in the aftermath thereof. If you feel the need to discuss such topics, the throwdown subforum is a few forums down. Thanks. Im a big fan of yours and totally understand why you asked what you have asked here. It probably doesn't belong in this forum, apart from what may happen with his ML/MILB career with the Sawx. It just seems like refraining from discussing the topic and the consequences of life before/after an accusation is counterproductive. However, I hope that did not come across as telling you how to run the site etc. or approaching the situation in a broad fashion like you have asked we not. Just a thought. Anyways, in Winthrop to see family, glad to be back. Happy Holidays! |
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 28, 2017 13:33:07 GMT -5
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Dec 28, 2017 16:00:50 GMT -5
This wasn't anywhere close to firing a gun in anger after a fight, so if he's suspended, it better be less than 30 games. Glad we've got our priorities in order here. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 28, 2017 16:35:32 GMT -5
Yeah, he's getting 30 games. Seems to be the standard punishment for these kind of rule violations no matter what the circumstances.
It could be a lot more games if it was serious, but this matter doesn't seem to be that serious after the retirement.
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