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Post by jioh on Jan 31, 2013 14:01:29 GMT -5
Well yeah considering present 40 power translates to about 10-14 home runs, and he had 20 last year, it's just incorrect in the most basic way. Mayo's answer, which he mentioned on twitter in response to a complaint from me, is that by present power he means present power if he were in the big leagues now. Still not satisfying, but not quite so innumerate.
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Post by jioh on Jan 31, 2013 14:36:57 GMT -5
www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/Pete A. notes that "The Baseball America Prospect Handbook arrived in the mail today. Xander Bogaerts is rated 10th overall in baseball [MLB had him at 20]. Jackie Bradley (32) [same as MLB] and Matt Barnes (43) [MLB was 38] are in the top 50." Apologies if this was mentioned earlier by those citing it directly. Anyone have Keith Law's numbers?
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jan 31, 2013 14:43:54 GMT -5
That seems like a crazy way of doing it. How could any prospect get even an average grade on the hit tool with that metric? But, looking at a few more of his rankings, I don't see anyone with a 5 or above on the hit grade ... so I guess that's how he rolls. That doesn't seem like a very effective path for evaluating prospects.
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Post by texs31 on Jan 31, 2013 14:54:15 GMT -5
Law releases his prospect lists next week
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Post by borisman on Jan 31, 2013 16:03:11 GMT -5
Well yeah considering present 40 power translates to about 10-14 home runs, and he had 20 last year, it's just incorrect in the most basic way. Mayo's answer, which he mentioned on twitter in response to a complaint from me, is that by present power he means present power if he were in the big leagues now. Still not satisfying, but not quite so innumerate. Yeah, if he played in the big leagues this year he would hit about 14 hrs.
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Post by alfmendolson on Feb 1, 2013 14:58:21 GMT -5
www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/Pete A. notes that "The Baseball America Prospect Handbook arrived in the mail today. Xander Bogaerts is rated 10th overall in baseball [MLB had him at 20]. Jackie Bradley (32) [same as MLB] and Matt Barnes (43) [MLB was 38] are in the top 50." Apologies if this was mentioned earlier by those citing it directly. Anyone have Keith Law's numbers? Those rankings are only from Callis. Cooper had: Bogaerts {6} JBJ (31} Barnes (43} Lingo had: Bogaerts {5} JBJ (43} Barnes (46} Manuel had: Bogaerts {8} JBJ (37} Barnes (43} All four BA writers are very high on him
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Post by jioh on Feb 1, 2013 15:16:34 GMT -5
. [[[...]] Those rankings are only from Callis. Cooper had: Bogaerts {6} JBJ (31} Barnes (43} Lingo had: Bogaerts {5} JBJ (43} Barnes (46} Manuel had: Bogaerts {8} JBJ (37} Barnes (43} All four BA writers are very high on him Thanks, wow.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Feb 1, 2013 16:50:06 GMT -5
That's some serious consensus. You don't see that little variance very often.
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 5, 2013 11:15:41 GMT -5
MLB.com posted their top 20 Sox prospects FWIW:
1. Xander Bogaerts 2. Jackie Bradley 3. Matt Barnes 4. Allen Webster 5. Henry Owens 6. Jose Iglesias 7. Bryce Brentz 8. Garin Cecchini 9. Blake Swihart 10. Deven Marrero 11. Brandon Jacobs 12. Drake Britton 13. Brandon Workman 14. Brian Johnson 15. Keury De La Cruz 16. Christian Vazquez 17. Anthony Ranaudo 18. Pat Light 19. Jose Vinicio 20. Travis Shaw
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Post by Oregon Norm on Feb 5, 2013 13:14:32 GMT -5
It wouldn't surprise me if Vazquez were to reach AAA before he turns 23 (August 21st). Very small sample sizes but he had nice showings in both the Arizona Fall and Puerto Rican Winter leagues. Re-reading the bio on his SoxProspects page and he's tightening up his skillset for what holes his defensive game did have, and those weren't many. Looks like he's blocking pitches well now. The arm and, from all I've heard, the game-calling skills are there. And I really like his patience as a hitter. He's brought that along with him every step of the way. I think he's a very good prospect in what is already a strong lineup.
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