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Post by awall on Jul 9, 2018 7:17:46 GMT -5
I don't think there is a dedicated thread yet, if so, apologies to the mods...
Wondering if anyone has put eyes on this guy at Lowell yet. The numbers are dominating. I don't think the Sox need to rush him in an attempt to get ML help this year, but it sure seems like there's little point in keeping him at Lowell and wasting any more pitches at that level. Think he's up a level in the next week or two?
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jul 9, 2018 7:32:15 GMT -5
I don't think there is a dedicated thread yet, if so, apologies to the mods... Wondering if anyone has put eyes on this guy at Lowell yet. The numbers are dominating. I don't think the Sox need to rush him in an attempt to get ML help this year, but it sure seems like there's little point in keeping him at Lowell and wasting any more pitches at that level. Think he's up a level in the next week or two? I do! And I think he should skip Greenville and go directly to Salem. BUT that is where he should just settle in and get ready to take off next year.
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Post by mattpicard on Jul 9, 2018 7:39:18 GMT -5
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Post by Ryanod1 on Jul 15, 2018 3:55:22 GMT -5
Wow. After tonights game (7/14/18) Feltman has a 0.00 era, 6 ip and 13k. This shouldn't be a surprise, but still is very impressive. If you had to guess, what level would be considered most comparable to college level would you say? His Greenville stats very well could be his advanced stuff vs. subpar competeition, but im sure its a mix. It will be interesting to see how he adjusts when the Sox push him.
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Post by radiohix on Jul 15, 2018 4:15:29 GMT -5
Wow. After tonights game (7/14/18) Feltman has a 0.00 era, 6 ip and 13k. This shouldn't be a surprise, but still is very impressive. If you had to guess, what level would be considered most comparable to college level would you say? His Greenville stats very well could be his advanced stuff vs. subpar competeition, but im sure its a mix. It will be interesting to see how he adjusts when the Sox push him. I may be wrong but IIRC Chris Hatfield has put an analogy between levels and SEC level competition compare to A Advanced. And yes, I think they should keep challenging him by promoting him to Salemand I think he'll end up the year in Portland.
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Post by Ryanod1 on Jul 16, 2018 5:49:00 GMT -5
Wow. After tonights game (7/14/18) Feltman has a 0.00 era, 6 ip and 13k. This shouldn't be a surprise, but still is very impressive. If you had to guess, what level would be considered most comparable to college level would you say? His Greenville stats very well could be his advanced stuff vs. subpar competeition, but im sure its a mix. It will be interesting to see how he adjusts when the Sox push him. I may be wrong but IIRC Chris Hatfield has put an analogy between levels and SEC level competition compare to A Advanced. And yes, I think they should keep challenging him by promoting him to Salemand I think he'll end up the year in Portland. Appreciate you letting me know. I havent seen the comparison, but it definitely makes sense. So Feltman is basically facing what he roughly did in college. There are plenty of good players in low minors so Feltman is certainly holding his own.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 16, 2018 6:10:35 GMT -5
I may be wrong but IIRC Chris Hatfield has put an analogy between levels and SEC level competition compare to A Advanced. And yes, I think they should keep challenging him by promoting him to Salemand I think he'll end up the year in Portland. Appreciate you letting me know. I havent seen the comparison, but it definitely makes sense. So Feltman is basically facing what he roughly did in college. There are plenty of good players in low minors so Feltman is certainly holding his own. Feltman is not at high A (Salem), he's at low A (Greenville). The analogies I've seen, AA Japan/Cuba A+ Top div 1 colleges A other div 1 schools TCU is not a SEC school so I'm not sure what level of competition they face. A 70 grade FB and slider is a 70 grade FB & slider even if thrown against a little league team. Low and high A should be overmatched.
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 16, 2018 7:48:54 GMT -5
TCU is not a SEC school so I'm not sure what level of competition they face. The Big 12 was strong this year. Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, and OSU were all legit.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 16, 2018 8:16:25 GMT -5
Appreciate you letting me know. I havent seen the comparison, but it definitely makes sense. So Feltman is basically facing what he roughly did in college. There are plenty of good players in low minors so Feltman is certainly holding his own. Feltman is not at high A (Salem), he's at low A (Greenville). The analogies I've seen, AA Japan/Cuba A+ Top div 1 colleges A other div 1 schools TCU is not a SEC school so I'm not sure what level of competition they face. A 70 grade FB and slider is a 70 grade FB & slider even if thrown against a little league team. Low and high A should be overmatched. What about the Mexican league?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 16, 2018 8:21:33 GMT -5
TCU is not a SEC school so I'm not sure what level of competition they face. The Big 12 was strong this year. Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, and OSU were all legit. If that's the case, he won't see a level of opponents that he hasn't already dominated until he reaches Portland. That's pretty much how I'd have felt if he came out of the SEC.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 16, 2018 11:03:04 GMT -5
Feltman is not at high A (Salem), he's at low A (Greenville). The analogies I've seen, AA Japan/Cuba A+ Top div 1 colleges A other div 1 schools TCU is not a SEC school so I'm not sure what level of competition they face. A 70 grade FB and slider is a 70 grade FB & slider even if thrown against a little league team. Low and high A should be overmatched. What about the Mexican league? The wild west. Anything from Low A to AAA. It's hard to make an analogy to foreign leagues - I'm not even sure I agree with the AA to Japan/Cuba one for the same reason - you get a wide disparity in talent, so yeah, the top guys could jump right to, say, AAA or AA, or even MLB, but that's not true for the whole league. Just looking at recent Boston signees from Mexico, you have Velazquez who went right to AAA and wasn't entirely overmatched in MLB, Quiroz who went to AA, and Aldo Ramirez and Jorge Rodriguez who went to the DSL.
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Post by manfred on Jul 16, 2018 11:28:47 GMT -5
Is there a sense of any innings/games limits on college relievers in their first pro seasons? If Feltman advances quickly, he could help the Sox late season... but will he be hitting a limit (or will fatigue be an issue)?
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Post by Ryanod1 on Jul 17, 2018 5:03:16 GMT -5
Appreciate you letting me know. I havent seen the comparison, but it definitely makes sense. So Feltman is basically facing what he roughly did in college. There are plenty of good players in low minors so Feltman is certainly holding his own. Feltman is not at high A (Salem), he's at low A (Greenville). The analogies I've seen, AA Japan/Cuba A+ Top div 1 colleges A other div 1 schools TCU is not a SEC school so I'm not sure what level of competition they face. A 70 grade FB and slider is a 70 grade FB & slider even if thrown against a little league team. Low and high A should be overmatched. Very good points. I honestly completely spaced with the comment on him being in High A vs. Low A. I do get that a 70 grade is a 70 grade. Basically its like a walks like a duck, quacks like a duck kind of thing. I have seen a lot of players that get graded out with a 70-80 fastball but they still have horid ERAs. So im not sure if he is a current 70 grade vs. a future. Regardless, You can have major velo and movement but still not do much with it. Kind of like Joe Hicks in St.Louis with a 103 mph fastball. From the videos I have seen of his games in the minors he is making players look foolish, and I love it! Quite a few players have looked really bad vs Feltman, and have made very very weak contact.
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Post by Ryanod1 on Jul 17, 2018 5:07:33 GMT -5
Feltman is not at high A (Salem), he's at low A (Greenville). The analogies I've seen, AA Japan/Cuba A+ Top div 1 colleges A other div 1 schools TCU is not a SEC school so I'm not sure what level of competition they face. A 70 grade FB and slider is a 70 grade FB & slider even if thrown against a little league team. Low and high A should be overmatched. Very good points. I honestly completely spaced with the comment on him being in High A vs. Low A. I do get that a 70 grade is a 70 grade. Basically its like a walks like a duck, quacks like a duck kind of thing. I have seen a lot of players that get graded out with a 70-80 fastball but they still have horid ERAs. So im not sure if he is a current 70 grade vs. a future. Regardless, You can have major velo and movement but still not do much with it. Kind of like Joe Hicks in St.Louis with a 103 mph fastball. From the videos I have seen of his games in the minors he is making players look foolish, and I love it! Quite a few players have looked really bad vs Feltman, and have made very very weak contact. I am a Kansas State grad and have played out there. The competiition is very good. What Feltman did in college was nothing short of spectacular. He certainly seems to have the demeanor to handle late innings, and didnt seem nervous pitching against some MLB draftees. Pitchers are so easy to read when they are nervous, and Feltman seems like a rock. Must be nice to know your stuff is so overpowering haha.
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Post by cdj on Jul 27, 2018 16:31:20 GMT -5
Wouldn’t be crazy to have him skip Salem at all. As a matter of fact I kind of expect it. But I don’t know anything though lol
Portland is where we will learn what we need to about the kid. I would fully expect him to run through Carolina league hitters if placed there
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Post by benjgc on Jul 27, 2018 20:12:12 GMT -5
Wouldn’t be crazy to have him skip Salem at all. As a matter of fact I kind of expect it. But I don’t know anything though lol Portland is where we will learn what we need to about the kid. I would fully expect him to run through Carolina league hitters if placed there I would like to test this hypothesis, please.
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Post by telson13 on Jul 27, 2018 21:31:36 GMT -5
Wouldn’t be crazy to have him skip Salem at all. As a matter of fact I kind of expect it. But I don’t know anything though lol Portland is where we will learn what we need to about the kid. I would fully expect him to run through Carolina league hitters if placed there I would like to test this hypothesis, please. Agreed. I don’t think there’s any harm in giving him 6-10 outings there and promoting him to Portland to finish the year in a high note. He’s been excellent but not ludicrously dominant in Greenville. If he throws up a sub-2 ERA with peripherals to match in Salem, then he moves. But he’s probably gonna tire some and I’d hate to see him jump to AA and get roughed up to end the year.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 27, 2018 21:36:53 GMT -5
I would like to test this hypothesis, please. Agreed. I don’t think there’s any harm in giving him 6-10 outings there and promoting him to Portland to finish the year in a high note. He’s been excellent but not ludicrously dominant in Greenville. If he throws up a sub-2 ERA with peripherals to match in Salem, then he moves. But he’s probably gonna tire some and I’d hate to see him jump to AA and get roughed up to end the year. Lol he has 20 strikeouts and 1 walk in 10 innings. It's hard to be more dominant than that. I personally think he should be promoted to high A in the last month of the season. If he shoves, then he can pitch in the AFL and then start the year in AA next year. That kind of timeline could give a June or July appearance in the majors by next year.
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Post by telson13 on Jul 27, 2018 21:45:51 GMT -5
Agreed. I don’t think there’s any harm in giving him 6-10 outings there and promoting him to Portland to finish the year in a high note. He’s been excellent but not ludicrously dominant in Greenville. If he throws up a sub-2 ERA with peripherals to match in Salem, then he moves. But he’s probably gonna tire some and I’d hate to see him jump to AA and get roughed up to end the year. Lol he has 20 strikeouts and 1 walk in 10 innings. It's hard to be more dominant than that. I personally think he should be promoted to high A in the last month of the season. If he shoves, then he can pitch in the AFL and then start the year in AA next year. That kind of timeline could give a June or July appearance in the majors by next year. He’s given up 6 hits in 6 innings with a walk and 3 ERA in Greenville. He’s been terrific (13 K in 6 innings), but it’s not like he’s been completely unhittable in low A. I don’t put much stock in his Lowell stats because that was clearly overmatched competition. I’m not at all downplaying what he’s done...I just don’t think his Low A performance screams “promote me to AA yesterday.” I think we’re both looking at a similar promotion scale though...Salem for a month, maybe a whiff of AA for a couple games and playoffs, short break, then AFL. Start 2019 in Portland and promote him aggressively unless he gives some sign they need to slow down.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 27, 2018 23:06:00 GMT -5
Feltman in Greenville:
1: LD 1B to CF, Ks, Ks, Ks 2: Ks, Ks, E7 (Castellanos), Ks 3: FB 2B to CF, bunt 1B, Foul P6, bunt 1B, F9, BB, F8 4: Ks, 1-3, Ks 5: Ks, FB 3B to CF, Ks, GB 2B to LF, Ks 6: Ks, 4-3, Ks
That's about as dominant as a guy can be expected to get. 2 of the hits are bunt singles. He's been dealing with a Greenville outfield in which Suarez is learning to play CF and occasionally has first baseman Castellanos in left. "Ground ball double" feels like a ground ball pulled down the line past the poor-fielding Benge - rough luck. That defense is just NOT good right now, and it would not surprise me if several of those extra base hits were played into being by the outfielders or in that one case, Benge at third.
He's dominating. Move him up. Bet you he'd do better in Salem with a better defense behind him.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 27, 2018 23:17:54 GMT -5
Feltman in Greenville: 1: LD 1B to CF, Ks, Ks, Ks 2: Ks, Ks, E7 (Castellanos), Ks 3: FB 2B to CF, bunt 1B, Foul P6, bunt 1B, F9, BB, F8 4: Ks, 1-3, Ks 5: Ks, FB 3B to CF, Ks, GB 2B to LF, Ks 6: Ks, 4-3, Ks That's about as dominant as a guy can be expected to get. 2 of the hits are bunt singles. He's been dealing with a Greenville outfield in which Suarez is learning to play CF and occasionally has first baseman Castellanos in left. "Ground ball double" feels like a ground ball pulled down the line past the poor-fielding Benge - rough luck. That defense is just NOT good right now, and it would not surprise me if several of those extra base hits were played into being by the outfielders or in that one case, Benge at third. He's dominating. Move him up. Bet you he'd do better in Salem with a better defense behind him. Iirc, which may or may not be the case, I think there were live reports in the game threads on the 3: 2B to CF that said it should have been caught and 5:that said it should have been held to a double.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 28, 2018 0:16:41 GMT -5
Feltman in Greenville: 1: LD 1B to CF, Ks, Ks, Ks 2: Ks, Ks, E7 (Castellanos), Ks 3: FB 2B to CF, bunt 1B, Foul P6, bunt 1B, F9, BB, F8 4: Ks, 1-3, Ks 5: Ks, FB 3B to CF, Ks, GB 2B to LF, Ks 6: Ks, 4-3, Ks That's about as dominant as a guy can be expected to get. 2 of the hits are bunt singles. He's been dealing with a Greenville outfield in which Suarez is learning to play CF and occasionally has first baseman Castellanos in left. "Ground ball double" feels like a ground ball pulled down the line past the poor-fielding Benge - rough luck. That defense is just NOT good right now, and it would not surprise me if several of those extra base hits were played into being by the outfielders or in that one case, Benge at third. He's dominating. Move him up. Bet you he'd do better in Salem with a better defense behind him. Do you think he's a good candidate for the AFL this year Chris?
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 28, 2018 1:54:37 GMT -5
Feltman in Greenville: 1: LD 1B to CF, Ks, Ks, Ks 2: Ks, Ks, E7 (Castellanos), Ks 3: FB 2B to CF, bunt 1B, Foul P6, bunt 1B, F9, BB, F8 4: Ks, 1-3, Ks 5: Ks, FB 3B to CF, Ks, GB 2B to LF, Ks 6: Ks, 4-3, Ks That's about as dominant as a guy can be expected to get. 2 of the hits are bunt singles. He's been dealing with a Greenville outfield in which Suarez is learning to play CF and occasionally has first baseman Castellanos in left. "Ground ball double" feels like a ground ball pulled down the line past the poor-fielding Benge - rough luck. That defense is just NOT good right now, and it would not surprise me if several of those extra base hits were played into being by the outfielders or in that one case, Benge at third. He's dominating. Move him up. Bet you he'd do better in Salem with a better defense behind him. Do you think he's a good candidate for the AFL this year Chris? Not Chris but I would guess no because the Sox probably won't want to overwork him in his first season of pro ball, and I think the extra reps would only be marginally beneficial anyway.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 28, 2018 1:54:43 GMT -5
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Post by soxpatsceltics on Jul 28, 2018 2:02:45 GMT -5
The best comparison for Feltman at this point is Zach Burdi, who was not as dominant as him and finished the year at AAA. Burdi was in AA after 5 appearances. I see Feltman starting August in Portland.
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