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Post by mredsox89 on Jul 25, 2018 9:44:47 GMT -5
Sox get Eovaldi per Rosenthal
Edit: Straight up for Beeks apparently
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Post by azblue on Jul 25, 2018 9:50:14 GMT -5
The Red Sox have officially struck a deal to land righty Nathan Eovaldi from the division-rival Rays, as Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic first reported (via Twitter). Young lefty Jalen Beeks will go to Tampa Bay in return, per Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 25, 2018 9:52:27 GMT -5
Welp, don't love that.
Seriously, someone talk me into this. How are 10 Nathan Eovaldi starts worth six-plus years of Jalen Beeks?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 25, 2018 9:54:42 GMT -5
Welp, don't love that. Seriously, someone talk me into this. How are 10 Nathan Eovaldi starts worth six-plus years of Jalen Beeks? Really damn dumb, but Eovaldi should at least be quite useful in the bullpen and possibly replace Kelly in the postseason. |
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Post by swingingbunt on Jul 25, 2018 9:55:45 GMT -5
Welp, don't love that. Seriously, someone talk me into this. How are 10 Nathan Eovaldi starts worth six-plus years of Jalen Beeks? Isnt Eovaldi on contract for next season too? |
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Post by atzar on Jul 25, 2018 9:57:22 GMT -5
Whoa. Well then.
Management must not think much of Beeks.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 25, 2018 9:59:09 GMT -5
Welp, don't love that. Seriously, someone talk me into this. How are 10 Nathan Eovaldi starts worth six-plus years of Jalen Beeks? Isnt Eovaldi on contract for next season too? No, he is a FA. |
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Post by sibbysisti on Jul 25, 2018 9:59:27 GMT -5
Welp, don't love that. Seriously, someone talk me into this. How are 10 Nathan Eovaldi starts worth six-plus years of Jalen Beeks? Team is going all out this season. Beeks failed to impress in his ML appearances although he had minor league success. |
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Post by nomar on Jul 25, 2018 9:59:31 GMT -5
Yuck.
Can’t wait for Jalen Beeks to beat the Red Sox more times than Eovaldi even makes appearances for us over the next 6 years.
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Post by mckeonam on Jul 25, 2018 10:00:23 GMT -5
Does this push Pomeranz or Johnson to the pen? I could see a phantom DL spot for Joe Kelly to make room but I am not sold on the idea we trade a guy like Beeks for Eovaldi if he isn't starting.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 25, 2018 10:03:04 GMT -5
So it won't be long before the Red Sox will be back to the Kyle Kendricks and Aaron Cook type of spot starts that require 40 man moves for every game they pitch in.
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Post by atzar on Jul 25, 2018 10:04:45 GMT -5
So Eovaldi's ERA is 4.28 (and FIP agrees with that number) through 10 starts despite having a WHIP below 1. How does that even happen? Just a ton of HRs?
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Post by kevfc89 on Jul 25, 2018 10:05:01 GMT -5
stupid
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Post by kevfc89 on Jul 25, 2018 10:05:47 GMT -5
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 25, 2018 10:06:17 GMT -5
Not a fan. Throwing away a young, controllable starting option for a average at best pitcher for three or so months. Beeks had the shortest of auditions and threw better than many gave him credit for. The Rays won this trade in my opinion.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jul 25, 2018 10:07:36 GMT -5
Finances may have played a part in this. Eovaldi costs only two million this season which will be pro rated. Had 14 wins with Yanks a few seasons back and threw a shutout recently.
Good depth move.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 25, 2018 10:07:55 GMT -5
I don't love the trade but they did need a starter for the rest of the year and at least it wasn't one of their starting prospects with a higher ceiling like Houck or Mata. Then again the deadline hasn't passed and I would think they will still be on the hunt for a reliever. Hopefully this ends up being one of those deals where we say well I guess DD and crew evaluated Beeks correctly as nothing more than a AAAA type of guy.
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 25, 2018 10:08:19 GMT -5
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 25, 2018 10:08:46 GMT -5
Eovaldi was the best rental starter on the market, easily. If the Yankees want to compete now, they're going to have to deal Sheffield for a guy with years of control, I think.
It's almost like we faked them out by forcing them to focus on Britton. As of right now, they're going to have a historically great ability to hold onto a 1- or 2-run deficit.
I think Beeks will be an MLB starter but I'm trusting DDo on this one, that he projects to be a #4 (as most scouts still have him), and those guys are common.
I'm gong to update my jxwOBA numbers for the Sox and Yankees starters.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 25, 2018 10:09:48 GMT -5
This makes perfect sense (and the protests are perfectly predictable). Eovaldi has more value this season than Beeks, and we have traded Beeks' likely though uncertain future value to maximize our chances of winning this year. Seriously, didn't you think an OK starting pitcher was going to cost more than this?
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Post by ponch73 on Jul 25, 2018 10:14:25 GMT -5
Yuck. Can’t wait for Jalen Beeks to beat the Red Sox more times than Eovaldi even makes appearances for us over the next 6 years. Did you actually see Beeks pitch this year? Sometimes, great AAA numbers don't translate to the Big Leagues. I hope the Sox get to bat against Beeks a lot over the next 6 years, although I suspect he won't be spending that much time in the Majors. |
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Post by kevfc89 on Jul 25, 2018 10:17:38 GMT -5
so now the guy who led AAA with a 33% K-rate is a scrub
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 25, 2018 10:18:34 GMT -5
Yuck. Can’t wait for Jalen Beeks to beat the Red Sox more times than Eovaldi even makes appearances for us over the next 6 years. Did you actually see Beeks pitch this year? Sometimes, great AAA numbers don't translate to the Big Leagues. I hope the Sox get to bat against Beeks a lot over the next 6 years, although I suspect he won't be spending that much time in the Majors. I wouldn't put that much emphasis on 2 starts where he had awful BABIP luck. |
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Post by ponch73 on Jul 25, 2018 10:25:11 GMT -5
Did you actually see Beeks pitch this year? Sometimes, great AAA numbers don't translate to the Big Leagues. I hope the Sox get to bat against Beeks a lot over the next 6 years, although I suspect he won't be spending that much time in the Majors. I wouldn't put that much emphasis on 2 starts where he had awful BABIP luck. He only had 1 start. Second appearance was in relief. And I wouldn't characterize 9 runs in just over 6 innings pitched as "awful BABIP luck." Mediocre stuff plus poor location is a bad combination. Maybe he figures it out in Tampa, and replicates his AAA performance at the MLB level. Like DD, I'd take the under on that. |
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Post by jdb on Jul 25, 2018 10:27:52 GMT -5
I like it. I’d trust him more in the post season than Pomeranz. Come Sept maybe Pom and E Rod could help out in the pen and this kills two birds.
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