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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 7, 2018 21:37:14 GMT -5
98 mph to the pitcher ends the inning. Harder than everything except Bregman's single last inning. Than that hit by mccan. Its super annoying
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 7, 2018 21:38:22 GMT -5
and that by springer
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 7, 2018 21:39:13 GMT -5
98 mph to the pitcher ends the inning. Harder than everything except Bregman's single last inning. Than that hit by mccan. Its super annoying 87 and 86 mph for the two hits this inning.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 7, 2018 21:39:23 GMT -5
David Price being this good (for a while) against the Astros is the biggest thing we can take from this game. We're absolutely going to need top Price in the post-season.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 7, 2018 21:39:57 GMT -5
Two very nice picks by swihart just saying.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 7, 2018 21:40:00 GMT -5
Thornburg just continuing to ensure there is no place for him on the playoff roster.
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Post by bosox on Sept 7, 2018 21:41:20 GMT -5
98 mph to the pitcher ends the inning. Harder than everything except Bregman's single last inning. Just curious, do you have the mph on that ball hit to Nunez that he missed when Price was in?
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 7, 2018 21:42:56 GMT -5
98 mph to the pitcher ends the inning. Harder than everything except Bregman's single last inning. Just curious, do you have the mph on that ball hit to Nunez that he missed when Price was in? 95 mph and it was ABSOLUTELY a play that should have been made
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 7, 2018 21:46:34 GMT -5
The Astros just come to play the Sox. The only pitcher that seems have success against them is Price.
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Post by bosox on Sept 7, 2018 21:46:48 GMT -5
Just curious, do you have the mph on that ball hit to Nunez that he missed when Price was in? 95 mph and it was ABSOLUTELY a play that should have been made Agreed. It looked like it was smoked but a good third baseman makes that play.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 7, 2018 21:51:47 GMT -5
Oh well.
This is a good team we're playing but to me, not as scary as 2 months ago because Verlander, Morton and Keuchel have all been struggling the second half.
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 7, 2018 21:53:39 GMT -5
low-key I hadn't realized the extent of Moreland's collapse. He's now sitting at a 101 wRC+, a 0.7 fWAR. We're only going to get about 1 WAR out of him this year despite his blistering start.
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Post by 75tillnow on Sept 7, 2018 21:54:49 GMT -5
Looking ahead I am not at all sure we will be playing Houston. I can easily see the Indians beating them, and the A's beating the Yanks. Playoff baseball is unpredictable, and anything can happen. Right now we are not playing at our best. But maybe in October we will be. Houston and Cleveland are good enough to beat us -- the A's and Yanks not as much. Who knows. We have to wait and see. That's baseyball! What a great sport.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 7, 2018 21:56:38 GMT -5
Oh well. This is a good team we're playing but to me, not as scary as 2 months ago because Verlander, Morton and Keuchel have all been struggling the second half. Agreed - we played on a level with them but had anther regrettable bullpen collapse. Top of the line up seems to be fine (except Moreland - ouch). Kelly, Pomeranz and Thornburg not reliable pen material - hope Cora can figure the pen out over the last 20 games.
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Post by radiohix on Sept 7, 2018 21:58:15 GMT -5
Oh well. This is a good team we're playing but to me, not as scary as 2 months ago because Verlander, Morton and Keuchel have all been struggling the second half. Honestly even when their starters were beasting the AL, I felt like we could've won the first 2 games in Houston. Also, if Kinsler/Bogey came up with a double play on that Altuve grouder it would've changed the whole game. We'll get them next time.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 7, 2018 22:06:41 GMT -5
I'd flip flop Moreland and JBJ in the order. I'm also guessing Moreland's knee needs rest. Could be why the Sox called up Travis and Phillips took grounders at first.
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 7, 2018 22:25:23 GMT -5
Barnes was unavailable due to hip soreness, if people were wondering why Kelly over Barnes.
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 7, 2018 22:27:07 GMT -5
Barney was unavailable with left hip inflammation
Barns*
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 7, 2018 22:30:07 GMT -5
Such a deflating loss for me. It looked like Kelly was reverting back to the guy in the beginning of the year and then this happens. Maybe you chalk it up as a bad week for Brasier recently, but you're down to 4 relievers maybe that you feel comfortable with in the late innings. One of them might be a starter in Eovaldi. Between Wright, Barnes, and Brasier that's it. Maybe you bring in Hembree in middle leverage and he gets the job done against the bottom of the order.
I mean really, how can you trust Kelly in a big spot when he's the most unpredictable pitcher ever. You don't know if he's going to blow up or be great from one game to the next.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 7, 2018 22:38:26 GMT -5
That game is what I worry about.
If the Sox play the Astros they certainly won't have the better bullpen. And it showed today.
I want no part of Joe Kelly in high leverage or any leverage really. I've seen his act way too many times. I just hope Barnes will be alright, but if he isn't, that would be problematic and it would underscore why you never really have enough relief pitching.
Price pitched his heart out for 6 innings but facing good pitching the Sox could only give him a couple of runs to work with and as soon as he started to run out of gas the bullpen torched his game.
Brasier has pitched well so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but Kelly doesn't get that from me.
I just hope the Sox season doesn't get undermined by their bullpen that lacks high leverage quality depth. Because in the post-season the Sox are going to face better bullpens so we won't be able to play the "they're the 3rd or 4th best pen in the league" card and comebacks will be tougher to come by.
The Astros pen is strong although their strategy of trading for a scumbag closer is not one I'd endorse.
Just curious, has Mitch Moreland had a hit at all since the All-Star break? I'm exaggerating, but not by a ton. He's been terrible in the second half again. They need him to start hitting again. I haven't heard anybody talking about why he might be struggling.
All I can say is if the Sox get past the Yankees/A's in the ALDS I hope the Indians can upset the Astros (Not that the Indians are any picnic - but the Astros are REALLY good and they scare the crap out of me with their pitching staff.)
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 7, 2018 22:54:52 GMT -5
That game is what I worry about. If the Sox play the Astros they certainly won't have the better bullpen. And it showed today. I want no part of Joe Kelly in high leverage or any leverage really. I've seen his act way too many times. I just hope Barnes will be alright, but if he isn't, that would be problematic and it would underscore why you never really have enough relief pitching. Price pitched his heart out for 6 innings but facing good pitching the Sox could only give him a couple of runs to work with and as soon as he started to run out of gas the bullpen torched his game. Brasier has pitched well so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but Kelly doesn't get that from me. I just hope the Sox season doesn't get undermined by their bullpen that lacks high leverage quality depth. Because in the post-season the Sox are going to face better bullpens so we won't be able to play the "they're the 3rd or 4th best pen in the league" card and comebacks will be tougher to come by. The Astros pen is strong although their strategy of trading for a scumbag closer is not one I'd endorse. Just curious, has Mitch Moreland had a hit at all since the All-Star break? I'm exaggerating, but not by a ton. He's been terrible in the second half again. They need him to start hitting again. I haven't heard anybody talking about why he might be struggling. All I can say is if the Sox get past the Yankees/A's in the ALDS I hope the Indians can upset the Astros (Not that the Indians are any picnic - but the Astros are REALLY good and they scare the crap out of me with their pitching staff.) Moreland by the month April .321 - 3 - 13 May .300 - 5 - 14 June .261 - 3 - 13 July .186 - 1 - 8 August .205 - 3 - 18 Sept .125 - 0 - 0 So he started falling off the cliff in mid July. Lots of RBIs in August - but it is a big dropoff
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 7, 2018 23:35:25 GMT -5
Yeah I don't know what to think of Moreland yet either (as in I don't know what the Sox should do with him) if he's limping into the postseason. He simply can't play at all if he's banged up. He went through the same thing last year.
Cora might be better served going with Pearce more often than not in the postseason if Moreland is in fact hurt, but I don't know if he will. He's a player's manager.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 7, 2018 23:48:23 GMT -5
That game is what I worry about. If the Sox play the Astros they certainly won't have the better bullpen. And it showed today. I want no part of Joe Kelly in high leverage or any leverage really. I've seen his act way too many times. I just hope Barnes will be alright, but if he isn't, that would be problematic and it would underscore why you never really have enough relief pitching. Price pitched his heart out for 6 innings but facing good pitching the Sox could only give him a couple of runs to work with and as soon as he started to run out of gas the bullpen torched his game. Brasier has pitched well so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but Kelly doesn't get that from me. I just hope the Sox season doesn't get undermined by their bullpen that lacks high leverage quality depth. Because in the post-season the Sox are going to face better bullpens so we won't be able to play the "they're the 3rd or 4th best pen in the league" card and comebacks will be tougher to come by. The Astros pen is strong although their strategy of trading for a scumbag closer is not one I'd endorse. Just curious, has Mitch Moreland had a hit at all since the All-Star break? I'm exaggerating, but not by a ton. He's been terrible in the second half again. They need him to start hitting again. I haven't heard anybody talking about why he might be struggling. All I can say is if the Sox get past the Yankees/A's in the ALDS I hope the Indians can upset the Astros (Not that the Indians are any picnic - but the Astros are REALLY good and they scare the crap out of me with their pitching staff.) Moreland by the month April .321 - 3 - 13 May .300 - 5 - 14 June .261 - 3 - 13 July .186 - 1 - 8 August .205 - 3 - 18 Sept .125 - 0 - 0 So he started falling off the cliff in mid July. Lots of RBIs in August - but it is a big dropoff He pretty much did that last season too? Last year the nosedive was chalked up to a toe issue. OK. What is this year's reason? And does it even matter? They need somebody to step up and give them some offense at 1b. Pearce might be able to do that, although him playing a lot against righties isn't ideal. Moreland really needs to snap out of this.
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Post by costpet on Sept 8, 2018 6:16:32 GMT -5
I have a rule: If Kelly comes in to pitch, I shut the TV off for about 15 minutes and go do something else. Then turn it back on to see the damage.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 8, 2018 9:27:17 GMT -5
nice 4pm start time. Get this one today !!!
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