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Post by jimed14 on Sept 26, 2018 13:05:34 GMT -5
The ball is carrying to LF which is something that just about never happens in Fenway anymore since they built the upper deck behind home plate. The box score lists the wind as 20 mph out to LF. It's blowing out, but Price was missing location badly I wasn't talking about Price. I was talking about the weather.
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Post by caseytins on Sept 26, 2018 13:06:13 GMT -5
I guess you're as good at Price in terms of making excuses. I trust my judgement. Personal insults instead making actual points. Good job dude That is not an insult. Please don't be so sensitive.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 26, 2018 13:08:41 GMT -5
Personal insults instead making actual points. Good job dude That is not an insult. Please don't be so sensitive. You bought up luck. So I countered your lucky argument by pointing out prices bad luck in that inning. Instead of making an actual point you decided to take a personal shot.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 26, 2018 13:11:08 GMT -5
He's pitching against the Orioles' AAA lineup and was very lucky to get out of that inning. He's not looking good this afternoon at all so far. I guess ur gonna overlook 350 ft hr being lucky I get your point, but that is his 4th 325 or whatever foot HR given up in his last 6 or 7 innings and it's attached to walks as well. I mean if a Red Sox player wraps one 305 feet around the pesky pole, is everybody here saying "what a lucky HR" or are we celebrating the HR? After all, it counts the same whether it's 350 feet or 450 feet at that point, isn't it? Anyways, way to go Mookie!!! 30-30, along with his batting title, is quite an impressive feat and should be the final thing that cements his MVP award. I can't imagine anybody else winning that award now. Now there's no reason for Mookie to steal any bases the remainder of the regular season. No reason to risk getting hurt.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 26, 2018 13:12:39 GMT -5
A hr is a hr I agree with that point. The poster bought up luck but overlooked bad luck. That’s my only point
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 26, 2018 13:16:38 GMT -5
I guess ur gonna overlook 350 ft hr being lucky I get your point, but that is his 4th 325 or whatever foot HR given up in his last 6 or 7 innings and it's attached to walks as well. I mean if a Red Sox player wraps one 305 feet around the pesky pole, is everybody here saying "what a lucky HR" or are we celebrating the HR? After all, it counts the same whether it's 350 feet or 450 feet at that point, isn't it? Yes, lucky home runs are lucky. We still celebrate, but we don't expect it to happen often. I mean hard hit balls are much more likely to be home runs. Mancini's HR was blasted. I doubt Nunez's HR even hits the wall on some days. If you're trying to predict the future, I'd be much more confident in a pitcher that gives up a bunch of lucky home runs than someone who is giving up tons of hard contact while not giving up home runs.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 26, 2018 13:17:53 GMT -5
Price was def lucky that inning lol
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Post by caseytins on Sept 26, 2018 13:17:59 GMT -5
The wind is blowing out, yes. Price walked three guys in the second inning and is getting rocked by an awful Orioles lineup. Good thing he was just bailed out of that inning. When the Yankees hit 325' HR's off of Price, it doesn't create a valid excuse for him. He knows the dimensions of the park that he is dealing with before the game starts. I want him to pitch well, but personally, I have much more faith in E-Rod as a starter in the postseason.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 26, 2018 13:21:29 GMT -5
I get your point, but that is his 4th 325 or whatever foot HR given up in his last 6 or 7 innings and it's attached to walks as well. I mean if a Red Sox player wraps one 305 feet around the pesky pole, is everybody here saying "what a lucky HR" or are we celebrating the HR? After all, it counts the same whether it's 350 feet or 450 feet at that point, isn't it? Yes, lucky home runs are lucky. We still celebrate, but we don't expect it to happen often. I mean hard hit balls are much more likely to be home runs. Mancini's HR was blasted. I doubt Nunez's HR even hits the wall on some days. If you're trying to predict the future, I'd be much more confident in a pitcher that gives up a bunch of lucky home runs than someone who is giving up tons of hard contact while not giving up home runs. JimEd, I understand that the harder the ball is hit, the further that it's hit, the odds are..... I get it. I also understand that individual games themselves are such small sample sizes, bleep happens. Things don't always even out the way they should in all probability. As far as Price goes and those 350 feet HRs, I'll direct quote Price himself (the one thing he says that I really like and appreciate): "If you don't like it, pitch better."
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 26, 2018 13:22:54 GMT -5
Yes, lucky home runs are lucky. We still celebrate, but we don't expect it to happen often. I mean hard hit balls are much more likely to be home runs. Mancini's HR was blasted. I doubt Nunez's HR even hits the wall on some days. If you're trying to predict the future, I'd be much more confident in a pitcher that gives up a bunch of lucky home runs than someone who is giving up tons of hard contact while not giving up home runs. JimEd, I understand that the harder the ball is hit, the further that it's hit, the odds are..... I get it. I also understand that individual games themselves are such small sample sizes, bleep happens. Things don't always even out the way they should in all probability. As far as Price goes and those 350 feet HRs, I'll direct quote Price himself (the one thing he says that I really like and appreciate): "If you don't like it, pitch better." He won't be giving up those kinds of home runs at the rate he has been giving them up. It is almost statistically impossible.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 26, 2018 13:24:42 GMT -5
JimEd, I understand that the harder the ball is hit, the further that it's hit, the odds are..... I get it. I also understand that individual games themselves are such small sample sizes, bleep happens. Things don't always even out the way they should in all probability. As far as Price goes and those 350 feet HRs, I'll direct quote Price himself (the one thing he says that I really like and appreciate): "If you don't like it, pitch better." He won't be giving up those kinds of home runs at the rate he has been giving them up. It is almost statistically impossible. I'd hope not. I'd hope he's getting it out of his system now because I don't want to hear about that stuff in a week when the games really count.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 26, 2018 13:28:55 GMT -5
Much better inning by price.
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Post by caseytins on Sept 26, 2018 13:36:19 GMT -5
I want to see Mookie get to .350
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Post by caseytins on Sept 26, 2018 13:38:42 GMT -5
CRUSHED!!!
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 26, 2018 13:39:05 GMT -5
Smoked! 404
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Post by ianrs on Sept 26, 2018 13:44:15 GMT -5
Yeah, Mookie is not trying to lose MVP again.
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 26, 2018 13:55:13 GMT -5
Mookie should easily be over 10 fWAR after today. So far, he's got a single, walk, SB, outfield assist, and a double! really padding his stats everywhere
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 26, 2018 13:58:30 GMT -5
I’m actually encouraged by Price’s start. He had one bad inning and recovered nicely.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 26, 2018 14:04:41 GMT -5
Here's the scoop on Price's start, in my opinion (and I am not watching - listening to mlb.com in the car, now at home)
Price had a fine first inning. Then the Sox had a long bottom of the first - batted around. Price sat for a LONG time after pitching a short inning. It isn't surprising that he lost the plate in the second - he found it again and it all worked out fine.
It was a good effort - this is actually an ideal warm up/end of the season game where our big hitters hit, some of them hit or are approaching big milestones, and we will have four more games for Cora to find out about his pen.
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Post by caseytins on Sept 26, 2018 14:16:06 GMT -5
Price bounced back nicely. He wasn't sharp in the 3rd inning either, but the defense bailed him out. He pitched much better in the 4th and 5th innings, facing the bottom half of the Orioles' lineup.
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Post by orion09 on Sept 26, 2018 14:16:09 GMT -5
So, interesting tidbit:
This looks like it’s going to be the rare season in which no hitter reaches the 200 hit plateau, and it doesn’t look like it will be close. (Freddie Freeman currently at 187 and Mookie with 186 including today, with 4 games left to play.)
Especially interesting considering our batting champ (Mookie) is pushing .350 - I can’t remember a batting champ with an average anywhere near that high without 200 hits.
The last season in the which no hitter reached 200 was 2013, but Adrian Beltre and Matt Carpenter both had 199. Before that, we have to go back to 1995, when the MLB leaders were Dante Bichette and Tony Gwynn (197). Before that, not including strike-shortened 1994, Brett Butler and Lenny Dykstra had 192 in 1990.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 26, 2018 14:22:16 GMT -5
So, interesting tidbit: This looks like it’s going to be the rare season in which no hitter reaches the 200 hit plateau, and it doesn’t look like it will be close. (Freddie Freeman currently at 187 and Mookie with 186 including today, with 4 games left to play.) Especially interesting considering our batting champ (Mookie) is pushing .350 - I can’t remember a batting champ with an average anywhere near that high without 200 hits. The last season in the which no hitter reached 200 was 2013, but Adrian Beltre and Matt Carpenter both had 199. Before that, we have to go back to 1995, when the MLB leaders were Dante Bichette and Tony Gwynn (197). Before that, not including strike-shortened 1994, Brett Butler and Lenny Dykstra had 192 in 1990. if Mookie played his typical 150+ games, we would be there for sure. But yes - we are largely in the HR/K era of all or nothing. We are lucky to have it both ways with many of our young stars!
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 26, 2018 14:24:26 GMT -5
Barry Bonds won his batting titles (.370 in '02 and .362 in '04) with 149 and 135 hits.
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Post by kevfc89 on Sept 26, 2018 14:24:57 GMT -5
and there's Xander's 100th rbi
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 26, 2018 14:25:06 GMT -5
wow- my rest of season to-do list is getting filled in really well today!
also worth noting how Devers RBI total is really climbing despite injuries and sitting lots. He is getting hot at the perfect time.
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