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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Oct 26, 2018 18:06:03 GMT -5
IMO, the Sox are facing a huge decision when it comes to Sale this offseason. He is entering the last year of his team-friendly contract and is due for an astronomical raise. History hasn't served too well when it's come to signing pitchers on the wrong side of 30, but not re-signing a certified ace is a tough call to make. If they happen to win the world series, I wouldn't be too upset if they quietly shopped him over the winter. What's everybody's thoughts on what to do with Sale?
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Post by jiant2520 on Oct 26, 2018 18:28:53 GMT -5
I mentioned this a week ago in another thread, and agree in that it is a big decision. Perhaps a trade is best and I would be open to the idea... if it brought back a good young pitcher ready to play next year and a top prospect, along with a good young controllable reliever. Not sure who is ready to pay Sale and give up the goods too....
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Post by dmaineah on Oct 26, 2018 19:37:52 GMT -5
I say pitch him and get all you can get out of him next year. Then let him walk. He'll be hurt, let someone else sign him then lose him to surgery.
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Post by michael on Oct 27, 2018 23:04:25 GMT -5
I say pitch him and get all you can get out of him next year. Then let him walk. He'll be hurt, let someone else sign him then lose him to surgery. I'd suggest exactly what you said but add make the qualifying offer. |
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Post by tookme55 on Oct 28, 2018 7:17:11 GMT -5
We don't have to do anything this winter.
We pick up his option at $13.5M for 2019 and let it play it out.
My guess is DD will want to go for it again in 2019. Why would you trade Sale at this point?
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Post by jiant2520 on Oct 29, 2018 10:21:56 GMT -5
We don't have to do anything this winter. We pick up his option at $13.5M for 2019 and let it play it out. My guess is DD will want to go for it again in 2019. Why would you trade Sale at this point? I don't think you trade him now, I would only consider it at the July deadline... depending on how things are going. Same with all our of possible trade candidates. Most of this team is back, so go for it again. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 30, 2018 13:06:31 GMT -5
The Red Sox have officially picked up Chris Sale's option for 2019.
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Post by gerry on Oct 30, 2018 13:10:11 GMT -5
The Red Sox have officially picked up Chris Sale's option for 2019. Great news. That’s the first piece in reconstructing this championship puzzle. Huzzah. We will know on Price in a few days. Do the FA’s have the same deadline? |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 1, 2018 9:21:11 GMT -5
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Post by tookme55 on Nov 1, 2018 9:26:16 GMT -5
I'd say go ahead and sign Pearce to 2 yr, $10M type deal. All position players will return.
Next focus on Eovaldi and a closer not named Kimbrel.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 1, 2018 9:27:00 GMT -5
Why did you post that in this thread? Sale is under contract next year. |
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Post by tookme55 on Nov 1, 2018 9:28:58 GMT -5
Why did you post that in this thread? Sale is under contract next year. I'm not sure if he realized Sox had the team option to sign him for 2019. Maybe he thought he was a free agent. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 1, 2018 9:45:14 GMT -5
Why did you post that in this thread? Sale is under contract next year. The post before mine asked: "Do the FA’s have the same deadline?" Sorry, I should have quoted. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 10, 2018 19:32:51 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Dec 10, 2018 21:40:33 GMT -5
I'd say go ahead and sign Pearce to 2 yr, $10M type deal. All position players will return. Next focus on Eovaldi and a closer not named Kimbrel. Looks like Dave listened. |
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Post by Guidas on Dec 11, 2018 12:55:04 GMT -5
Abraham's piece sounds a bit more ominous on Sale www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/12/11/snotes/EmAxP4wCCDZiHqnj4WWvZP/story.html?et_rid=1826507337&s_campaign=108stitches:newsletterSome of the quotes: But president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski was oddly vague when asked Monday if the team had a better idea of what Sale was dealing with.
“Yes, we have. We have a pulse of it,” Dombrowski said. “But I’m really not going to discuss it.”
That suggests an injury beyond the “inflammation” the Sox said twice put Sale on the disabled list. But Sale has directed the team not to provide details about his health.Also this: “I don’t know as far as usage is concerned. It’s just maybe the way some things are approached. With us; by him,” Dombrowski said. “I’m really not going to get too specific. I can’t really say much more.”
Said manager Alex Cora: “We know what we have. We know what we’re going to do next year.”[/b] [/i] |
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Post by gerry on Dec 11, 2018 13:06:31 GMT -5
Abraham's piece sounds a bit more ominous on Sale www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/12/11/snotes/EmAxP4wCCDZiHqnj4WWvZP/story.html?et_rid=1826507337&s_campaign=108stitches:newsletterSome of the quotes: But president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski was oddly vague when asked Monday if the team had a better idea of what Sale was dealing with.
“Yes, we have. We have a pulse of it,” Dombrowski said. “But I’m really not going to discuss it.”
That suggests an injury beyond the “inflammation” the Sox said twice put Sale on the disabled list. But Sale has directed the team not to provide details about his health.Also this: “I don’t know as far as usage is concerned. It’s just maybe the way some things are approached. With us; by him,” Dombrowski said. “I’m really not going to get too specific. I can’t really say much more.”
Said manager Alex Cora: “We know what we have. We know what we’re going to do next year.”[/b] [/i] [/quote] Surprised at Pete Abe. Dombrowski was clear in that interview that the silence about the shoulder is at the request of Sale himself. HIPPA laws are pretty draconian. At the very least, Sale’s request for privacy on the matter should be respected, which DDo appears to be doing. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 15, 2018 21:23:28 GMT -5
Abraham's piece sounds a bit more ominous on Sale www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/12/11/snotes/EmAxP4wCCDZiHqnj4WWvZP/story.html?et_rid=1826507337&s_campaign=108stitches:newsletterSome of the quotes: But president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski was oddly vague when asked Monday if the team had a better idea of what Sale was dealing with.
“Yes, we have. We have a pulse of it,” Dombrowski said. “But I’m really not going to discuss it.”
That suggests an injury beyond the “inflammation” the Sox said twice put Sale on the disabled list. But Sale has directed the team not to provide details about his health.Also this: “I don’t know as far as usage is concerned. It’s just maybe the way some things are approached. With us; by him,” Dombrowski said. “I’m really not going to get too specific. I can’t really say much more.”
Said manager Alex Cora: “We know what we have. We know what we’re going to do next year.”
Surprised at Pete Abe. Dombrowski was clear in that interview that the silence about the shoulder is at the request of Sale himself. HIPPA laws are pretty draconian. At the very least, Sale’s request for privacy on the matter should be respected, which DDo appears to be doing. Sale's request for privacy in the matter suggests that there is an injury beyond the inflammation. He's 100 percent correct. |
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Post by daltonjones on Dec 15, 2018 21:43:19 GMT -5
(worked in the area; while Draconian on paper, HIPPA laws are almost never enforced)
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 15, 2018 23:06:55 GMT -5
I doubt if the HIPPA laws are the motivation or even a consideration.
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Post by sparkygian on Dec 16, 2018 0:36:16 GMT -5
It's a little discomforting knowing that Sale is definitely beginning to show signs of being fragile, and can't seem to make it all the way through a season anymore. Hopefully next year he bounces back. Then they've got D. Price, the highest paid player on the team looking battle-worn, and imo someone who's definitely showing signs of arm being worn-out and susceptible to injury. Hopefully his '18 postseason showing will be the Price we see in '19. Eovaldi is already a known quantity, as far as having a pretty extensive injury history. Even young E. Rod already has an injury history that's kept him from pitching all the way through a full season so far. Wright is totally unreliable as far as whether he'll be healthy next season. I'm glad the Sox have Porcello.
A bit of bad luck, and Sox could be down a few starters next season to injury. Sox need to figure out how to get some of the pitching coaches, or scouts from Atlanta Braves to try to revamp Sox farm's lackluster showing when it comes to developing quality starting pitching, LOL. Seriously though, it's been quite awhile (Bucholz?) since Sox have developed a quality starter. It definitely puts a strain on the payroll when a team isn't able to develop young, inexpensive, quality starting pitching of their own. I'm not counting E. Rod as a Sox system product, and B. Johnson has fringe talent, even though he's shown good capability of holding his own so far. Of course Beeks had potential, and is now with Tampa. I'm missing Logan Allen. Terrible that many thought that he was a superfluous add-on by DD to Padres.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 16, 2018 0:43:50 GMT -5
You cherish those memories and say man we'll always have that time he went nuts at the dugout and we won a World Series. Then you let him go because that arm is getting FUBAR in the near future.
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Post by ericmvan on Dec 16, 2018 3:40:40 GMT -5
Surprised at Pete Abe. Dombrowski was clear in that interview that the silence about the shoulder is at the request of Sale himself. HIPPA laws are pretty draconian. At the very least, Sale’s request for privacy on the matter should be respected, which DDo appears to be doing. Sale's request for privacy in the matter suggests that there is an injury beyond the inflammation. He's 100 percent correct. Actually, it's more consistent with the realization that the inflammation is a chronic condition that is very likely to plague him going forward, and Cora's "we know what we're going to do" = baby him even more, like giving him 5 days rest almost all of the time, and sometimes 6. |
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Post by gerry on Dec 16, 2018 4:21:20 GMT -5
Sale's request for privacy in the matter suggests that there is an injury beyond the inflammation. He's 100 percent correct. Actually, it's more consistent with the realization that the inflammation is a chronic condition that is very likely to plague him going forward, and Cora's "we know what we're going to do" = baby him even more, like giving him 5 days rest almost all of the time, and sometimes 6. Perhaps at some levels HIPPA is not being rigidly enforced, but I know of several practices and medical centers that were tied up in financial and staffing knots about it. After several years of changing systems and re-training personnel from Docs to Housekeeping,’maybe the kinks have been worked out, maybe there’s not much to enforce anymore. But it is still a tough law, and penalties, if levied, are painful. Though he isn’t medical staff, I think Cora could, in such a public forum, get nailed by it. And to Eric’s point, I am almost certain that Sale pitches better with a day or two of extra rest, and always has. Some kind of 6-man rotation suits him perfectly. Don’t know about the other guys anymore. |
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Post by tnyankee556 on Dec 16, 2018 5:42:07 GMT -5
Looking past 2019, is Sale really a good investment for a long term contract or do we walk away from him like we did with Beckett?
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