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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 8, 2018 9:42:01 GMT -5
Realmuto post exhibition game interview. Look at the stands, the people are still seated:
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 8, 2018 9:54:47 GMT -5
At this point, bench coach is a pretty clear promotion from hitting coach, right? It's basically assistant manager. So I don't see leaving for a promotion as being strange. Jeff Albert taking the Cardinals hitting coach job instead of an internal promotion is a little bit weirder, but he also had a long history with the Cardinals before going to Houston.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 8, 2018 10:07:24 GMT -5
It's the mass exodus, some before they had other jobs. Mike Fast was just hired today by the Braves.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 8, 2018 10:10:10 GMT -5
Yeah, the front office stuff I agree with. The field staff moves seem like the usual offseason machinations to me though.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 8, 2018 10:17:23 GMT -5
Even that part seems strange for a team that just won 103 games and made it to the ALCS.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 8, 2018 10:23:23 GMT -5
If Hudgens wants to be a manager at some point, it make sense for him to line up a bench coaching gig. It doesn't look like Espada will get a manager job this year (and the Orioles are the only vacancy, and only a crazy person would want that job), so there's not really an internal option for him.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 8, 2018 10:45:35 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 8, 2018 11:27:52 GMT -5
Rumor has it, Boras is seeking a 35 year deal for Harper. "He's a two-generational talent." he said.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 8, 2018 11:32:42 GMT -5
nypost.com/2018/11/07/scott-boras-why-a-300-million-bryce-harper-offer-wasnt-close/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueMeanwhile, Harper and Boras just keep piling on why he's going to have zero value soon. “They did not pay anywhere near [Harper’s] $400 million to $500 million in [true value],” Boras said. “This has been great value and is great value.” Yeap. Sure Boras. The guy who's had one HOF type of year so far is a "generational player." He's a great player, but if he gets 400 or even 500 million, then that would be insane. We will see you in February with no decision made yet because baseball free agency of course. Honestly, I don't see Harper as deserving $1 more than JD Martinez, at least in AAV. I mentioned this somewhere else, but I don't see the Boras magic from 5-10 years ago where he just makes up a narrative and a number and waits for someone to flinch. Almost every team is analytics driven, they all do very similar math, and if we can call BS on this "generational talent" nonsense then I don't see any team paying him the $40M+ per year that he seems to want. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he ends up back on the Nationals on a 10/$310M deal with the token raise to save some face. I admit some bias because I don't really like Harper, but do any of you think there's a team that's paying him in the $400-500M range? The Phillies might be desperate enough to pay 350 million for Harper. I don't know, I don't see it either. I agree with you that Harper is more like a 25 million AAV guy. If the price was closer to that, I would even want to see the Sox in on Harper. He won't be though. He will be overpaid by some desperate team trying to build something. The Phillies seem like that team, who knows how far they'll stretch it because of the competition in the bidding process. If the Yankees are truly out on Harper, then it's just the Nationals, Phillies, and maybe LA Dodgers? I could see the Braves inquiring but not getting serious. I can see maybe the White Sox making a offer, but I don't know. Seems pretty limited if the Yankees are out of it.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Nov 8, 2018 11:46:24 GMT -5
nypost.com/2018/11/07/scott-boras-why-a-300-million-bryce-harper-offer-wasnt-close/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueMeanwhile, Harper and Boras just keep piling on why he's going to have zero value soon. “They did not pay anywhere near [Harper’s] $400 million to $500 million in [true value],” Boras said. “This has been great value and is great value.” Yeap. Sure Boras. The guy who's had one HOF type of year so far is a "generational player." He's a great player, but if he gets 400 or even 500 million, then that would be insane. We will see you in February with no decision made yet because baseball free agency of course. I mentioned this somewhere else, but I don't see the Boras magic from 5-10 years ago where he just makes up a narrative and a number and waits for someone to flinch. He did just get $144 million for Eric Hosmer, who just finished a season with below 1 fWar for the FIFTH time in his eight year career.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 8, 2018 12:24:04 GMT -5
Marc Topkin Verified account @tbtimes_Rays Hearing #Rays-#Mariners deal is bigger than Zunino and Heredia for Mallex Smith. #Rays could also get LHP Michael Plassmeyer (‘18 Draftee) and give up OF prospect Jake Fraley in current version. Deal could be announced Thursday. I find Dipoto to be immensely entertaining as a GM. He never sits and waits for anything and is usually the first guy to make a move. I don't know if he's skilled or not at what he does (his work seems rather meh when it comes to finding talent), but entertaining as a fan nonetheless. He made like a million moves last offseason too.
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Post by Guidas on Nov 8, 2018 13:17:47 GMT -5
This is pretty interesting to anyone watching the big spenders. Also makes sense to a certain degree since they brought in Friedman. Not that they want to get to Tampa levels of spending, but being successful without going over the tax is a desired outcome for most owners despite market size. Profit maximization while controlling fixed labor costs and all that mirco-economics 101 stuff. www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-payroll-20181105-story.html
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 8, 2018 14:00:16 GMT -5
This is pretty interesting to anyone watching the big spenders. Also makes sense to a certain degree since they brought in Friedman. Not that they want to get to Tampa levels of spending, but being successful without going over the tax is a desired outcome for most owners despite market size. Profit maximization while controlling fixed labor costs and all that mirco-economics 101 stuff. www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-payroll-20181105-story.htmlIf the Yankees and Dodgers are more worried about profit maximization and the Red Sox are more interested in winning baseball games then all the better. That's the difference between the corporate world and baseball. If you make less money than Apple, you still made a ton of money, it's not a competition in the strictest sense of the term. Teams don't get any awards for being more dollar efficient than the Red Sox if they lose to them. Also, you can bet these statements are going to be exhibit A at the next CBA negotiations that the CBT threshold is acting as a salary cap.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Nov 8, 2018 14:29:54 GMT -5
McCullers getting TJ, sucks for the Astros. They have to replace too many guys on that rotation. The pitching depth is insane. They’ll probably go get some guys, but they could conceivably just use in house options and be just as good next year.
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Post by Guidas on Nov 8, 2018 14:34:44 GMT -5
This is pretty interesting to anyone watching the big spenders. Also makes sense to a certain degree since they brought in Friedman. Not that they want to get to Tampa levels of spending, but being successful without going over the tax is a desired outcome for most owners despite market size. Profit maximization while controlling fixed labor costs and all that mirco-economics 101 stuff. www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-payroll-20181105-story.htmlIf the Yankees and Dodgers are more worried about profit maximization and the Red Sox are more interested in winning baseball games then all the better. That's the difference between the corporate world and baseball. If you make less money than Apple, you still made a ton of money, it's not a competition in the strictest sense of the term. Teams don't get any awards for being more dollar efficient than the Red Sox if they lose to them. Also, you can bet these statements are going to be exhibit A at the next CBA negotiations that the CBT threshold is acting as a salary cap. Completely agree. In fact, I remember commenting to a friend who contended that Oakland and Tampa were really big winners because they were competitive with players who maximized value at much lower costs. My reply to him was that no one went to a game or watched and cheered "Great Value! Great Value! Great Value!" (although that could be a nice troll cheer next time Sox play Tampa, Oakland or any other team where the owner is just pocking the revenue sharing and concessions checks).
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 8, 2018 18:53:44 GMT -5
Bill Shaikin Verified account @billshaikin
The #Dodgers plan on staying under luxury tax threshold for at least the next four years, according to a document prepared for potential investors and reviewed by the Los Angeles Times.
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Post by Gwell55 on Nov 8, 2018 19:51:27 GMT -5
Bill Shaikin Verified account @billshaikin The #Dodgers plan on staying under luxury tax threshold for at least the next four years, according to a document prepared for potential investors and reviewed by the Los Angeles Times. That was wrote prior to 2017 WS ... So does it still apply or has it changed since the two straight WS appearances? "The document was prepared before the 2017 postseason, when the Dodgers generated additional revenue by advancing to the World Series for the first time in 29 years." www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-payroll-20181105-story.html
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Post by rivenp on Nov 8, 2018 20:17:58 GMT -5
The pitching depth is insane. They’ll probably go get some guys, but they could conceivably just use in house options and be just as good next year. that josh james was pretty impressive in relief...looked kinda like a young right-handed david price. and collin mchugh can go back into the starting rotation with the top pitching prospect in baseball forrest whitley waiting in the wings. verlander and cole are still there, so even if they didn't resign keuchel or morton, they're not in panic mode by any means.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 8, 2018 20:25:06 GMT -5
Bill Shaikin Verified account @billshaikin The #Dodgers plan on staying under luxury tax threshold for at least the next four years, according to a document prepared for potential investors and reviewed by the Los Angeles Times. That was wrote prior to 2017 WS ... So does it still apply or has it changed since the two straight WS appearances? "The document was prepared before the 2017 postseason, when the Dodgers generated additional revenue by advancing to the World Series for the first time in 29 years." www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-payroll-20181105-story.htmlI would imagine there has to be pressure to do exactly that in light of MLB's pressure to reduce their debt which also happened in about the same time frame. They stayed under this past year.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 12, 2018 20:33:50 GMT -5
As expected, the only player to accept the Qualifying Offer was Ryu from the Dodgers.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 13, 2018 9:31:33 GMT -5
I read that the Nats could have dealt Harper away to Houston for prospects last season.
The Nats turned it down just like they turned down Herrera to Boston at the deadline.
They were a talented team with a lot of dysfunction. They totally misread their situation. They thought dealing Harper away would make it harder to sign him. Now they realize that 10 years $300 million won't get the job done so they're going to lose him anyways for a lot less than they probably could have gotten for him.
They got nothing out of Herrera and the team floundered, never a factor in the division or wild card race.
Terrible job by the Nationals management.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 13, 2018 9:44:46 GMT -5
They were 5 1/2 games out of first place at the trading deadline. Bryce Harper hit .298/.433/.529 from August 1 on. For that to happen and everything else not come together sucks, but the lesson isn't "they should've traded all of their players." The lesson is that baseball is cruel.
EDIT: And Washington finished with a Pythag of 90-72. Selling at that point would've been unconscionable. It just didn't work out.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Nov 13, 2018 9:46:17 GMT -5
Rod Friedman does some impressive video work. This one is mind boggling.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Nov 13, 2018 10:06:34 GMT -5
They were 5 1/2 games out of first place at the trading deadline. Bryce Harper hit .298/.433/.529 from August 1 on. For that to happen and everything else not come together sucks, but the lesson isn't "they should've traded all of their players." The lesson is that baseball is cruel. EDIT: And Washington finished with a Pythag of 90-72. Selling at that point would've been unconscionable. It just didn't work out. Perhaps so. They were underachievers and their was a lot of dissension on that club. They put a lot of faith in that club and the problem is that the club might not have been trustworthy enough for a lack of a better word to invest in at the expense of their rapidly approaching future. The Nats outfield will be fine without Harper. The sky is the limit for Soto's future and Robles is an exiting prospect and Eaton is a really good player, but all they're going to get for Harper is draft pick compensation. I can only imagine what they could have gotten from Houston. Glad the Sox didn't have to deal with Harper in the playoffs in that lineup. I get your point that they were much more talented than they showed on the playing field. I guess if you watched them everyday it would be hard to have a lot of faith that they'd put themselves together to be a real threat to go to the World Series, which is a shame because on paper.... It's kind of sad in a way because the Nats usually have as talented a team as any other NL team but finish short of where they should finish. In other words, they're kind of an appropriate successor of the Montreal Expos who at their best had a ton of talent but just never could put it all together one season (except for 1994 when they naturally had a strike wipe out their season), just like the Oakland A's have the same legacy as the Philadelphia A's - a franchise that is always short of cash that is either championship boom or a major cellar dweller after they lose their talent. Also kind of sad to see the Orioles re-enact the inept St. Louis Browns that they used to be. They had an amazing legacy that started just before Earl Weaver and ended just after Weaver's first tenure.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 13, 2018 10:26:33 GMT -5
They were 5 1/2 games out of first place at the trading deadline. Bryce Harper hit .298/.433/.529 from August 1 on. For that to happen and everything else not come together sucks, but the lesson isn't "they should've traded all of their players." The lesson is that baseball is cruel. EDIT: And Washington finished with a Pythag of 90-72. Selling at that point would've been unconscionable. It just didn't work out. They had 2 teams in front of them at that point, which would have made things harder to pass one or both. It was a tough call, but I don't think it was the right call to keep Herrera at least. You could have made a case for Harper if you think you could have resigned him. Hindsight is telling them that the prospects would have been more useful at this point rather than a 4th round draft pick because they ended up over the CBT in a year where they didn't even make the playoffs, which was really dumb.
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