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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 11, 2018 17:16:38 GMT -5
Dave Dombrowski has said in the past that extending Xander was a priority. I don't think he's trading him ever.
John Henry has always set a limit on contracts and payroll. He usually has a line he won't go past. He has a long history of doing this here.
Not surprised by the Porcello rumors. This is why I was bringing up the highest payroll in the history of the Red Sox and why it could be a major problem.
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Post by xanderbogaerts2 on Dec 11, 2018 17:23:08 GMT -5
From whats been pieced together is Porcello for reliever with control, Charlie Morton(?) for 2 years. Then JBJ and/or X moved for Prospects/cost controlled assets to "retool" the system (if its worth enough).The key word that keeps being thrown around is control. X and JBJ being Boras clients says a lot about there chances to resign them before and during F/A. Obviously we have half a dozen key players up for F/A within the next 2 years and that we wont be able to keep them all so moving one of these guys is smart but how bad would it hurt the overall chemistry of the team?
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 11, 2018 17:27:52 GMT -5
Hot take: Bradley ends up moved. I mean how often have we heard rumors about him?
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Post by Smittyw on Dec 11, 2018 17:31:02 GMT -5
Hot take: Bradley ends up moved. I mean how often have we heard rumors about him? That will be the greatest day of dmaineah's life.
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Post by jiant2520 on Dec 11, 2018 17:52:22 GMT -5
Man I hope trading those guys is just posturing.
On the other hand, if we are at $240 mil and they wish to stay in the low 240s, we cannot add any relivers unless it in a trade of some sort.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 11, 2018 17:55:13 GMT -5
That will be the greatest day of dmaineah's life. Only if they announce it at the bottom of the 9th and Eovaldi comes in to pitch.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 11, 2018 18:12:05 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 11, 2018 18:25:25 GMT -5
Hot take: Bradley ends up moved. I mean how often have we heard rumors about him? Here is rumor number- 4,421 Don.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 11, 2018 18:31:19 GMT -5
Hot take: Bradley ends up moved. I mean how often have we heard rumors about him? Here is rumor number- 4,421 Don. And Mike Trout is #1 on the Red Sox CF wish list. Wishing is nice, but....reality.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 11, 2018 18:32:42 GMT -5
Yup. He went to the winter trade meetings actually open to listening to what other ballclubs might have in mind for a deal. It's so shocking. And here I thought he was going to twiddle his thumbs.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 11, 2018 18:34:33 GMT -5
Here is rumor number- 4,421 Don. And Mike Trout is #1 on the Red Sox CF wish list. Wishing is nice, but....reality. You trade JBJ and a backup catcher, maybe there's your room to sign a reliever. I don't know. Hazen better be trading serious talent for JBJ. JBJ has more value than Porcello at least if you're looking for the best return.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 11, 2018 19:02:07 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 11, 2018 19:27:50 GMT -5
The longterm look on Devers from Cora.
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Post by drive7 on Dec 11, 2018 20:06:00 GMT -5
Trading Porcello seem like a great move. If they can keep payroll under $240 for the year. According to Ian Cundall the Sox would only get 4th round picks for players with Q.O., instead of 1st round picks if they are over the $240 mark. It would be nice to get back 3 first rounders (plus Porcello's return) for Sale, Martinez and Bogaerts, should they all walk.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 11, 2018 20:12:03 GMT -5
Trading JBJ and Bogaerts could also work if the trades involved multiple teams and the Sox ended up with a cost controlled shortstop and center fielder. DD is clearly in the drivers seat here.
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Post by dirtdog on Dec 11, 2018 20:42:15 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on Dec 11, 2018 20:48:14 GMT -5
Watch, they trade Bogaerts - whom I would rather extend - for some high level prospect then sign Iglesias.
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Post by dirtdog on Dec 11, 2018 20:49:42 GMT -5
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Post by dirtdog on Dec 11, 2018 21:00:46 GMT -5
Watch, they trade Bogaerts - whom I would rather extend - for some high level prospect then sign Iglesias. I think you may be on to something, we'll call it the Boras factor. They will be giving up what we saw last year, I think that is who he actually is as a hitter. About the only negative on his season was he didnt have a great WS, but he had some company there.
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Post by larrycook on Dec 11, 2018 21:06:04 GMT -5
Trading JBJ and Bogaerts could also work if the trades involved multiple teams and the Sox ended up with a cost controlled shortstop and center fielder. DD is clearly in the drivers seat here. Didn’t dd say he would like to have everyone back? Why say that and trade away quality homegrown talent?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Dec 11, 2018 21:27:58 GMT -5
...why start there? From Jun 24th on his OPS was .851 with a line of .282/.349/.502. He hadn't found his groove early in the month. By the all-star break he was cruising.
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Post by Guidas on Dec 11, 2018 21:30:59 GMT -5
...why start there? From Jun 24th on his OPS was .851 with a line of .282/.349/.502. He hadn't found his groove early in the month. By the all-star break he was cruising. Lotta BABIP bad luck, too.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 11, 2018 22:38:53 GMT -5
...why start there? From Jun 24th on his OPS was .851 with a line of .282/.349/.502. He hadn't found his groove early in the month. By the all-star break he was cruising. That's the guy who is 4 win floor.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 11, 2018 23:17:25 GMT -5
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Post by Oregon Norm on Dec 11, 2018 23:19:04 GMT -5
That's a sure thing if he does that over an entire season, instead of a crummy half and a good half. He's a streaky hitter, for sure, but events conspired against him to produce that split. Guidas mentions babip, and the shift was a big part of that. As it is, B Ref had him with over 2 wins despite what was probably a negative first half. I'm certain he's got some good baseball left in him.
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