radiohix
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Post by radiohix on Jun 24, 2019 17:28:36 GMT -5
OMG! This is gold! Thank you for the laugh my brother!
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Post by bosox on Jun 24, 2019 17:45:16 GMT -5
Confusing. So, Radiohix' brother Eddie Romero and Chris Bacerra have a Blind Trust with CDJ?
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 24, 2019 18:22:31 GMT -5
If all of the above is true then former Red Sox infielder Ed Romero is Rafael Devers' grandfather.
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Post by soxfan511 on Jun 24, 2019 18:53:42 GMT -5
Romero and Bacerra have my blind trust at this point As far as I’m concerned every 16-17 yr old international free agent is a scratch ticket. You don’t want to waste money on a bunch of $1 tickets because the payout is kinda meh but buying a bunch of $5 and $10 tickets (Between 50-500k) makes a lot of sense. If you buy $20 ones you’re spending a lot to have less cracks at jackpot While I agree, not getting anyone ranked in the top "30" 2 years in a row is a head scratcher. Some of the International players ranked in the top 5-10 have crazy high ceilings, and I think every other year we should go after a "big name" like we used too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 18:55:06 GMT -5
Okay, unlike some here, I don't know the names of everyone in the Red Sox Front Office.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 25, 2019 3:47:49 GMT -5
I read a few year ago that a lot of teams have stopped scouting Venezuela because of political turmoil and that the teams with native VZ scouts would have an advantage there. I think had Daniel Flores not passed away, that advantage would be a lot more obvious than it is.
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jun 25, 2019 8:00:19 GMT -5
Romero and Bacerra have my blind trust at this point As far as I’m concerned every 16-17 yr old international free agent is a scratch ticket. You don’t want to waste money on a bunch of $1 tickets because the payout is kinda meh but buying a bunch of $5 and $10 tickets (Between 50-500k) makes a lot of sense. If you buy $20 ones you’re spending a lot to have less cracks at jackpot While I agree, not getting anyone ranked in the top "30" 2 years in a row is a head scratcher. Some of the International players ranked in the top 5-10 have crazy high ceilings, and I think every other year we should go after a "big name" like we used too. Wasn't Lopez a top 30 guy last year?
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 25, 2019 9:08:03 GMT -5
You've got to believe in Eddie Romero my brother! Also, the Red Sox hired Chris Becerra one of the best in international scouting. I'm pretty sure they have a good plan in place. Wow congratulations to your brother on likely signing into pro ball! Hopefully he goes to the Red Sox! Has he told you he hopes to sign with the Sox or something? Don't you know you replied to your own brother?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 25, 2019 11:33:01 GMT -5
While I agree, not getting anyone ranked in the top "30" 2 years in a row is a head scratcher. Some of the International players ranked in the top 5-10 have crazy high ceilings, and I think every other year we should go after a "big name" like we used too. Wasn't Lopez a top 30 guy last year? He was.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 25, 2019 13:32:03 GMT -5
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 26, 2019 11:26:28 GMT -5
Baseball America is not ranking International Signing prospects...Badler tweeted out earlier today that teams are signing kids now eligible for the 2020, 2021 and 2022 signing periods. Some of these kids are currently Little League eligible. This thing is going to blow up soon as it is out of control with respect to exploiting minor children. www.baseballamerica.com/stories/why-were-not-ranking-the-top-july-2-prospects/
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 26, 2019 11:31:27 GMT -5
Here is Badler’s tweet
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 26, 2019 11:43:56 GMT -5
Everyone should read the article. Makes all the sense in the world.
Also gives background that could be applied to, for example, why we shouldn't be worried about whether or not the org has signed a "Top 30" player or not.
Edit: There are actually two articles. One explains why they're not doing rankings anymore. The other is the one in the tweet.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 26, 2019 12:08:49 GMT -5
MLB better get its act together re: international draft, Otherwise they may be opening themselves up to scrutIny by Dept of Labor. Some of these kids signing agreements are 11/12 years old.
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 26, 2019 12:10:18 GMT -5
The people that Badler isn’t talking about, the ones being recruited years ahead of time, aren’t professional athletes. They’re kids. Middle schoolers and high schoolers that are being manipulated and taken advantage of. The whole system is messed up.
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 26, 2019 12:29:04 GMT -5
Mid range is the right model when you look at all the money wasted on the top guys each year.
But when you hit on a Devers it’s hard not to like that model. Obviously Romero can do both, as he also went way over with Flores.
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Post by azblue on Jun 26, 2019 21:13:05 GMT -5
Devers received a bonus of $1.5 million.
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Post by cdj on Jun 26, 2019 21:30:21 GMT -5
Acuna got 100k and Soto got a Lopez bonus (by no means near the top of the class) and they were in the bigs 2.5 years later
Point being it’s smart to do what the Sox are doing- you want as many swings at the piñata as possible
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jun 27, 2019 4:29:18 GMT -5
Baseball America is not ranking International Signing prospects...Badler tweeted out earlier today that teams are signing kids now eligible for the 2020, 2021 and 2022 signing periods. Some of these kids are currently Little League eligible. This thing is going to blow up soon as it is out of control with respect to exploiting minor children. www.baseballamerica.com/stories/why-were-not-ranking-the-top-july-2-prospects/hence another reason it all needs to cease and either a seperate draft for 18+YO kids, or rolled together into the rule4 draft for 18 and 18+ year old kids. only way to stop this nonsense.
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Post by stevedillard on Jun 27, 2019 5:24:11 GMT -5
Devers received a bonus of $1.5 million. apologies for not being clear. Devers was the top bat his year and in the top 11 "rankings." So by that model I meant the high end market. You can waste a lot of money there (see the Yankees in 2012 when they signed about 12 of the top 30 and got nothing), but when you hit just one, like Devers, the value seems tempting. The Sox have been getting the non-30 guys the past few years, with volume vs. value, Daniel Flores excepted, and some forced by the Moncada cap.
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Post by alnipper on Jun 27, 2019 19:09:09 GMT -5
I wonder if the Yankees abuse the system the worse. They sign soo many of these kids. Maybe not, but the team that instantly came to mind is the Yankees. Regardless it needs to ends. The poor youngsters have no chance.
I wonder if the Sox will hold onto some more pool money this year in case some late prospects become available.
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Post by telson13 on Jun 27, 2019 21:19:05 GMT -5
Any guesses on who could be trade bait if the Sox end up trading for extra cap space? Guys like Joan Martinez, Pedro Castellanos, or maybe even a Ryan Fitzgerald kind of stand out to me. CJ Chatham is my candidate with the Bogey's extension, the return of Marco and Lin's injury not being as bad as they thought. That would be a smart move if they could get real $, and totally worth it. He’s not a bad prospect as a viable SS, but really has no place on this team.
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Post by telson13 on Jun 27, 2019 21:24:19 GMT -5
I’ve been reading we’re not linked to any top 30 prospects while the Yankees are linked to 3 in the top 15. How is this? Very frustrating Just a reminder that none of Bryan Gonzalez, Brainer Bonaci, Alex Zapete, Elio Prado, Albert Feliz, Noelberth Romero, or any of those guys having success in the DSL were ranked in any lists. Its just such an unpredictable market that you can't get too wrapped up in the rankings. We've done well in this market since coming out of the penalties (and did well before), and there's no reason to think we won't put together another solid class. I’m generally in agreement that the big $ guys aren’t great investments unless 1) they really LOVE a guy and are especially super high on him, or 2) they traded for extra $ and simply have it to spend without enough guys at the lower end to fill the gap. For a team with good int’l scouting and relationships, especially in VZ where scouting is tough (and competition reduced) due to social conditions, going volume is a better approach.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 28, 2019 3:05:08 GMT -5
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Post by hammerhead on Jun 28, 2019 6:58:39 GMT -5
I disagree, I wasn't impressed with the exit velocity or the launch angle.. I might keep scouting the defender though.
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