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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 8:38:23 GMT -5
Looking at the MLB Draft Prospects list, I noticed one guy, Spencer Jones, was listed as a 1B/LHP. Do you think that whoever drafts him will use him as a 2 way player, or will they pick one or the other?
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Post by ramireja on May 25, 2019 8:58:00 GMT -5
Looking at the MLB Draft Prospects list, I noticed one guy, Spencer Jones, was listed as a 1B/LHP. Do you think that whoever drafts him will use him as a 2 way player, or will they pick one or the other? The answer to that depends entirely on who drafts him BUT I suppose its possible that a team who views him as 2-way player might value him more and therefore be more likely to select him.
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Post by taftreign on May 25, 2019 22:27:20 GMT -5
Didn't see an update in here about Carter Stewart's contract. He got his $7 million.
JJ Cooper ✔ @jjcoop36 1. Carter Stewart's next 6 years an approximation.
Japan: 6 year, $7 million.
Stays in US. Optimistically let's say he's an early 2nd round pick. $2 million bonus. 2019: $2 million+$3,500 in salary. 2020: Let's say LoA. $6,500 in salary. 2021: HiA/AA. $8,100 in salary. (Cont.)
9:55 PM - May 21, 2019
Also he becomes a free agent after 6 seasons and can sign with an MLB team. If he signed in the draft he would have the number of seasons in the minors until he reaches the majors, which is likely 3 or 4 followed by 6 or 6 1/2 years of team control under the current rules until he's a free agent. This decision also allows him to reach free agency sooner assuming he performs at a level to be desirable to an MLB team. If not he made his $7 million.
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Post by taftreign on May 25, 2019 22:36:28 GMT -5
Looking at the MLB Draft Prospects list, I noticed one guy, Spencer Jones, was listed as a 1B/LHP. Do you think that whoever drafts him will use him as a 2 way player, or will they pick one or the other? How exactly does this work? Does this mean a two way prospect must start as a hitter and reach his 20 innings the first season through pitching in extra innings and in games with a 7 run differential to then be designated as a "Two-Way Player"? The requirements are MLB playing time and a team can only designate a player as one or the other at the time of their "first day on the active roster." Am I missing another way to accrue this title. Seems to me Ohtani would not have been able to be a starting pitcher his first season until he reached his 20 innings through the exceptions.
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Post by James Dunne on May 29, 2019 8:31:27 GMT -5
blogs.fangraphs.com/mock-draft-3-0-two-rounds/Fangraphs has a new mock out that goes out two rounds. They're mocking 'Zona 3B Cameron Cannon and Arkansas lefty Matt Cronin to Boston. Cannon, who is (maybe) 5'10" does seem to fit the Red Sox style. Ethan Small, who is mocked #44 to KC, is probably my personal favorite prospect in the draft. I'm not positive he's even good (would love him at that #2 pick), but he does a lot of funky timing stuff and he's fun to watch. Fastball velocity is mediocre, very good slow curve and change, excellent command/control. EDIT: Found it! Here's the Ethan Small PitchingNinja Gif! Totally mesmerizing.
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Post by jdb on May 29, 2019 10:00:00 GMT -5
MLB pipeline has Cannon projected at 2B. I haven't been as plugged in not having a first but I'm a South Carolina fan and think OF TJ Hopkins would be a good top five round SR sign. He's pretty athletic but could never stay healthy.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 29, 2019 10:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by dirtdog on May 29, 2019 12:07:19 GMT -5
blogs.fangraphs.com/mock-draft-3-0-two-rounds/Fangraphs has a new mock out that goes out two rounds. They're mocking 'Zona 3B Cameron Cannon and Arkansas lefty Matt Cronin to Boston. Cannon, who is (maybe) 5'10" does seem to fit the Red Sox style.Ethan Small, who is mocked #44 to KC, is probably my personal favorite prospect in the draft. I'm not positive he's even good (would love him at that #2 pick), but he does a lot of funky timing stuff and he's fun to watch. Fastball velocity is mediocre, very good slow curve and change, excellent command/control. EDIT: Found it! Here's the Ethan Small PitchingNinja Gif! Totally mesmerizing. How big is Chavis? My thought was take BPA even if its 3B but normally there is some SS type here who projects as a toolsy type going forward. Truth be told they could really use a close to ready bull pen arm.
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Post by 1toolplayer on May 29, 2019 12:58:22 GMT -5
I know this isn't considered to be a overly deep draft in terms of star talent, but I do like the depth of the college arms. Some of my post top 50 favorites:
Ryan Zeferjan- Kansas Will Ehtridge, Ole Miss Tony Locey - UGA Tommy Henry- UM (mentioned in Mike's preview) Alec Marsh- ASU (also mentioned) Ryan Pepiot - Butler Noah Song- Navy (the military commitment is an obvious hurdle) Ryan Jansen - Fresno St Jack Little - Stanford
and three guys who might be worth the "get them right" that would likely not have had a chance on coming into the year: Mason Feole - Uconn Tyler Dyson - Florida Graeme Stinson- Duke
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on May 29, 2019 19:55:08 GMT -5
I'm all about Jake Mangum as a mid-Day Two senior sign. Pretty old but also seems like he's been held back by approach for a bit a la Duran, would be interested in seeing if a slight change would result in a few more XBH.
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Post by larrycook on May 29, 2019 21:27:06 GMT -5
J.J. Goss has a nasty slider and decent movement on the fastball. He might be available when we first come up.
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Post by ramireja on May 30, 2019 11:54:53 GMT -5
I'm all about Jake Mangum as a mid-Day Two senior sign. Pretty old but also seems like he's been held back by approach for a bit a la Duran, would be interested in seeing if a slight change would result in a few more XBH. I'd be all in on this....maybe even as high as Round 4 to create some savings to spread across other signings.
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Post by ramireja on May 30, 2019 17:22:48 GMT -5
I thought this was an interesting comment in Longenhagen's Fangraph's chat yesterday: Despite our disadvantages in bonus pools for the past couple of years, we've been pretty good at drafting/signing HS bats in this range (or I guess more in the 150k-600k range). Guys like Northcut, Howlett, Perry, Esplin, Dearden, and even Scherff were signed in our just outside this range. Although at first glance our $4.7M bonus cap might seem limiting with regard to drafting/signing this demographic, it really shouldn't be all that different from previous years so as long as they draft guys at or near slot in the first 3 rounds or so. To create $ to spend in Rounds 11 and later, first consider that there will be about 235K in 5% overage past our bonus cap. Then consider we will probably make at least two senior signs between rounds 7-10 which should free up an additional 300K. Then personally, I love the idea of targeting a priority senior sign....someone who isn't a complete org guy and has a reasonable ceiling as a bench guy or in middle relief (e.g., Devlin Granberg, Ben Taylor). If you take that guy in say Round 4, even if you have to sign him between 50K-100K, you can still create 300K+ to spend in later rounds and you're basically getting first dibs on a meaningful senior sign. Bottom line -- if this draft is deep in mid bonus HS players, there are ways for us to land 2-3 of these guys even with our relatively small bonus pool. Just wanted to follow up on my earlier thoughts with some great Fangraphs material from today:
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 30, 2019 21:25:03 GMT -5
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Post by badfishnbc on May 31, 2019 9:46:54 GMT -5
Not unusal that people would be keenly interested in how James Beard is at the plate.
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Post by jimed14 on May 31, 2019 10:07:21 GMT -5
Not unusal that people would be keenly interested in how James Beard is at the plate. Someday they'll name awards after him.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 31, 2019 10:30:26 GMT -5
Looking at the MLB Draft Prospects list, I noticed one guy, Spencer Jones, was listed as a 1B/LHP. Do you think that whoever drafts him will use him as a 2 way player, or will they pick one or the other? How exactly does this work? Does this mean a two way prospect must start as a hitter and reach his 20 innings the first season through pitching in extra innings and in games with a 7 run differential to then be designated as a "Two-Way Player"? The requirements are MLB playing time and a team can only designate a player as one or the other at the time of their "first day on the active roster." Am I missing another way to accrue this title. Seems to me Ohtani would not have been able to be a starting pitcher his first season until he reached his 20 innings through the exceptions. Fairly certain that's just for MLB.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 31, 2019 12:20:10 GMT -5
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 31, 2019 16:19:49 GMT -5
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Post by taftreign on May 31, 2019 16:32:09 GMT -5
How exactly does this work? Does this mean a two way prospect must start as a hitter and reach his 20 innings the first season through pitching in extra innings and in games with a 7 run differential to then be designated as a "Two-Way Player"? The requirements are MLB playing time and a team can only designate a player as one or the other at the time of their "first day on the active roster." Am I missing another way to accrue this title. Seems to me Ohtani would not have been able to be a starting pitcher his first season until he reached his 20 innings through the exceptions. Fairly certain that's just for MLB. Yes. That’s my question. For minor league two way players it seems it would be a bit of an awkward transition to the majors if that is their intent to continue as a two way player.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 31, 2019 16:42:09 GMT -5
Fairly certain that's just for MLB. Yes. That’s my question. For minor league two way players it seems it would be a bit of an awkward transition to the majors if that is their intent to continue as a two way player. Why? I'm sure if the guy is coming up from the minors they can be designated as a 2-way player and then get their qualifying games. Otherwise this rule would literally mean Ohtani is the last 2-way player because nobody would ever qualify again. You're quoting a summary of the Rule. I'm sure it's going to be written differently so new 2-way guys won't run into an issue. The point of the rule is to cut down on position players pitching.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 31, 2019 16:56:22 GMT -5
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Post by radiohix on May 31, 2019 18:07:28 GMT -5
Would love picking Strumpf! His strike zone mastercy and gap power while playing average defense at 2nd base makes him a high floor talent for me. I even think that he could benefit from a livelier ball in the high Minors and who knows? Maybe those doubles into the gaps could turn into homers. I even read somewhere some Matt Carpenter comparaison. That'll work for me tbh
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Post by dirtdog on Jun 1, 2019 12:13:58 GMT -5
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Post by dirtdog on Jun 1, 2019 12:15:21 GMT -5
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