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Post by mredsox89 on Mar 22, 2019 11:25:18 GMT -5
Sale and the Sox close to an extension!
*Per Speier on Twitter moments ago
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 22, 2019 11:35:15 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 22, 2019 11:42:14 GMT -5
Anybody want to guess Sale's extension?
I'll say 6 years at $32 million/year with option year for the 7th year at $25 million. That would be $217 million over 7 years or the same overall value as David Price.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 22, 2019 11:43:20 GMT -5
Anybody want to guess Sale's extension? I'll say 6 years at $32 million/year with option year for the 7th year at $25 million. That would be $217 million over 7 years or the same overall value as David Price. I did it in the OP for this thread. 6/200 |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 22, 2019 11:45:20 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 22, 2019 11:47:41 GMT -5
Wow, Chris Sale definitely did well, but he didn't hold out for every last dollar or tie them up until he's 38 or whatever. Very reasonable. Glad to have Chris Sale around for quite awhile!
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Post by mobaz on Mar 22, 2019 11:50:47 GMT -5
Crazy. Good deal for the sox, he finally gets paid, helps alleviate shoulder/wear and tear concerns.
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Post by nomar on Mar 22, 2019 12:00:36 GMT -5
Nice deal if thats the number
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 22, 2019 12:15:37 GMT -5
5/150 makes sense - i guessed 5/140... he’s arguably the best pitcher in baseball until he runs out of gas in the arm. It’s a big risk but he’s so special you take it.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Mar 22, 2019 12:18:04 GMT -5
5/150? That's a stupid good deal for Boston.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Mar 22, 2019 12:24:48 GMT -5
Crazy. Good deal for the sox, he finally gets paid, helps alleviate shoulder/wear and tear concerns.Oh sure man. I feel much better about it now.  |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 22, 2019 12:25:23 GMT -5
5/150? That's a stupid good deal for Boston. You think with Sales repeated history of shoulder issues late in the year?. It’s a good compromise for team and player. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 22, 2019 12:26:20 GMT -5
Crazy. Good deal for the sox, he finally gets paid, helps alleviate shoulder/wear and tear concerns. I don’t understand what you mean... how does him getting paid help alleviate shoulder concerns? |
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Post by mobaz on Mar 22, 2019 12:30:41 GMT -5
Crazy. Good deal for the sox, he finally gets paid, helps alleviate shoulder/wear and tear concerns. I don’t understand what you mean... how does him getting paid help alleviate shoulder concerns? Not going 6 years, not going $32m/year indicates to me a health-risk-based discount. EDIT: Also, it turns out I was doing bad mental math and thought this was $25M a year and not $30M a year, so there's that. |
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Post by mredsox89 on Mar 22, 2019 12:32:30 GMT -5
Roughly same AAV as Price, Scherzer, & Kershaw. Figure he probably gets $35/year, maybe more/another year, if he didn't have any shoulder issues/consistent fading in the second half
Don't think it's a stellar deal for the Sox, but I also don't have any real problem with it. They've now got a lot of $ locked in the rotation, but you could do far worse than Sale, Price, and Eovaldi
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 22, 2019 12:44:35 GMT -5
This feels a bit like that Steph Curry deal where the player took less because of injuries. Of course Sale has done much more in his career than Steph had done at that point, but Sale is also riskier IMO. I like it. Good money for him, could be a steal for the Red Sox if it all goes to plan.
Now there's only the other like 55 extensions waiting in the clubhouse. No pressure.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 22, 2019 12:50:17 GMT -5
This feels a bit like that Steph Curry deal where the player took less because of injuries. Of course Sale has done much more in his career than Steph had done at that point, but Sale is also riskier IMO. I like it. Good money for him, could be a steal for the Red Sox if it all goes to plan. Now there's only the other like 55 extensions waiting in the clubhouse. No pressure. Hopefully it breaks up the log jam. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 22, 2019 12:58:03 GMT -5
5 @ 150 is fair IMO
Sale recognizes that there is risk for the Sox and obviously wants to stay here as he could have gone to FA and beat those numbers. Then again if his shoulder gets worse this year he is taking the risk. Fair deal for both sides.
If he pitches to his level @ 175 innings/yr with the Sox limiting his innings I will be thrilled Just be healthy for the post season.
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 22, 2019 13:00:27 GMT -5
And hopefully, not likely, he starts a trend where some guys take good deals without trying to break the bank so as to keep this team together. A man can dream.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 22, 2019 13:13:08 GMT -5
This feels a bit like that Steph Curry deal where the player took less because of injuries. Of course Sale has done much more in his career than Steph had done at that point, but Sale is also riskier IMO. I like it. Good money for him, could be a steal for the Red Sox if it all goes to plan. Now there's only the other like 55 extensions waiting in the clubhouse. No pressure. For this to be an apt comp Sale would have had to sign for like 15 per even then all the other variables you stated make it very difficult. |
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Post by jimoh on Mar 22, 2019 13:14:31 GMT -5
Crazy. Good deal for the sox, he finally gets paid, helps alleviate shoulder/wear and tear concerns.Oh sure man. I feel much better about it now. I read that as "allows him to pitch for the Red Sox without worrying that he is screwing himself out of $100M by occasionally pitching with a little twinge, and allows him to be honest about when he is hurt." |
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Post by stevedillard on Mar 22, 2019 13:24:23 GMT -5
That's still a lot to pay our closer [/ducks]
On the discount for shoulder status, I wonder how definitive that risk is. Both seem to have agreed upon it existing, which would be rare (think back to Sox cutting bait with Pedro, who still fooled the Mets into a longer term deal). A bit like Beckett having his shoulder issue but then agreeing to a hometown discount for the certainty (he won that bet)
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 22, 2019 13:26:37 GMT -5
That's still a lot to pay our closer [/ducks] Nah, Eovaldi is our closer, haven't you heard?  |
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 22, 2019 13:31:05 GMT -5
That's still a lot to pay our closer [/ducks] On the discount for shoulder status, I wonder how definitive that risk is. Both seem to have agreed upon it existing, which would be rare (think back to Sox cutting bait with Pedro, who still fooled the Mets into a longer term deal). A bit like Beckett having his shoulder issue but then agreeing to a hometown discount for the certainty (he won that bet) Thankfully, Sale is starting at a much higher level than any of the others, including 2004 Pedro. He can decline quite a bit and still be good. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 22, 2019 13:39:12 GMT -5
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