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5/6-5/8 Red Sox @ Orioles Series Thread
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Post by James Dunne on May 7, 2019 14:07:10 GMT -5
Your plan in the offseason was to definitely not get outbid in order to re-sign Eovaldi and Joe Kelly and then to stay under the cap by trading Rick Porcello for prospects. But yes, Dave Dombrowski is a dope because his 8th starter isn't up to your standards.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 7, 2019 14:07:33 GMT -5
Meh, they have yet to get rolling. The losses to Baltimore are more than pathetic, but they’re still playing much better than three weeks ago. Shoulda swept Chicago, but still came out 3-1. This series is recoverable. So’s the season. FWIW, idk how in the hell NY is winning with that MASH squad. It’s ridiculous. Kinda makes Sox losses like this a LOT more embarrassing. Let’s hope Shawaryn gets the call for Price’s next turn and shows something. that is because the Yankees could dip into their farm system and bring up players that are more than ready to take over. remember the big selloff by the Yankeees to build up their farm system including the trade of chapman for Torres and getting him back in free agency and the trades for Clevelands and several other teams high end prospects. they are now being utilized as the replacements for the lost starters. Yeap. Simply put, the Yankees have had WAY better starting pitching depth to begin with. I'm getting mocked on here (once again), but the Yankees 6th starter in German is literally pitching like a Cy Young candidate right now.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 7, 2019 14:09:53 GMT -5
Your plan in the offseason was to definitely not get outbid in order to re-sign Eovaldi and Joe Kelly and then to stay under the cap by trading Rick Porcello for prospects. But yes, Dave Dombrowski is a dope because his 8th starter isn't up to your standards. I didn't want Joe Kelly for than 2 years, what are you talking about? Go back and read the posts. Yeah I would have traded Porcello for a starting pitching prospect close to major league ready. Heck, that's what we'd all want. The Porcello replacement for cheap.
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Post by 07redsox on May 7, 2019 14:14:07 GMT -5
Meh, they have yet to get rolling. The losses to Baltimore are more than pathetic, but they’re still playing much better than three weeks ago. Shoulda swept Chicago, but still came out 3-1. This series is recoverable. So’s the season. FWIW, idk how in the hell NY is winning with that MASH squad. It’s ridiculous. Kinda makes Sox losses like this a LOT more embarrassing. Let’s hope Shawaryn gets the call for Price’s next turn and shows something. that is because the Yankees could dip into their farm system and bring up players that are more than ready to take over. remember the big selloff by the Yankeees to build up their farm system including the trade of chapman for Torres and getting him back in free agency and the trades for Clevelands and several other teams high end prospects. they are now being utilized as the replacements for the lost starters. While this is true in a sense, it isn't really valid when you are talking about the amount on injuries that they have had. It's not like they had 10-15 top ranked prospects breaking the door down. Some of the replacements have been notable prospects, but there are others that that this is not the case for. Plus, even if it was the case that they had 10-15 top ranked prospects ready to contribute, no one would expect prospects to succeed as much as they have so far.
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Post by 07redsox on May 7, 2019 14:22:30 GMT -5
that is because the Yankees could dip into their farm system and bring up players that are more than ready to take over. remember the big selloff by the Yankeees to build up their farm system including the trade of chapman for Torres and getting him back in free agency and the trades for Clevelands and several other teams high end prospects. they are now being utilized as the replacements for the lost starters. Yeap. Simply put, the Yankees have had WAY better starting pitching depth to begin with. I'm getting mocked on here (once again), but the Yankees 6th starter in German is literally pitching like a Cy Young candidate right now. Smith isn't even their 6th starter depth wise so I don't really understand what you are trying to say here...You called him there 8th starter, which is probably realistic, give or take a space or two. What teams actually have great MLB quality starting depth that far down the depth chart? Those that do are usually teams that have top pitching prospects that can come up and help out the team.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 7, 2019 14:44:56 GMT -5
Yeap. Simply put, the Yankees have had WAY better starting pitching depth to begin with. I'm getting mocked on here (once again), but the Yankees 6th starter in German is literally pitching like a Cy Young candidate right now. Smith isn't even their 6th starter depth wise so I don't really understand what you are trying to say here...You called him there 8th starter, which is probably realistic, give or take a space or two. What teams actually have great MLB quality starting depth that far down the depth chart? Those that do are usually teams that have top pitching prospects that can come up and help out the team. It isn't just the minor league depth (which the Sox don't have), it's the minor league signings too (Gio Urshela who's basically already a 1 WIN player at this point). Even DUI Maybin is playing well for the Yankees. Simply put, Cashman found more productive depth beyond the roster. He had a better plan for his team when the inevitable injury bug occurred.
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Post by congusgambler33 on May 7, 2019 14:54:27 GMT -5
that is because the Yankees could dip into their farm system and bring up players that are more than ready to take over. remember the big selloff by the Yankeees to build up their farm system including the trade of chapman for Torres and getting him back in free agency and the trades for Clevelands and several other teams high end prospects. they are now being utilized as the replacements for the lost starters. While this is true in a sense, it isn't really valid when you are talking about the amount on injuries that they have had. It's not like they had 10-15 top ranked prospects breaking the door down. Some of the replacements have been notable prospects, but there are others that that this is not the case for. Plus, even if it was the case that they had 10-15 top ranked prospects ready to contribute, no one would expect prospects to succeed as much as they have so far. They have bench players better than most teams and filtered in some of their prospects to have the success they have had. Saying 10-15 prospects knocking down the door is absurd to say. the prospects have had major league experience already also. German has been pitching lights out, Sabathia has been stellar on his return,Paxton has been solid,Tanaka has been decent and Happ has been struggling. 4out of 5 have performed very well. Put that with the hitting of the MASH unit and that leads to success.
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Post by jimed14 on May 7, 2019 15:18:25 GMT -5
Red Sox go 6-1, then lose one game to the Orioles and the sky is falling again.
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Post by huskies15 on May 7, 2019 15:26:13 GMT -5
^^Throwing Josh Smith and Velazques in back to back games will do that
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 7, 2019 15:51:38 GMT -5
Ha. Full disclosure, In that time frame I was a Boston transplant with an attitude in the LA area, rooting for the Celts: Russell over Wilt, Bird over Magic, etc. Wearing my Celtic or Sox hat around soCal was risky and caused lots of snake eye and comments. I was younger then, with a shorter fuse, and more willing to argue about such things. Which convinced me way back then that the reputation of uncaring local fans is a myth. At the same time, in the 70’s and 80’s, LA was growing rapidly via fellow transplants from all over the east and midwest wearing their old team’s colors, like me. So fan arguments were fairly common on many fronts, but were less antagonistic than those one might find in Southie or Summavil. The kids and grand kids of these immigrants to soCal are now local, added to the soCal fanbase, while often maintaining some family loyalty to ancestral teams, as do my own kids and grandkids. My immigrant grandparents became Red Sox fans. So my grandkids are fifth generation Sox fans. But my wife’s immigrant parents and her siblings are Californians and Dodgers and Angel fans, as are my grandkids, already out to the 3rd generation. What is the role of partisan fanaticism here, outside of the fun of it all? So many hard core Dodger fans, especially Mexican American, have been here for 8, 9, 10 and more generations, and absorbed this immigrant from Brooklyn as it moved 3,000 miles into their Barrio. It’s an interesting pattern that in this age of forced immigration will likely be repeated on a worldwide scale and for all major sports. Thinking this through, SoCal remains a major tourist area with millions exploring Holywood, Disney, beaches, mountains, deserts, etc. The “local” population is as ginormous and wonderfully diverse as the area itself. So Reds hats still share local streets with hats from Atlanta, Green Bay, Chicago, etc. in a fairly collegial manner. But make no mistake, the natives love and support their teams and their teams thrive. Lakers, Dodgers, Kings and Rams as well as the Clippers, Angels, Chargers, Ducks who chose to play here because of the growing fanbase. And what this fanbase sometimes lacks in Boston style fanaticism, it makes up for in sheer volume and sales of tickets and gear. SoCal has become a sports hub with its own huge and hugely loyal fanbase. And yes, I have to admit that Magic and Wilt and Kareem were awesome on the scale of Kershaw Gretsky and Trout. Gerry.....thanks for sharing. I have said if before, but I just love these type of posts from guys who have been following the boys for so many years. I only know LA as a tourist. For the week or so of my life I have been there, I thought it was fantastic. I had a friend who lived in Hermosa Beach in the early 90's and he gave me his place for 2 or 3 days on my 10,000 mile - 1 month trip driving around this great country. Me and another buddy had a blast out there. He came back the last night I stayed and we lit it up, but good.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 7, 2019 16:08:12 GMT -5
As far as the Yankees....I mean....they have to be shocked themselves. Given the key injuries they have had, I am basing it on pure MFY luck, the kind that existed since the year...you know what. Until 2004.....when we kicked their asses, coming back from down 3-0. Since then, we own them....like we did last year....when we kicked their asses in the LDS. They are just an annoyance at this point. The ground rules remain in place....No MFY accolades...ever !!!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 7, 2019 16:49:58 GMT -5
^^Throwing Josh Smith and Velazques in back to back games will do that Also a dreadful March and April to make up for the season. The Sox need to be cleaning up and making ground against the Orioles and are sputtering.
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Post by jimed14 on May 7, 2019 17:53:30 GMT -5
So they need to win every single game now for people not to freak out. Seems reasonable.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 7, 2019 18:12:46 GMT -5
So they need to win every single game now for people not to freak out. Seems reasonable. They need to have a winning record against the Orioles and Tigers (two teams actively trying to lose). Which is reasonable.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 7, 2019 18:13:23 GMT -5
At least JDM can still mash.
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Post by kevfc89 on May 7, 2019 18:27:42 GMT -5
so much for the quick lead
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 7, 2019 18:30:25 GMT -5
I'm smelling a pitchers duel here.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 7, 2019 19:08:33 GMT -5
I'm smelling a pitchers duel here. To set the record straight, I was actually only joking.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 7, 2019 19:10:40 GMT -5
I'm smelling a pitchers duel here. To set the record straight, I was actually only joking. Strange timing on those posts...
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Post by kevfc89 on May 7, 2019 19:23:45 GMT -5
Jackie's in such a bad place that they choose to sac bunt him, sigh. and we get nothing more this inning after giving up the out
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 7, 2019 19:30:28 GMT -5
Cora is bringing in Walden for the 4th inning. So yeah, he sees the pressure to win every game he can right now, but you get mocked on a message board when you point it out.
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Post by jimed14 on May 7, 2019 19:33:27 GMT -5
Oh crap. Walden gave up a run. DFA him.
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Post by nomar on May 7, 2019 19:34:13 GMT -5
Cora is bringing in Walden for the 4th inning. So yeah, he sees the pressure to win every game he can right now, but you get mocked on a message board when you point it out. Velazquez hasn’t thrown more than 52 pitches and was right around there after 3 innings. Not sure it says anything about anyone’s will or want to win.
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Post by brendan98 on May 7, 2019 19:36:26 GMT -5
Oh crap. Walden gave up a run. DFA him. Maybe not, but what a terrible pitch.
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Post by congusgambler33 on May 7, 2019 19:40:16 GMT -5
Oh its Kline. the guy the Sox drafted in the 7th round a few years back and didn't sign.
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