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5/17 Gameday Thread: Matt Kent, Dedgar, & Maybe Mata
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Post by iakovos11 on May 17, 2019 9:48:10 GMT -5
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Post by borisman on May 17, 2019 12:21:15 GMT -5
I don't ever remember the farm system starting out so poorly. They must have the worst combined won/loss record of any team. Can't wait for some of the injured to return and the draft to pass so they can start short-season baseball.
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Post by vermontsox1 on May 17, 2019 12:52:55 GMT -5
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Post by johnsilver52 on May 17, 2019 16:13:21 GMT -5
I don't ever remember the farm system starting out so poorly. They must have the worst combined won/loss record of any team. Can't wait for some of the injured to return and the draft to pass so they can start short-season baseball. Wins and losses for organizational MiLB teams are not a big deal. At this time, its about 8-10 main kids and that many more slightly under that to watch for to pay particular attention to for a bit until more kids are drafted/signed and the organization is filled out again. Tickets and attendance may be hampered by the poor records, but that's not really important in the grand scheme of things organization wide.. it's developing the real prospects they have into MLB type players and always has been.
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Post by carmenfanzone on May 17, 2019 17:00:02 GMT -5
I don't ever remember the farm system starting out so poorly. They must have the worst combined won/loss record of any team. Can't wait for some of the injured to return and the draft to pass so they can start short-season baseball. Wins and losses for organizational MiLB teams are not a big deal. At this time, its about 8-10 main kids and that many more slightly under that to watch for to pay particular attention to for a bit until more kids are drafted/signed and the organization is filled out again. Tickets and attendance may be hampered by the poor records, but that's not really important in the grand scheme of things organization wide.. it's developing the real prospects they have into MLB type players and always has been. I agree that winning in the minor leagues isn't that important. But if 3 of your 4 minor league teams are in last place and the 4th is one game out of last place, I think it is fair to have concern about just how good the 8-10 main kids you have are. If the Red Sox had 8-10 kids who were going to be good major league players, I doubt their minor league teams would all be this bad.
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Post by congusgambler33 on May 17, 2019 17:00:15 GMT -5
I don't ever remember the farm system starting out so poorly. They must have the worst combined won/loss record of any team. Can't wait for some of the injured to return and the draft to pass so they can start short-season baseball. Wins and losses for organizational MiLB teams are not a big deal. At this time, its about 8-10 main kids and that many more slightly under that to watch for to pay particular attention to for a bit until more kids are drafted/signed and the organization is filled out again. Tickets and attendance may be hampered by the poor records, but that's not really important in the grand scheme of things organization wide.. it's developing the real prospects they have into MLB type players and always has been. This...and the fact that injuries and player movement up and down add to the record. It is not a strong farm system to be sure,but there are some standout players in the system. I remember when Theo took over he wanted to make the farm system more competitive than previously and had teams with winning records so they had the confidence going forward in their development. We have traded away several of those players that made the minors successful and it will take some time to get back to that. We also suffered the sanctions of the International players that were lost during Cherington's reign. they probably would be in Portland by now.
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Post by radiohix on May 17, 2019 17:10:05 GMT -5
I really don't care about affiliates record, give me a good performance from the key prospects at every level and I'm happy with that and this year is looking good so far, surely better than last year for me. At every level there's at least 2 prospects worth following: - Casas and Howlett in GVL - Duran and Mata in Salem - Dalbec and Hernandez in Portland - Ockimey and Lakins in Pawtucket. I'm happy with what we have so far.
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Post by iakovos11 on May 17, 2019 17:16:39 GMT -5
Wins and losses for organizational MiLB teams are not a big deal. At this time, its about 8-10 main kids and that many more slightly under that to watch for to pay particular attention to for a bit until more kids are drafted/signed and the organization is filled out again. Tickets and attendance may be hampered by the poor records, but that's not really important in the grand scheme of things organization wide.. it's developing the real prospects they have into MLB type players and always has been. I agree that winning in the minor leagues isn't that important. But if 3 of your 4 minor league teams are in last place and the 4th is one game out of last place, I think it is fair to have concern about just how good the 8-10 main kids you have are. If the Red Sox had 8-10 kids who were going to be good major league players, I doubt their minor league teams would all be this bad. Maybe not, though. If your best prospects are younger guys with aggressive placements, they may struggle a bit. Doesn't mean they aren't good prospects or aren't developing. Maybe the pitchers get pulled conservatively and the relievers (not top prospects) blow the lead/game. Maybe the guys (the better prospects, especially) are working on developmental things. I'd rather see them focus on getting better and improving (maybe it's a new pitch or new delivery or new approach at the plate, etc) than just trying to win and perhaps standing still in terms of their growth & development. The Sox system isn't great. I don't think anyone is saying that. But there's talent at the lower level especially. I'd focus on how those guys are developing more than the team W-L records.
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 17, 2019 17:59:26 GMT -5
Enmanuel De Jesus starting in Salem
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 17, 2019 18:36:39 GMT -5
Pedroia and Holt both in the PawSox game. Holt is DHing.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 17, 2019 18:54:45 GMT -5
Bello is throwing strikes.
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Post by cdj on May 17, 2019 19:42:53 GMT -5
Alright so what’s the deal with Alan Marrero
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Post by radiohix on May 17, 2019 19:51:02 GMT -5
Do we need to start paying closer attention to Alan Marrero?
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 17, 2019 19:51:07 GMT -5
Pedroia & Holt: each with a single to RF.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 17, 2019 20:37:50 GMT -5
Duran almost cleared the bases with a double to left field but Lucena (a catcher) was thrown out at home.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 17, 2019 21:22:56 GMT -5
Videogame Duran likely done for the night.
line drive single to right, run scored K swinging flyout to center walk 2 RBI double on a linedrive to left K swinging
Without doing the math, he's likely taken over the CAR lead in OPS.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 17, 2019 21:45:59 GMT -5
Do we need to start paying closer attention to Alan Marrero? Interesting case. Considered a defensive minded system filler catcher, he leads the system in qualified wOBA, ahead of Duran. He's basically come out of nowhereville.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 17, 2019 22:15:57 GMT -5
Right now, Duran leads the CAR in:
Ave Runs Hits Total Bases Stolen Bases On Base Percentage 2nd in OPS
.412/.473/.541/1.013
About a month ago we all pretty much agreed that his BABIP would normalize. Scary thought, maybe it is.
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Post by James Dunne on May 17, 2019 22:19:22 GMT -5
'Twas a rough 20th birthday celebration for Bello today.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 17, 2019 22:31:48 GMT -5
'Twas a rough 20th birthday celebration for Bello today. The key word being 20th.
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Post by telson13 on May 18, 2019 0:06:01 GMT -5
Who is Alan Marrero?! 21 y/o from PR, 8th rounder in 2016, he’s been a terrible-hitting backup C getting little game time for 3 years. His career K rate is north of 30%, in SS ball. But he does take a few walks. His *career* line is .169/.294/.300. In somewhat limited time this year he’s at .265/.379/.592 albeit with just 58 PA. And he’s still whiffing at 32%, but his walk rate is over 15%. Maybe he’s started figuring something out? Be nice to develop some Cs, even if they’re just backups. Slim pickings these days.
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Post by RedSoxStats on May 18, 2019 0:07:09 GMT -5
I know Rio Gomez is probably an org guy, but he's nearly 25, I think he's earned a promotion to Salem
23.2 ip, 13 h, 35 k, 4 bb
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Post by telson13 on May 18, 2019 0:21:57 GMT -5
Videogame Duran likely done for the night. line drive single to right, run scored K swinging flyout to center walk 2 RBI double on a linedrive to left K swinging Without doing the math, he's likely taken over the CAR lead in OPS. And managed to raise a .532 BABIP. Nice to see an XBH. Is it strange to say I’m waiting for a hot streak? Like, boy, is he ever gonna be something if he starts hitting for a little more power.
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Post by telson13 on May 18, 2019 0:32:04 GMT -5
Right now, Duran leads the CAR in: Ave Runs Hits Total Bases Stolen Bases On Base Percentage 2nd in OPS .412/.473/.541/1.013 About a month ago we all pretty much agreed that his BABIP would normalize. Scary thought, maybe it is. Lol, I think I started the BABIP watch when it was only around .480. And that feels like it was like, 3 weeks ago. It’s just crazy. I mean...is there such thing as a true-talent .400 BABIP hitter? Not career, that’s crazy, but for a stretch of years while the speed lasts? Does he get a cup of coffee in September? Make the postseason roster as a PR/5th OF?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 18, 2019 4:08:09 GMT -5
I lean towards a mid-August callup and never looking back. We will see.
Other semi interesting stats....
He only has 3 K's looking. Throw a strike and he's ready to swing.
He has yet to make an error this year.
He has 4 outfield assists after 36 games. That equals Jacoby's minor league high for a full season.
He's 2nd only to Tanner Nishioka in line drive % in the organization. (Tanner hits too many popups).
His popup rate is 1.8% second only to Jagger Rusconi's 1.3%
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