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Post by soxfan511 on Jun 2, 2019 21:08:40 GMT -5
which Sox prospect not ranked in the top 10 do you think has the most potential to develop into a good MLB player?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 2, 2019 21:10:34 GMT -5
which Sox prospect not ranked in the top 10 do you think has the most potential to develop into a good MLB player? Gilberto Jimenez has scouts very interested. Plus Plus speed, excellent makeup. Far away, but very intriguing potential leadoff guy/CF.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 2, 2019 21:15:31 GMT -5
Don't know if you consider him underrated, though. He's just kind of new to the system comparatively.
Honestly, I'm not really sure who is underrated in the system.
I've always been interested in Devlin Granberg's bat from the time he was drafted. He could surprise, make it up to AAA, and maybe even get some ABs in the majors - if all goes right.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 2, 2019 21:58:38 GMT -5
The thread title doesn't match the opening post. Are we looking for underrated or has a decent chance to make the MLB ? That's not the same question.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 3, 2019 7:20:23 GMT -5
I'm a believer in Ockimey.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 3, 2019 8:42:20 GMT -5
I'll take Howlett as a non Top 10 with a decent chance to be a regular in the MLB for $500 Alex. He's big and he's athletic.
I'll take Thad Ward as being the most likely to be a significant mover (most underrated).
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Post by juanpena on Jun 3, 2019 9:59:25 GMT -5
I'll take deep dives on a couple of guys.
Tyler Esplin (No. 37) hasn't hit yet, but he doesn't turn 20 for another month. There is still time for something to click with him.
And maybe, if he makes a full recovery from Tommy John, Roniel Raudes (No. 50) gets enough of an uptick in velocity to allow his pitchability to play better.
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Post by telson13 on Jun 3, 2019 13:43:38 GMT -5
I'll take Howlett as a non Top 10 with a decent chance to be a regular in the MLB for $500 Alex. He's big and he's athletic. I'll take Thad Ward as being the most likely to be a significant mover (most underrated). Ward is quietly becoming somewhat intriguing. I’d like to see him add a tick and tighten up the SL, but he strikes me as a guy who might surprise his way into a back-end starter. 5th round isn’t exactly coming from nowhere, but he’s been about as good as could be hoped. Not sure the stuff allows him to be anything more than a swingman/5, but guys stumble into out pitches sometimes. He’s obviously ready to move.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jun 16, 2019 9:27:13 GMT -5
Jhon Nunez. C, AA.
Would be a big plus if he could backup catcher, even for a brief period. A few years away.
Switch hitter, pinch runner. Played LF off bench one game recent. Could develop into a second position. Will all that add up to a Rule 5 selection by an NL club? Doubtful. But keep an eye on him if he continues to hit.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 11:32:24 GMT -5
Here are a few that I think are underrated:
Nick Northcut: He was a top 100 draft prospect last year, and I don't think anythings changed Eduardo Lopez: Obviously high risk at this point, but I think he has a high ceiling. Matt Kent: I know he's hit a wall in Pawtucket, but I think he deserves to be top 60, since he's done well through double A, and might get a chance in MLB at some point. Eduardo Vaughan, Giancarlos Santana, Bryan Gonzalez: I'm pretty confident in this trio of last year's international signings. Chad De La Guerra, Cole Brannen, Tate Matheny: I think they've been given up on too soon.
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Post by dmaineah on Jun 16, 2019 20:17:37 GMT -5
Chase Shugart
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Post by wcsoxfan on Aug 16, 2019 14:53:51 GMT -5
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Post by gerry on Aug 17, 2019 0:10:42 GMT -5
Dalbec, Ockimey, Groome.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 17, 2019 0:32:56 GMT -5
I'll go with Bryan Gonzalez. He's such a big kid and he's so young. Who knows but there could be some serious power there. I'd hate to see the Sox send him away in a trade. I guess the same thing goes for his tag-team partner Albert Feliz.
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Post by pd on Aug 17, 2019 22:20:49 GMT -5
Daniel McGrath. There, I said it. He's got it going on.
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Post by telson13 on Aug 18, 2019 0:43:44 GMT -5
Daniel McGrath. There, I said it. He's got it going on. Seriously, I’m thinking of going to a game in Portland simply to catch him pitching. He is absolutely, completely, carving hitters up. I wish I knew, could see, how he does it. Yeah, he walks too many, but he’s been largely unhittable. Even including his rough short stint in AAA, he’s given up only 4 HR and 66 hits in 103 innings, with about twice the walks you’d like to see, but still under 4 per 9. Even with the high walk rate, his WHIP is 1.05. He’s a little fly-ball heavier than I’d like, especially in Fenway as a soft-tossing LH. But he’s still getting whiffs despite that (103 in 103.1). And yeah, he’s 25...but he’s not so old that he’s a non-prospect. Another stellar start tonight. I just can’t believe that a 1.35 ERA (caveats about ERA acknowledged) with an FIP under 3 means *nothing*. Sure, the low HR rate (and hence an xFIP nearly a run higher than his FIP) might take a hit with the juiced ball. He had a bad AAA stint, but turned his season around after (and got back in the rotation). But his BABIP against in AAA was .462, so...maybe he wasn’t *that* bad. I really hope he gets back up to AAA right away, and comes to Boston in September. Why not?!?! Find out if there’s something there. In fact, because he’s 25...he’s unlikely to get “ruined” by being brought up too early. He’ll take it in stride if he struggles and go back and work even harder. He’s already paid his dues, he knows this life and I’m *certain* he doesn’t feel entitled to be in MLB. Give him a shot, and maybe you find something amazing. For a team basically playing out the string...they ought to use that time to see what they have, all around the roster. And what a story that would be, if he were good or *great*. Hope for the offseason. Going into the winter with something positive in a pretty lost season. Hell, give him Sale’s spot right now, and the rest of the year to prove himself. Make something out of this bad situation.
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Post by sarasoxer on Aug 18, 2019 6:38:28 GMT -5
Daniel McGrath. There, I said it. He's got it going on. Seriously, I’m thinking of going to a game in Portland simply to catch him pitching. He is absolutely, completely, carving hitters up. I wish I knew, could see, how he does it. Yeah, he walks too many, but he’s been largely unhittable. Even including his rough short stint in AAA, he’s given up only 4 HR and 66 hits in 103 innings, with about twice the walks you’d like to see, but still under 4 per 9. Even with the high walk rate, his WHIP is 1.05. He’s a little fly-ball heavier than I’d like, especially in Fenway as a soft-tossing LH. But he’s still getting whiffs despite that (103 in 103.1). And yeah, he’s 25...but he’s not so old that he’s a non-prospect. Another stellar start tonight. I just can’t believe that a 1.35 ERA (caveats about ERA acknowledged) with an FIP under 3 means *nothing*. Sure, the low HR rate (and hence an xFIP nearly a run higher than his FIP) might take a hit with the juiced ball. He had a bad AAA stint, but turned his season around after (and got back in the rotation). But his BABIP against in AAA was .462, so...maybe he wasn’t *that* bad. I really hope he gets back up to AAA right away, and comes to Boston in September. Why not?!?! Find out if there’s something there. In fact, because he’s 25...he’s unlikely to get “ruined” by being brought up too early. He’ll take it in stride if he struggles and go back and work even harder. He’s already paid his dues, he knows this life and I’m *certain* he doesn’t feel entitled to be in MLB. Give him a shot, and maybe you find something amazing. For a team basically playing out the string...they ought to use that time to see what they have, all around the roster. And what a story that would be, if he were good or *great*. Hope for the offseason. Going into the winter with something positive in a pretty lost season. Hell, give him Sale’s spot right now, and the rest of the year to prove himself. Make something out of this bad situation. It's hard to argue with his spectacular results. I remember when Brian Johnson was in Portland, he similarly did well with a sub 2.00 ERA. Brian had better command but, without having seen McGrath, I have the image of a clone. It would be welcome to see modern day pitching success in an era populated by hard, harder and hardest throwers. At this level tho, batters still have trouble with off speed stuff more than you might think. Crafty guys can level the field. I missed McGrath this time around but would like to catch him next week as the Sea Dogs will be in town. I'm partial to Jorge Rodriguez, the little lefty (5'11"), in the GCL...probably needs more exposure. But he is walking less than 2 per 9, has struck out 45 in 36 innings, has a whip around 1 and a BA against of .209. I note that SP has his curve at average potential, but GCL opponents were being mesmerized. From the stands it looked like it had sharp break too. I think that he at least makes top 60 next year.
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Post by caseytins on Aug 19, 2019 23:11:02 GMT -5
Joe Davis and Axel James.
Hearing good reports on both of them. I've seen Davis. His hit tool is very good. I've received super notes from a few friends that have seen Axel in the DSL.
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Post by voiceofreason on Sept 8, 2019 9:23:21 GMT -5
Jhonathon Diaz, he has a track record and has been dealing lately. Lefties who rely on control not power can take time to develop and it seems his power has improved.
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Post by boydhurstlovechild on Sept 8, 2019 19:18:45 GMT -5
Well, number 46 Yoelvis Guedaz will play at Fenway Park one day. Positive of that. There's simply no way that name never gets screamed out by a guy from Methuen taking his family to a game. Number 29 Yoan Aybar is a guy I'd say has a pretty small chance off being a major leaguer, but a higher chance at being a good one, a weapon. Can't teach someone to throw a ball 100 miles an hour with their left hand. Can you teach them everything else about pitching, quickly? Unlikely, but a man with a gun who doesn't know how to shoot scares me more than a guy who is proficient with a knife. Number 21 Durbin Feltman. Perhaps the talk and the aggressive promotion weren't good. To compete at anything with the most elite best in the world people involves skill set and psychological fortitude. Guy's got a fastball/power slider combo that I would be pretty surprised if it didn't play at the highest level.
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Post by telson13 on Sept 8, 2019 22:22:37 GMT -5
Let’s add YPA to this list. Yusmeiro Petit V2.0, now with improved velocity. Slim but real chance he adds even a bit more velocity. Guys with fringy FB velo can still have an impact if they extend, spin it well, and command multiple secondaries. He seems to check those boxes. Dude struck out 12 straight batters. There’s *something* going on there.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 8, 2019 22:23:55 GMT -5
Let’s add YPA to this list. Yusmeiro Petit V2.0, now with improved velocity. Slim but real chance he adds even a bit more velocity. Guys with fringy FB velo can still have an impact if they extend, spin it well, and command multiple secondaries. He seems to check those boxes. Dude struck out 12 straight batters. There’s *something* going on there. No offense, but the throwing 12 straight K's reminds me of something as meaningless as Kopech throwing 105 mph. I hope he builds on it.
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Post by boydhurstlovechild on Sept 8, 2019 23:25:22 GMT -5
Let’s add YPA to this list. Yusmeiro Petit V2.0, now with improved velocity. Slim but real chance he adds even a bit more velocity. Guys with fringy FB velo can still have an impact if they extend, spin it well, and command multiple secondaries. He seems to check those boxes. Dude struck out 12 straight batters. There’s *something* going on there. No offense, but the throwing 12 straight K's reminds me of something as meaningless as Kopech throwing 105 mph. I hope he builds on it. Disagree. I'm not saying that it makes Padron-Artilles a better prospect. but doing that is far from meaningless. Not sure if this is a meaningful correlation, but let take the view of the the top basketball prospects from about ten years ago. Out here in Los Angeles I watched the clear cut top guard prospect Brandon Jennings. He was a physical marvel. Also that year, I watched a bunch of Demar Derozan, who was an off guard and is pretty damn good. He essentially threw 105. Saw a kid once though from the Bronx, who was rated maybe 20th? Heck of a player, but not dunking from the free throw line or making crazy no look passes. But a couple years later, that kid Kemba Walker literally won every game in the big east tourney and then the ncaa tourney. Not the greatest athlete or shooter or anything, but I've never seen seen anything like that. Just a run where this kid owned everyone. I actually don't even consider Kopech throwing 105 meaningless. I don't think the White Sox did either? But, sure, there's guy's like Steve Dalkowski and it was meaningless. But this dude came into a game, as a reliever, in a playoff game that meant something to the players, the coaches, the good people of Lowell, and scorched the Earth. 12 straight knockouts? Never been done, right? The Mudcats of Batavia are professional ball players, with talent and dreams. But for a stretch there last night, they were owned. I can't tell you whether they felt scared, emasculated, or simply hopeless. I can tell you that the only thing meaningless was there bats.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 8, 2019 23:28:04 GMT -5
No offense, but the throwing 12 straight K's reminds me of something as meaningless as Kopech throwing 105 mph. I hope he builds on it. Disagree. I'm not saying that it makes Padron-Artilles a better prospect. but doing that is far from meaningless. Not sure if this is a meaningful correlation, but let take the view of the the top basketball prospects from about ten years ago. Out here in Los Angeles I watched the clear cut top guard prospect Brandon Jennings. He was a physical marvel. Also that year, I watched a bunch of Demar Derozan, who was an off guard and is pretty damn good. He essentially threw 105. Saw a kid once though from the Bronx, who was rated maybe 20th? Heck of a player, but not dunking from the free throw line or making crazy no look passes. But a couple years later, that kid Kemba Walker literally won every game in the big east tourney and then the ncaa tourney. Not the greatest athlete or shooter or anything, but I've never seen seen anything like that. Just a run where this kid owned everyone. I actually don't even consider Kopech throwing 105 meaningless. I don't think the White Sox did either? But, sure, there's guy's like Steve Dalkowski and it was meaningless. But this dude came into a game, as a reliever, in a playoff game that meant something to the players, the coaches, the good people of Lowell, and scorched the Earth. 12 straight knockouts? Never been done, right? The Mudcats of Batavia are professional ball players, with talent and dreams. But for a stretch there last night, they were owned. I can't tell you whether they felt scared, emasculated, or simply hopeless. I can tell you that the only thing meaningless was there bats. It's hard not to be excited about it, but I'm trying to not be excited about it.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 8, 2019 23:33:22 GMT -5
Disagree. I'm not saying that it makes Padron-Artilles a better prospect. but doing that is far from meaningless. Not sure if this is a meaningful correlation, but let take the view of the the top basketball prospects from about ten years ago. Out here in Los Angeles I watched the clear cut top guard prospect Brandon Jennings. He was a physical marvel. Also that year, I watched a bunch of Demar Derozan, who was an off guard and is pretty damn good. He essentially threw 105. Saw a kid once though from the Bronx, who was rated maybe 20th? Heck of a player, but not dunking from the free throw line or making crazy no look passes. But a couple years later, that kid Kemba Walker literally won every game in the big east tourney and then the ncaa tourney. Not the greatest athlete or shooter or anything, but I've never seen seen anything like that. Just a run where this kid owned everyone. I actually don't even consider Kopech throwing 105 meaningless. I don't think the White Sox did either? But, sure, there's guy's like Steve Dalkowski and it was meaningless. But this dude came into a game, as a reliever, in a playoff game that meant something to the players, the coaches, the good people of Lowell, and scorched the Earth. 12 straight knockouts? Never been done, right? The Mudcats of Batavia are professional ball players, with talent and dreams. But for a stretch there last night, they were owned. I can't tell you whether they felt scared, emasculated, or simply hopeless. I can tell you that the only thing meaningless was there bats. It's hard not to be excited about it, but I'm trying to not be excited about it. I'm more excited about the 4MPH velocity bump late in the season and the addition of a slider than I am about the 12 K's. That said, WOW.
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