redsox04071318champs
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 19, 2019 15:46:00 GMT -5
All of that revenue and NESN still couldn't "afford" to put out a commemorative DVD for the epic 2018 season. Still burns my butt. Best season in franchise history, one none of us will probably ever see again in our lifetime, and they wouldn't put it out. They might have the money but if the Red Sox or NESN don't want to spend it, they won't. I was meaning with regards to the luxury tax. I know.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Aug 19, 2019 15:56:39 GMT -5
The suspense is killing me.
Redsox.com still has TBD as Tues starter.
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Post by caseytins on Aug 19, 2019 16:03:18 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 19, 2019 16:15:31 GMT -5
Sometimes inflammation is just inflammation.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 19, 2019 16:18:08 GMT -5
News is good, but I could still see them shutting him down for the year if the guys don't get close at some point. The question going forward is going to be how to manage his health, if it is even manageable.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 19, 2019 16:18:58 GMT -5
Sometimes inflammation is just inflammation. Agree. However, there still is going to be concern.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 19, 2019 16:19:59 GMT -5
***************WHEW*******************
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 19, 2019 16:20:27 GMT -5
Sometimes inflammation is just inflammation. Agree. However, there still is going to be concern. Concern is way better than "see ya in 2021".
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 19, 2019 16:23:10 GMT -5
The Red Sox had revenues of 516 million in 2018, not counting like another 200 million plus from NESN. They'll likely be in the 550 plus range this year and close to 600 million for next year with the way they have been exploding over the years, plus the NESN money. The Red Sox have plenty of money to spend! All of that revenue and NESN still couldn't "afford" to put out a commemorative DVD for the epic 2018 season. Still burns my butt. Best season in franchise history, one none of us will probably ever see again in our lifetime, and they wouldn't put it out. They might have the money but if the Red Sox or NESN don't want to spend it, they won't. I know this isn't going to make you any happier, but NESN and every other business in existence is not going to invest money that they can't make back. If they didn't think they'd sell enough DVDs to break even, then that is why. Doesn't matter how much they make on everything else.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 19, 2019 16:26:43 GMT -5
I’m not aware of any of the details, but see no surgery, which to me is just plain shocking, but a major sigh of relief. With that said, I seriously hope this isn’t a case where they do rest and rehabilitation, comes back throwing 87 and then they say, “we should have gotten the surgery, see you in 2022”.
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Post by jackiebradleyjrjr on Aug 19, 2019 16:35:48 GMT -5
I’m not aware of any of the details, but see no surgery, which to me is just plain shocking, but a major sigh of relief. With that said, I seriously hope this isn’t a case where they do rest and rehabilitation, comes back throwing 87 and then they say, “we should have gotten the surgery, see you in 2022”. Exactly my concern. Still I’m relieved!
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 19, 2019 16:54:45 GMT -5
I’m not aware of any of the details, but see no surgery, which to me is just plain shocking, but a major sigh of relief. With that said, I seriously hope this isn’t a case where they do rest and rehabilitation, comes back throwing 87 and then they say, “we should have gotten the surgery, see you in 2022”. I've never seen any pitcher without severely diminished velocity need TJS. He hit 98 his last start. Let's not go down the road of athletes should just get unnecessary surgery just to get it over with for the 100th time here. Pedroia says hi. So do all the pitchers who did not come back from TJS.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 19, 2019 17:00:42 GMT -5
I’m not aware of any of the details, but see no surgery, which to me is just plain shocking, but a major sigh of relief. With that said, I seriously hope this isn’t a case where they do rest and rehabilitation, comes back throwing 87 and then they say, “we should have gotten the surgery, see you in 2022”. I've never seen any pitcher without severely diminished velocity need TJS. He hit 98 his last start. Let's not go down the road of athletes should just get unnecessary surgery just to get it over with for the 100th time here. Pedroia says hi. So do all the pitchers who did not come back from TJS. I'm not saying he should get it for the sake of getting it, but if they say it's something like 50/50 or that there's serious concerns but are going to try rest, then I'm not going to be thrilled. There's probably more failed rehab attempts than not coming back at all from TJ surgery. Pedroia had an experimental procedure from what I understand. I'm still shutting Sale down for the year.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 19, 2019 17:04:47 GMT -5
Also, just because it's the 2019 Red Sox, I'm half expecting, "surgery not likely" and then tomorrow find out he's scheduling an appointment.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 19, 2019 17:05:59 GMT -5
I've never seen any pitcher without severely diminished velocity need TJS. He hit 98 his last start. Let's not go down the road of athletes should just get unnecessary surgery just to get it over with for the 100th time here. Pedroia says hi. So do all the pitchers who did not come back from TJS. I'm not saying he should get it for the sake of getting it, but if they say it's something like 50/50 or that there's serious concerns but are going to try rest, then I'm not going to be thrilled. There's probably more failed rehab attempts than not coming back at all from TJ surgery. Pedroia had an experimental procedure from what I understand. I'm still shutting Sale down for the year. Surgery is always the absolute last resort, even for professional athletes.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 19, 2019 17:10:05 GMT -5
I'm not saying he should get it for the sake of getting it, but if they say it's something like 50/50 or that there's serious concerns but are going to try rest, then I'm not going to be thrilled. There's probably more failed rehab attempts than not coming back at all from TJ surgery. Pedroia had an experimental procedure from what I understand. I'm still shutting Sale down for the year. Surgery is always the absolute last resort, even for professional athletes. But if rehab doesn't work he'll miss basically 2 seasons instead of 1. Pitchers have a history of getting stronger afterwards. Again, not saying he should get it for the sake of getting it. I'm saying if they're saying surgery is likely or that there's enough damage to seriously consider it to go ahead and do it.
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Post by cdj on Aug 19, 2019 17:12:23 GMT -5
VERY pleasantly surprised
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Aug 19, 2019 17:14:27 GMT -5
Surgery is always the absolute last resort, even for professional athletes. But if rehab doesn't work he'll miss basically 2 seasons instead of 1. Pitchers have a history of getting stronger afterwards. Again, not saying he should get it for the sake of getting it. I'm saying if they're saying surgery is likely or that there's enough damage to seriously consider it to go ahead and do it. Is anyone saying that?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 19, 2019 17:18:48 GMT -5
But if rehab doesn't work he'll miss basically 2 seasons instead of 1. Pitchers have a history of getting stronger afterwards. Again, not saying he should get it for the sake of getting it. I'm saying if they're saying surgery is likely or that there's enough damage to seriously consider it to go ahead and do it. Is anyone saying that? I think we're still waiting on the details.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 19, 2019 17:22:18 GMT -5
I think we're still waiting on the details. Dr. Andrews recommended he be shut down for 6 weeks and then he'll reevaluate him.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 19, 2019 17:23:43 GMT -5
I did read on mlb.com that he's likely done for 2019.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 19, 2019 17:24:57 GMT -5
Sometimes inflammation is just inflammation. Agree. However, there still is going to be concern. Still could lead to a tear later. Yeah still not good, but next season might be better looking now.
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Post by patford on Aug 19, 2019 17:26:49 GMT -5
I’m not aware of any of the details, but see no surgery, which to me is just plain shocking, but a major sigh of relief. With that said, I seriously hope this isn’t a case where they do rest and rehabilitation, comes back throwing 87 and then they say, “we should have gotten the surgery, see you in 2022”. Exactly my concern. Still I’m relieved! I really don't think Andrews would tell Sale he didn't need surgery if he needed surgery. Still this whole situation is the trouble with Sale. He simply wears down every year and things seem to be getting worse. Personally I think he ought to consider trying to put on 20 pounds. Even at 200 he would still be on the thin side for someone who is 6'6". I'd bet his old scouting reports read something like this, " Considerable remaining projection. On the skinny side at present." Now it may be that a pitcher "filling out" is not a significant factor and does not mean much of anything but if so why is it stressed in scouting reports ? Sale might want to consider something different. Even with the cautious approach in an attempt to keep him fresh he broke down. That tendency (and I feel this affects him in single innings and games as well) limits his up side which is admittedly one of the best in baseball.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 19, 2019 17:26:58 GMT -5
Chris Sale is getting a PRP injection, not a great sign. Doesn't mean he needs the surgery, but it doesn't mean he doesn't not need it either. We'll need to see in 6 weeks when he's reevaluated.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 19, 2019 17:28:56 GMT -5
Chris Sale is getting a PRP injection, not a great sign. Doesn't mean he needs the surgery, but it doesn't mean he doesn't not need it either. We'll need to see in 6 weeks when he's reevaluated. Ohh man, yeah PRP injections either work or they don't. Most often times they don't. Garrett Richards had the PRP and got Tommy John surgery anyways.
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