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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 29, 2019 22:45:42 GMT -5
Lowell won their division and has clinched a playoff berth. Cannon with his 3rd HR in the nightcap.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 29, 2019 22:58:02 GMT -5
PawSox split.
Cole Sturgeon took the loss in extras for the second game.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 29, 2019 23:44:19 GMT -5
Potomac also won.
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Post by soxfan511 on Aug 30, 2019 5:33:27 GMT -5
Woohoo getting back from my honeymoon in time to check out some Lowell home games live Congrats, hope she's a Sox minors fan. Thanks! And No not really 😂
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 30, 2019 7:05:48 GMT -5
The Salem boxes in Winston-Salem this series did not have pitch counts - that's the "DSL pitch count," as I like to call it, in which balls in play are a strike, a strikeout is 3 strikes, and a walk is 4 balls, and that's all that gets counted.
Salem tweet got deleted.
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Post by soxfan511 on Aug 30, 2019 8:10:23 GMT -5
Bobby Dalbec. Boom number 7 in game 2. Any video of it?
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Post by soxfan511 on Aug 30, 2019 8:18:38 GMT -5
Ockimey with 25 home runs, 79 walks, a decent .838 OPS. Wonder if he’s a hot trade prospect or if his BA and K rate scares away teams. He’s got a good ISO too. Always liked him coming out of the draft
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 30, 2019 8:33:04 GMT -5
Ockimey's a great example how crazy the ball has been in Triple-A. Normally a .265 Iso in Pawtucket would be outstanding, probably league leading. But he's just ninth in the league among IL qualifiers, and there are 14 guys with an Iso over .250. For comparison's sake, there were six players with an Iso over .200 last year, led by Christin Stewart at .216.
EDIT: I actually think the superball has hurt the development of someone like Ockimey, who saw lots of his fly balls carry out of the park early in the year and has gotten understandably fly-ball happy. 28.7% HR/FB rate is doing nothing but inflating his stats artificially. Pitchers are taking advantage of his approach, less willing to give in on location with men on: he's hitting .224/.373/.512 with the bases empty, and .163/.324/.360 with runners in scoring position. 16 of his 25 homers have been solo shots.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 30, 2019 8:58:40 GMT -5
Ockimey with 25 home runs, 79 walks, a decent .838 OPS. Wonder if he’s a hot trade prospect or if his BA and K rate scares away teams. He’s got a good ISO too. Always liked him coming out of the draft No, he's not a hot trade prospect. He's a guy who can't play defense at all and is limited to DH and he can't hit lefties, so now you're talking a platoon DH using up a roster spot. A DH who can hit both lefties and righties is just 1 but when you have to have a RH hitting DH to add to a LH hitting DH that doesn't do much for your roster options, especially in an age where teams keep 12 or 13 pitchers. Plus, despite his excellent walk totals, you have to figure if he's struggling to hit in the majors as his AAA batting average indicates (his whole track record actually), the walks will decrease. He's a guy a rebuilding team can take a chance on, but he's not somebody you give up anything of value to receive in a deal. You wait for a guy like that to be DFA or taken off the 40 man roster. Maybe you give up a LOOGY for him. Or an up and down reliever, but I don't think he's worth much more than that in any trade.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 30, 2019 9:01:24 GMT -5
Ockimey with 25 home runs, 79 walks, a decent .838 OPS. Wonder if he’s a hot trade prospect or if his BA and K rate scares away teams. He’s got a good ISO too. Always liked him coming out of the draft No, he's not a hot trade prospect. He's a guy who can't play defense at all and is limited to DH and he can't hit lefties, so now you're talking a platoon DH using up a roster spot. A DH who can hit both lefties and righties is just 1 but when you have to have a RH hitting DH to add to a LH hitting DH that doesn't do much for your roster options, especially in an age where teams keep 12 or 13 pitchers. Plus, despite his excellent walk totals, you have to figure if he's struggling to hit in the majors as his AAA batting average indicates (his whole track record actually), the walks will decrease. He's a guy a rebuilding team can take a chance on, but he's not somebody you give up anything of value to receive in a deal. You wait for a guy like that to be DFA or taken off the 40 man roster. Maybe you give up a LOOGY for him. Or an up and down reliever, but I don't think he's worth much more than that in any trade. Your post made me point out two things. There won't be LOOGYs anymore next year and rosters are expanding to 26. So I'm sure he'll be of use to some team.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 30, 2019 9:33:26 GMT -5
No, he's not a hot trade prospect. He's a guy who can't play defense at all and is limited to DH and he can't hit lefties, so now you're talking a platoon DH using up a roster spot. A DH who can hit both lefties and righties is just 1 but when you have to have a RH hitting DH to add to a LH hitting DH that doesn't do much for your roster options, especially in an age where teams keep 12 or 13 pitchers. Plus, despite his excellent walk totals, you have to figure if he's struggling to hit in the majors as his AAA batting average indicates (his whole track record actually), the walks will decrease. He's a guy a rebuilding team can take a chance on, but he's not somebody you give up anything of value to receive in a deal. You wait for a guy like that to be DFA or taken off the 40 man roster. Maybe you give up a LOOGY for him. Or an up and down reliever, but I don't think he's worth much more than that in any trade. Your post made me point out two things. There won't be LOOGYs anymore next year and rosters are expanding to 26. So I'm sure he'll be of use to some team. True, but would you figure on a team of giving up much of value for a guy with Ockimey's profile?
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 30, 2019 9:51:14 GMT -5
Your post made me point out two things. There won't be LOOGYs anymore next year and rosters are expanding to 26. So I'm sure he'll be of use to some team. True, but would you figure on a team of giving up much of value for a guy with Ockimey's profile? Absolutely not. But he could get taken in the rule 5 or traded for a lottery ticket.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 30, 2019 12:07:07 GMT -5
True, but would you figure on a team of giving up much of value for a guy with Ockimey's profile? Absolutely not. But he could get taken in the rule 5 or traded for a lottery ticket. I agree. You could realistically get similar production in the majors right now out of Ockimey that you'd get out of someone like Tommy Joseph. Not a rare profile.
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 30, 2019 12:32:35 GMT -5
I compared him to Brian Daubach in another spot and I'm going to keep with that. Very possible he bounces around the minors for a few years until he's about 27, the right situation comes along and he puts together a nice career as a cheap, above-replacement level (with a couple seasons above average) strong side of a platoon. And Daubach had 93 homers plus a couple in the playoffs and is still managing in the minors, so it's not a career path to sneeze at. And maybe it's worth protecting the R5 and see if he can slowly put it together more. There's not a ton of harm stashing him in Pawtucket for awhile, especially while there's some 40-man flexibility.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 30, 2019 12:54:55 GMT -5
True, but would you figure on a team of giving up much of value for a guy with Ockimey's profile? Absolutely not. But he could get taken in the rule 5 or traded for a lottery ticket. Exactly. The question I was trying to answer was: is Ockimey a hot trade commodity and the answer is a clear no.
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