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2019-20 Red Sox offseason
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 29, 2019 23:11:44 GMT -5
All indications are that J D is opting out and pretty much a goner, which is okay with me. I will miss the bat but in the grand scheme of things his money is needed elsewhere. My question is why not just trade him before his opt out date to save the six million that will count against the cbt if he does opt out. A trade to the white Sox for a lottery ticket would make sense for all parties involved.
This offseason will be painful because the Sox are gonna lose and trade a few good players which is a necessary step for the long term success of the franchise. The new GM has to be spot on in his first offseason. It will be a super interesting and very important few months. I’m hoping for a 10/300 Mookie extension that tops my wish list
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Post by dmaineah on Sept 30, 2019 3:54:46 GMT -5
All indications are that J D is opting out and pretty much a goner, which is okay with me. I will miss the bat but in the grand scheme of things his money is needed elsewhere. My question is why not just trade him before his opt out date to save the six million that will count against the cbt if he does opt out. A trade to the white Sox for a lottery ticket would make sense for all parties involved. This offseason will be painful because the Sox are gonna lose and trade a few good players which is a necessary step for the long term success of the franchise. The new GM has to be spot on in his first offseason. It will be a super interesting and very important few months. I’m hoping for a 10/300 Mookie extension that tops my wish list What indications?
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 30, 2019 5:17:14 GMT -5
All indications are that J D is opting out and pretty much a goner, which is okay with me. I will miss the bat but in the grand scheme of things his money is needed elsewhere. My question is why not just trade him before his opt out date to save the six million that will count against the cbt if he does opt out. A trade to the white Sox for a lottery ticket would make sense for all parties involved. This offseason will be painful because the Sox are gonna lose and trade a few good players which is a necessary step for the long term success of the franchise. The new GM has to be spot on in his first offseason. It will be a super interesting and very important few months. I’m hoping for a 10/300 Mookie extension that tops my wish list What indications? www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/09/jd-martinez-comments-on-opt-out.htmlsure, this is all related to getting his best deal, but what i read here is that he is going to want to test the market.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 30, 2019 7:47:57 GMT -5
All indications are that J D is opting out and pretty much a goner, which is okay with me. I will miss the bat but in the grand scheme of things his money is needed elsewhere. My question is why not just trade him before his opt out date to save the six million that will count against the cbt if he does opt out. A trade to the white Sox for a lottery ticket would make sense for all parties involved. This offseason will be painful because the Sox are gonna lose and trade a few good players which is a necessary step for the long term success of the franchise. The new GM has to be spot on in his first offseason. It will be a super interesting and very important few months. I’m hoping for a 10/300 Mookie extension that tops my wish list Why would the White Sox give up for a lottery ticket for a player who won't ever play for them?
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Post by patford on Sept 30, 2019 8:23:33 GMT -5
There is a good argument that Martinez does not have a lot of options as far as teams that would be interested in him and willing to pay more than what he is already making. The #1 player the Sox should try to trade is Chris Sale. Sadly I doubt there is any team in MLB who would be willing to take on his contract.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 30, 2019 8:30:46 GMT -5
I expect that this will be a very sobering offseason.
I'm not sure how the math works. How do they get under 208 million? I guess for them it hinges on whether JDM opts out or not?
If he does they can try to make their offer to Mookie, although I think the 10 year $300 figure that was thrown out in the first post of this thread would be well short of what it'll take to keep Mookie.
I suspect it would take something like 33 million/year if not more for 11 years (if not a 12th season).
I wish the Red Sox could find somebody to take half of Price's contract to free up money, not that it would be that easy to replace Price, but if a high priced (no pun intended) player had to go, I'd part with Price. But that's most likely just a wish.
If JDM decides to opt out after next year then I don't see how the Sox keep Betts and stay under the limit.
If I had to guess, I think JDM will opt out this offseason - it might not be as logical to do so, but it's a gut feeling I have.
Whoever the new Sox GM is - I'm still sticking with Jed Hoyer - he's going to have his work cut out for him.
Ownership is expecting the Red Sox GM to be like Billy Beane circa 2002 when he had just lost Giambi, Damon, and Isringhausen after the 2001 season.
I think that's quite a tall order.
The Red Sox will likely need to replace one or two of Betts/JDM, find a new CF to replace JBJ if he's the way to stay under the luxury tax limit, get a cheap 2b, and add a starter to replace Porcello, find better starting depth options and better bullpen depth options, too.
I honestly don't see how this can happen. I won't say it's impossible, but really, it's hard to see the Red Sox being a force in the AL next season.
The Yankees are superior, despite their starting pitching issues, and frankly, I do think (yeah, I know - I always think the top free agents are coming to NY) that Gerrit Cole will be a Yankee next season - I've read that the Yankees have coveted him for some time - and let's face it, the one thing they truly need is starting pitching - they're strong everywhere else.
I also miscalculated on the strength of other teams, like Cleveland, like Oakland, like Tampa, like Minnesota. These clubs are far better than I thought they'd be. I thought the 93 wins I figured the Sox for would easily get them into the post-season, and as Cleveland found out, that's not the case.
So, right now, despite the underachieving, the Red Sox are a middle of the pack AL team that should have been a bit better, but instead will lose some marquis players, and have no money to bring in the talent that is needed, and little help from the farm at this point - I would expect Dalbec to be the one prospect that can step in and contribute.
If John Henry is so hell bent on getting below $208 million, the term "bridge year" might be a kind description of what 2020 will look like.
And what sucks is, that I really don't believe, with all the revenue that they generate, that they can't afford to stay well above the luxury tax line.
I won't call Henry cheap, because they do spend more than other teams, and they look around and see a team that pays the highest in the league while other teams have far lower payrolls and far more victories in 2019. I get that. They want a Moneyball GM, the modern version, so I guess we'll be seeing WAR/Win $ or whatever the stat is called rather than actual victories be the measuring stick going forward until the time they feel they're close enough to be in a position to go for it.
Until their farm system improves drastically it's hard to see that day coming really soon. I don't think the Sox will really be a force in the league until after the upcoming strike settles.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Sept 30, 2019 8:45:25 GMT -5
Today we can officially celebrate that the Boston Red Sox do not owe Pablo Sandoval one single dollar. When I am very silent, I am almost certain I hear a choir of Cherubim and Seraphim singing joyfully solely because of this.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 30, 2019 9:05:45 GMT -5
So, right now, despite the underachieving, the Red Sox are a middle of the pack AL team that should have been a bit better, but instead will lose some marquis players, and have no money to bring in the talent that is needed, and little help from the farm at this point - I would expect Dalbec to be the one prospect that can step in and contribute. If John Henry is so hell bent on getting below $208 million, the term "bridge year" might be a kind description of what 2020 will look like. And what sucks is, that I really don't believe, with all the revenue that they generate, that they can't afford to stay well above the luxury tax line. I won't call Henry cheap, because they do spend more than other teams, and they look around and see a team that pays the highest in the league while other teams have far lower payrolls and far more victories in 2019. I get that. They want a Moneyball GM, the modern version, so I guess we'll be seeing WAR/Win $ or whatever the stat is called rather than actual victories be the measuring stick going forward until the time they feel they're close enough to be in a position to go for it. Until their farm system improves drastically it's hard to see that day coming really soon. I don't think the Sox will really be a force in the league until after the upcoming strike settles. It is weird to me how obsessed they suddenly seem to be about getting under the luxury tax when they blew through it so deliberately in the first place. Regardless of what the nominal organizational decision tree is, the ultimate veto point on contracts like Sale's or Price's is the guy who's actually responsible for paying them. Henry signed off on all of this. Everyone also knows that all these rules are changing in a couple years anyway. So basically they're sending signals left and right about trading a generational talent because they don't want to take the luxury tax hit for another couple of years? What, do they have a play to finance?
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Post by p23w on Sept 30, 2019 9:07:56 GMT -5
[quote author=" redsox04071318champs" source="/post/400038/thread" timestamp="1569850246" ]I expect that this will be a very sobering offseason.
Sobriety aside, I'm postulating angst, heart break, and remorse. This off season will not be pretty. I'm not sure how the math works. How do they get under 208 million? I guess for them it hinges on whether JDM opts out or not? If he does they can try to make their offer to Mookie, although I think the 10 year $300 figure that was thrown out in the first post of this thread would be well short of what it'll take to keep Mookie. I suspect it would take something like 33 million/year if not more for 11 years (if not a 12th season). I wish the Red Sox could find somebody to take half of Price's contract to free up money, not that it would be that easy to replace Price, but if a high priced (no pun intended) player had to go, I'd part with Price. But that's most likely just a wish. If JDM decides to opt out after next year then I don't see how the Sox keep Betts and stay under the limit. If I had to guess, I think JDM will opt out this offseason - it might not be as logical to do so, but it's a gut feeling I have. Whoever the new Sox GM is - I'm still sticking with Jed Hoyer - he's going to have his work cut out for him.
True dat. I'm just hoping that a post Dombrowski GM does not suffer the same fate as the post Dombrowski Tiger team did. Loosing Mookie/JDM/Porcello without a huge bounce back from Price/Sale/Eovaldi would be devastating. Ownership is expecting the Red Sox GM to be like Billy Beane circa 2002 when he had just lost Giambi, Damon, and Isringhausen after the 2001 season. I think that's quite a tall order. The Red Sox will likely need to replace one or two of Betts/JDM, find a new CF to replace JBJ if he's the way to stay under the luxury tax limit, get a cheap 2b, and add a starter to replace Porcello, find better starting depth options and better bullpen depth options, too. I honestly don't see how this can happen. I won't say it's impossible, but really, it's hard to see the Red Sox being a force in the AL next season. The Yankees are superior, despite their starting pitching issues, and frankly, I do think (yeah, I know - I always think the top free agents are coming to NY) that Gerrit Cole will be a Yankee next season - I've read that the Yankees have coveted him for some time - and let's face it, the one thing they truly need is starting pitching - they're strong everywhere else. I also miscalculated on the strength of other teams, like Cleveland, like Oakland, like Tampa, like Minnesota. These clubs are far better than I thought they'd be. I thought the 93 wins I figured the Sox for would easily get them into the post-season, and as Cleveland found out, that's not the case.
While I can sympathize, I think those teams records have much to do with just how poorly the O's, Royals and Mariner teams were this year. So, right now, despite the underachieving, the Red Sox are a middle of the pack AL team that should have been a bit better, but instead will lose some marquis players, and have no money to bring in the talent that is needed, and little help from the farm at this point - I would expect Dalbec to be the one prospect that can step in and contribute. If John Henry is so hell bent on getting below $208 million, the term "bridge year" might be a kind description of what 2020 will look like. And what sucks is, that I really don't believe, with all the revenue that they generate, that they can't afford to stay well above the luxury tax line. I won't call Henry cheap, because they do spend more than other teams, and they look around and see a team that pays the highest in the league while other teams have far lower payrolls and far more victories in 2019. I get that. They want a Moneyball GM, the modern version, so I guess we'll be seeing WAR/Win $ or whatever the stat is called rather than actual victories be the measuring stick going forward until the time they feel they're close enough to be in a position to go for it. Until their farm system improves drastically it's hard to see that day coming really soon. I don't think the Sox will really be a force in the league until after the upcoming strike settles.[/quote] The farm system is embarrassing at present. Don't know about a strike, but i do know their will be numerous new faces in the dugout next year and Cora needs to nurture better chemistry from day one of Spring Training.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 30, 2019 9:12:14 GMT -5
[quote author=" redsox04071318champs" source="/post/400038/thread" timestamp="1569850246" ]I expect that this will be a very sobering offseason.
Sobriety aside, I'm postulating angst, heart break, and remorse. This off season will not be pretty. I'm not sure how the math works. How do they get under 208 million? I guess for them it hinges on whether JDM opts out or not? If he does they can try to make their offer to Mookie, although I think the 10 year $300 figure that was thrown out in the first post of this thread would be well short of what it'll take to keep Mookie. I suspect it would take something like 33 million/year if not more for 11 years (if not a 12th season). I wish the Red Sox could find somebody to take half of Price's contract to free up money, not that it would be that easy to replace Price, but if a high priced (no pun intended) player had to go, I'd part with Price. But that's most likely just a wish. If JDM decides to opt out after next year then I don't see how the Sox keep Betts and stay under the limit. If I had to guess, I think JDM will opt out this offseason - it might not be as logical to do so, but it's a gut feeling I have. Whoever the new Sox GM is - I'm still sticking with Jed Hoyer - he's going to have his work cut out for him.
True dat. I'm just hoping that a post Dombrowski GM does not suffer the same fate as the post Dombrowski Tiger team did. Loosing Mookie/JDM/Porcello without a huge bounce back from Price/Sale/Eovaldi would be devastating. Ownership is expecting the Red Sox GM to be like Billy Beane circa 2002 when he had just lost Giambi, Damon, and Isringhausen after the 2001 season. I think that's quite a tall order. The Red Sox will likely need to replace one or two of Betts/JDM, find a new CF to replace JBJ if he's the way to stay under the luxury tax limit, get a cheap 2b, and add a starter to replace Porcello, find better starting depth options and better bullpen depth options, too. I honestly don't see how this can happen. I won't say it's impossible, but really, it's hard to see the Red Sox being a force in the AL next season. The Yankees are superior, despite their starting pitching issues, and frankly, I do think (yeah, I know - I always think the top free agents are coming to NY) that Gerrit Cole will be a Yankee next season - I've read that the Yankees have coveted him for some time - and let's face it, the one thing they truly need is starting pitching - they're strong everywhere else. I also miscalculated on the strength of other teams, like Cleveland, like Oakland, like Tampa, like Minnesota. These clubs are far better than I thought they'd be. I thought the 93 wins I figured the Sox for would easily get them into the post-season, and as Cleveland found out, that's not the case.
While I can sympathize, I think those teams records have much to do with just how poorly the O's, Royals and Mariner teams were this year. So, right now, despite the underachieving, the Red Sox are a middle of the pack AL team that should have been a bit better, but instead will lose some marquis players, and have no money to bring in the talent that is needed, and little help from the farm at this point - I would expect Dalbec to be the one prospect that can step in and contribute. If John Henry is so hell bent on getting below $208 million, the term "bridge year" might be a kind description of what 2020 will look like. And what sucks is, that I really don't believe, with all the revenue that they generate, that they can't afford to stay well above the luxury tax line. I won't call Henry cheap, because they do spend more than other teams, and they look around and see a team that pays the highest in the league while other teams have far lower payrolls and far more victories in 2019. I get that. They want a Moneyball GM, the modern version, so I guess we'll be seeing WAR/Win $ or whatever the stat is called rather than actual victories be the measuring stick going forward until the time they feel they're close enough to be in a position to go for it. Until their farm system improves drastically it's hard to see that day coming really soon. I don't think the Sox will really be a force in the league until after the upcoming strike settles.The farm system is embarrassing at present. Don't know about a strike, but i do know their will be numerous new faces in the dugout next year and Cora needs to nurture better chemistry from day one of Spring Training.[/quote] The point about the strike I was trying to make is that I think the players and owners are headed in that direction and there will be numerous changes (perhaps including the "dreaded" luxury tax that Henry worries about). I figure that strike hits around 2022 or so, which gives the Sox a couple of years to drastically improve the farm system so that by the time 2023 rolls around the Sox should hopefully have a higher level of prospects coming up to improve the ballclub. I can't see the farm system being that drastically improved before then. It took some steps forward in 2019 but has a long way to go and it's going to take time. And yes, while it's a reflection on how poorly the Royals, Tigers, Orioles, etc. were, which helped make those other clubs have gaudy winning records, where was that with the Red Sox? I think it kept them above .500 and that's it. It didn't help turn them into a 95 win team.
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Post by borisman on Sept 30, 2019 9:16:10 GMT -5
Will we receive draft pick compensation if JD signs elsewhere?
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 30, 2019 9:50:55 GMT -5
Not great news on Chavis, whose injuries really have been a hindrance on his ability to build on and sustain success throughout his pro career.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 30, 2019 10:13:24 GMT -5
Today we can officially celebrate that the Boston Red Sox do not owe Pablo Sandoval one single dollar. When I am very silent, I am almost certain I hear a choir of Cherubim and Seraphim singing joyfully solely because of this. You'll want to leave at least a little champagne in that glass. The Sox still owe him $5 million in 2020, so those angels are still singing the blues.
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Post by mobaz on Sept 30, 2019 10:23:45 GMT -5
Interesting interview from Sam Kennedy, I've been following along with Speier's tweets. I thought this one in particular was interesting/relevant.
Also this:
I wonder if a contributing factor in the GM instability is the ownership is lacking a cohesive communication of vision, so while they let their GMs make independent decisions, they hold them accountable to a standard they haven't set or enforced.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 30, 2019 11:14:59 GMT -5
All indications are that J D is opting out and pretty much a goner, which is okay with me. I will miss the bat but in the grand scheme of things his money is needed elsewhere. My question is why not just trade him before his opt out date to save the six million that will count against the cbt if he does opt out. A trade to the white Sox for a lottery ticket would make sense for all parties involved. This offseason will be painful because the Sox are gonna lose and trade a few good players which is a necessary step for the long term success of the franchise. The new GM has to be spot on in his first offseason. It will be a super interesting and very important few months. I’m hoping for a 10/300 Mookie extension that tops my wish list Why would the White Sox give up for a lottery ticket for a player who won't ever play for them? Same reason why they traded for Alonso and signed john jay when they were trying to sign Manny. They are looking for any advantage to sign a premium free agent. If the white Sox offer him the best deal why would he not go there?
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 30, 2019 11:19:31 GMT -5
Jay and Alonso actually were under contract to play games for them though. Your thinking is that they're going to trade a prospect for him in exchange for a ten-day negotiating period? And if someone is willing to trade for him, isn't that just a signal for Martinez that there's a market for him? Not to mention that a trade would release him of any potential QO restrictions, which would be an extra incentive to opt out.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 30, 2019 11:35:40 GMT -5
Jay and Alonso actually were under contract to play games for them though. Your thinking is that they're going to trade a prospect for him in exchange for a ten-day negotiating period? And if someone is willing to trade for him, isn't that just a signal for Martinez that there's a market for him? Not to mention that a trade would release him of any potential QO restrictions, which would be an extra incentive to opt out. I really couldn’t care less who they get back. It could a 29 old career minor leaguer, a lottery ticket would be nice but my main motivation is the 6 million savings on the cbt. If the white Sox traded for JD what would they have to lose? Add. What’s more important to the Red Sox right now a 4th round pick or the 6 million savings on the cbt? Add. Plus like I said in my original post it sounds like the decision to opt out and move on has already been made based on his comments, I’m just trying to find a way to keep Mookie and if it costs jd, I’m ok with that
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 30, 2019 11:41:50 GMT -5
Jay and Alonso actually were under contract to play games for them though. Your thinking is that they're going to trade a prospect for him in exchange for a ten-day negotiating period? And if someone is willing to trade for him, isn't that just a signal for Martinez that there's a market for him? Not to mention that a trade would release him of any potential QO restrictions, which would be an extra incentive to opt out. I really couldn’t care less who they get back. It could a 29 old career minor leaguer, a lottery ticket would be nice but my main motivation is the 6 million savings on the cbt. If the white Sox traded for JD what would they have to lose? Add. What’s more important to the Red Sox right now a 4th round pick or the 6 million savings on the cbt? A 29 year old minor leaguer is either a) a minor league free agent or b) someone the White Sox have intentionally signed for 2020 because they think he has value. Even leaving aside the very valuable 4th round bonus pool money, the question isn't whether the Red Sox want the pick more than the CBT savings. If Martinez is traded, the White Sox can't offer him the QO. If Martinez can't be offered the QO, he's more valuable to the rest of the teams in the league who aren't involved in this transaction because he won't cost a draft pick, and is therefore more likely to opt out, making his 10-day negotiating window--already not worth a whole lot--worth even less to the White Sox than it would be to the Red Sox.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 30, 2019 11:42:50 GMT -5
I really couldn’t care less who they get back. It could a 29 old career minor leaguer, a lottery ticket would be nice but my main motivation is the 6 million savings on the cbt. If the white Sox traded for JD what would they have to lose? Add. What’s more important to the Red Sox right now a 4th round pick or the 6 million savings on the cbt? A 29 year old minor leaguer is either a) a minor league free agent or b) someone the White Sox have intentionally signed for 2020 because they think he has value. My point is I don’t care who we get back and that was in the sentence above
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 30, 2019 11:43:31 GMT -5
Jay and Alonso actually were under contract to play games for them though. Your thinking is that they're going to trade a prospect for him in exchange for a ten-day negotiating period? And if someone is willing to trade for him, isn't that just a signal for Martinez that there's a market for him? Not to mention that a trade would release him of any potential QO restrictions, which would be an extra incentive to opt out. I really couldn’t care less who they get back. It could a 29 old career minor leaguer, a lottery ticket would be nice but my main motivation is the 6 million savings on the cbt. If the white Sox traded for JD what would they have to lose? Add. What’s more important to the Red Sox right now a 4th round pick or the 6 million savings on the cbt? It has a 0.0% chance of happening. It's not a matter of what's important. Why would the White Sox pay him $6 million to never play a game for them? The Red Sox would have to add prospects, not the White Sox.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Sept 30, 2019 11:48:56 GMT -5
I really couldn’t care less who they get back. It could a 29 old career minor leaguer, a lottery ticket would be nice but my main motivation is the 6 million savings on the cbt. If the white Sox traded for JD what would they have to lose? Add. What’s more important to the Red Sox right now a 4th round pick or the 6 million savings on the cbt? It has a 0.0% chance of happening. It's not a matter of what's important. Why would the White Sox pay him $6 million to never play a game for them? The Red Sox would have to add prospects, not the White Sox. They wouldn’t have to pay him anything. Read the Boston globe article it explains on why if jd opts out Red Sox are on the hook for 6 million to count against the cbt in 2020.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 30, 2019 12:05:41 GMT -5
If JDM opts out that’s one thing, but I want him to stay. He’s the greatest DH since Big Papi, and despite the Front Office and some here saying they could replace Ortiz’s offensive production by spreading it out over two or more positions it never happened and I have zero confidence that it will play out that way this time, unless they get Anthony Rendon for 1st base, which ain’t happening.
Hell, I’m off the opposite mind here - go get Cole, pay JDM $2-3M more a season, keep Mookie for at least one more year and go for it all. Anything less and there’s no way this team gets to 100+ wins next year, which seems to be the going rate for a division title. After that the new CBA is up and if the Luxury Tax does not get a serious upward adjustment, then you work to get below - and someone like Price and Eovaldi may be more palatable with less underwriting in trades for other teams, JBJ walks, and maybe one or two other moves (Mookie - gasp - looks like a FA goner IMHOP). But don’t blow up the core with one more year of this offense available.
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Post by patford on Sept 30, 2019 12:08:16 GMT -5
It is weird to me how obsessed they suddenly seem to be about getting under the luxury tax when they blew through it so deliberately in the first place. Regardless of what the nominal organizational decision tree is, the ultimate veto point on contracts like Sale's or Price's is the guy who's actually responsible for paying them. Henry signed off on all of this. Everyone also knows that all these rules are changing in a couple years anyway. So basically they're sending signals left and right about trading a generational talent because they don't want to take the luxury tax hit for another couple of years? What, do they have a play to finance? I don't know that Betts can be considered a generational talent. There are a pretty large number of very young players who put up incredible numbers this year. He's really good for sure. I do think the Sox should resign him even if it means basically giving away Sale (and Price) to any team that would take them.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 30, 2019 12:18:03 GMT -5
It has a 0.0% chance of happening. It's not a matter of what's important. Why would the White Sox pay him $6 million to never play a game for them? The Red Sox would have to add prospects, not the White Sox. They wouldn’t have to pay him anything. Read the Boston globe article it explains on why if jd opts out Red Sox are on the hook for 6 million to count against the cbt in 2020. I don't care. They're not doing the Red Sox favors.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 30, 2019 12:35:28 GMT -5
It is weird to me how obsessed they suddenly seem to be about getting under the luxury tax when they blew through it so deliberately in the first place. Regardless of what the nominal organizational decision tree is, the ultimate veto point on contracts like Sale's or Price's is the guy who's actually responsible for paying them. Henry signed off on all of this. Everyone also knows that all these rules are changing in a couple years anyway. So basically they're sending signals left and right about trading a generational talent because they don't want to take the luxury tax hit for another couple of years? What, do they have a play to finance? I don't know that Betts can be considered a generational talent. There are a pretty large number of very young players who put up incredible numbers this year. He's really good for sure. I do think the Sox should resign him even if it means basically giving away Sale (and Price) to any team that would take them. Here's the complete list of active players who are definitely better than Mookie Betts: 1. Mike Trout
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