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MLB Division Series Gameday Thread
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Post by kevfc89 on Oct 5, 2019 17:25:27 GMT -5
twins are really a joke organization. headed for losing their 15th playoff game in a row.
and yea, if the second starter you send out in the playoffs is randy dobnak, what are you even doing? twins are fortunate to get to beat up on the whitesox, tigers, and royals for a bunch of games this year.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 5, 2019 17:37:29 GMT -5
Twins need Kevin Millar now asking everyone "Why not us?"
Did anyone ask the question about why Dobnak started instead of anyone else? They have better pitchers.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 5, 2019 17:51:19 GMT -5
I remember when the Twins won the World Series twice within 5 seasons, but of course that's when the Yankees weren't a factor. Everytime the Twins get into the playoffs they run into the Yankees and get their butts kicked. The only series recently I remember them winning was beating the Moneyball A's out of the playoffs before the Angels beat them on their way to their only World Series win.
The Twins can't even beat the Yankees in the regular season. They're like a sub-.300 team against the Yankees going way back. It's a freaking joke. This series is an easy layup for the Yankees. Hope the Astros have it as easy, because they're our only hope.
If the Astros don't beat the Yankees, the MFYs are going to win the World Series, which would really, really suck. The only silver lining would be they didn't eliminate the Red Sox in the post-season, which would be awful - but of course that's because the Sox got their butts handed to them by the Yankees in the regular season and failed to even make the playoffs, which right now, I don't feel too bad about.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 5, 2019 17:53:36 GMT -5
Dodgers can still beat any team including the Astros.
Twins are a good example of how a team without good plate discipline has that problem magnified by about 100 in the postseason (or in any games against teams like the Yankees). They just keep getting themselves out over and over again.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 5, 2019 18:18:30 GMT -5
Dodgers can still beat any team including the Astros. Twins are a good example of how a team without good plate discipline has that problem magnified by about 100 in the postseason (or in any games against teams like the Yankees). They just keep getting themselves out over and over again. I'm not even 100% convinced that the Dodgers will beat the Nationals. They SHOULD beat them, but I don't know. The Nats have a way of beating themselves in big games. I wonder if they'll get their revenge for Blue Monday in 1981 when Rick Monday prevented the Expos from going to the World Series, not that it would do the people of Montreal any good. Hopefully they'll get a good team when they inherit the Rays a few years down the road. All I know is that the Dodgers REALLY need to capitalize this October. They don't want to become the Buffalo Bills of baseball.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 5, 2019 18:21:36 GMT -5
I feel like throwing up. How nauseating can this be ? The friggin Twins lay down for the friggin Yankees.
Next time somebody posts that, which is actually right now, I hope some folks dont respond it aint true. Well....it is true.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Oct 5, 2019 18:33:10 GMT -5
Yanks could have pulled Tanaka after 3 inn, up 8-0. Started him in game 4. Right now, Yanks don't have a game 4 starter. Happ? Paxton on short rest?
I know it doesn't matter, but that game 4 problem provides an opening for whatever.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 5, 2019 18:41:09 GMT -5
twins are really a joke organization. headed for losing their 15th playoff game in a row.and yea, if the second starter you send out in the playoffs is randy dobnak, what are you even doing? twins are fortunate to get to beat up on the whitesox, tigers, and royals for a bunch of games this year. is that true ? I mean what are the odds of that happening ? They are playoff team for fux sake.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 5, 2019 18:47:29 GMT -5
If the Red Sox played the Yankees like the Twins do, they would lose their entire fan base.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 5, 2019 19:27:27 GMT -5
Yanks could have pulled Tanaka after 3 inn, up 8-0. Started him in game 4. Right now, Yanks don't have a game 4 starter. Happ? Paxton on short rest? I know it doesn't matter, but that game 4 problem provides an opening for whatever. It really doesn't matter, because there isn't going to be a Game 4 of the ALDS. The Yankees will easily sweep the Twins.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 5, 2019 19:28:38 GMT -5
If the Red Sox played the Yankees like the Twins do, they would lose their entire fan base. How the Red Sox played the Yankees (5-14) in 2019 is how the Twins have played the Yankees for years.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 5, 2019 19:38:33 GMT -5
twins are really a joke organization. headed for losing their 15th playoff game in a row.and yea, if the second starter you send out in the playoffs is randy dobnak, what are you even doing? twins are fortunate to get to beat up on the whitesox, tigers, and royals for a bunch of games this year. is that true ? I mean what are the odds of that happening ? They are playoff team for fux sake. Well, at one point, the Red Sox lost 13 straight post-season games and 18 of 19, so the Red Sox have done that. Starting with their horrendous Game 6 1986 World Series loss, they lost the last two games to the Mets, got swept 4 straight in 1988 by the A's, and then another 4 straight by the A's in 1990, and then they were swept in the 1995 ALDS by the Indians 3 straight to run their post-season losing streak to 13 games. The Red Sox finally broke that losing streak thanks to Pedro and Mo Vaughn in the opening game of the 1998 ALDS against Cleveland. But then the Indians took the next 3 straight to eliminate the Red Sox and a year later in 1999 the Indians took the first two games of the ALDS to make it 5 more post-season losses in a row or 18 of 19. Then out of nowhere the Red Sox took the next 3 games to beat Cleveland (thanks to John Valentin, Troy O'Leary, and the heroic Pedro), but then lost 4 of 5 to NYY in the 1999 ALCS and then lost the first two games of the 2003 ALDS aginst Oakland to make it a stretch of losing 24 of 29 post-season games. From that point on, they have a cumulative post-season record of 57-35 to go along with their 4 championships (and that includes losing 6 of 7 from 2016 thru 2017 and of course going 44-14 during their championship runs).
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 5, 2019 20:48:53 GMT -5
Dodgers can still beat any team including the Astros. Twins are a good example of how a team without good plate discipline has that problem magnified by about 100 in the postseason (or in any games against teams like the Yankees). They just keep getting themselves out over and over again. I'm not even 100% convinced that the Dodgers will beat the Nationals. They SHOULD beat them, but I don't know. The Nats have a way of beating themselves in big games. I wonder if they'll get their revenge for Blue Monday in 1981 when Rick Monday prevented the Expos from going to the World Series, not that it would do the people of Montreal any good. Hopefully they'll get a good team when they inherit the Rays a few years down the road. All I know is that the Dodgers REALLY need to capitalize this October. They don't want to become the Buffalo Bills of baseball. I'd keep doing exactly what they're doing. Eventually it will work out. They have enough youth, incredible depth and incredible prospects to think they'll do this for quite awhile.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 5, 2019 21:21:32 GMT -5
This is where Blake Snell falls apart. Bottom of the 4th.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 5, 2019 21:21:52 GMT -5
I'm not even 100% convinced that the Dodgers will beat the Nationals. They SHOULD beat them, but I don't know. The Nats have a way of beating themselves in big games. I wonder if they'll get their revenge for Blue Monday in 1981 when Rick Monday prevented the Expos from going to the World Series, not that it would do the people of Montreal any good. Hopefully they'll get a good team when they inherit the Rays a few years down the road. All I know is that the Dodgers REALLY need to capitalize this October. They don't want to become the Buffalo Bills of baseball. I'd keep doing exactly what they're doing. Eventually it will work out. They have enough youth, incredible depth and incredible prospects to think they'll do this for quite awhile. My feeling is that if you keep knocking on the door sooner or later somebody is going to let you in. That said, the flipside is that here they are still waiting for a championship. I hope they eventually get it. Even the Braves did win a Series, even though they had like 14 post-seasons in a row to do so. What the Red Sox did was scary. They went for it big-time in 2018 and it actually did pay off, because if it didn't I'd have hated 2019 a lot more than I actually did - and I did hate 2019. I'd hate to see the Dodgers "do the right thing" by being great year in and year out without sacrificing the future and not be rewarded at some point. Besides, I'd like to see Vin Scully, Tommy LaSorda, Sandy Koufax, and Dave Roberts enjoy another World Championship.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 5, 2019 21:25:18 GMT -5
Alvarez looks as scary as 40 year old Papi every time he's at the plate.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 5, 2019 21:26:38 GMT -5
This is where Blake Snell falls apart. Bottom of the 4th. I guess I called one home run. Quick hook.
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Post by kevfc89 on Oct 5, 2019 21:35:06 GMT -5
Bregman, amazing player. but 41 homers this year? cmon...that level of power is the product of that home park plus juiced ball.
His average home run distance this year was just 382 feet, ranked close to the bottom on the statcast leaderboard and tied with guys like Sandy Leon and Brett Gardner (who himself had a career year in home runs hitting 28 of them thanks to stadium and ball).
Bregman's slugging percentage was .592 while his statcast expected slugging was just .447. Guy lofted a bunch of pop flies to left field all year and got big reward.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 5, 2019 23:04:56 GMT -5
Cole should have been taken out after d'Amaud's long AB.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 5, 2019 23:40:21 GMT -5
Regardless of who you want to win, it's always great to see Osuna fail.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 5, 2019 23:54:18 GMT -5
is that true ? I mean what are the odds of that happening ? They are playoff team for fux sake. Well, at one point, the Red Sox lost 13 straight post-season games and 18 of 19, so the Red Sox have done that. Starting with their horrendous Game 6 1986 World Series loss, they lost the last two games to the Mets, got swept 4 straight in 1988 by the A's, and then another 4 straight by the A's in 1990, and then they were swept in the 1995 ALDS by the Indians 3 straight to run their post-season losing streak to 13 games. The Red Sox finally broke that losing streak thanks to Pedro and Mo Vaughn in the opening game of the 1998 ALDS against Cleveland. But then the Indians took the next 3 straight to eliminate the Red Sox and a year later in 1999 the Indians took the first two games of the ALDS to make it 5 more post-season losses in a row or 18 of 19. Then out of nowhere the Red Sox took the next 3 games to beat Cleveland (thanks to John Valentin, Troy O'Leary, and the heroic Pedro), but then lost 4 of 5 to NYY in the 1999 ALCS and then lost the first two games of the 2003 ALDS aginst Oakland to make it a stretch of losing 24 of 29 post-season games. From that point on, they have a cumulative post-season record of 57-35 to go along with their 4 championships (and that includes losing 6 of 7 from 2016 thru 2017 and of course going 44-14 during their championship runs). i can always count on you bringing up historical facts, you are supreme at that. I didn't remember, although now i do and have a case of severe anxiety because of how frustrated i was watching all those series many years ago. There is something to be said that 86 debacle cost our franchise for a decade or 2. Still the Twins are ridiculous and I don't get it. Sure, they are trying, but GD, they MFY's own the clowns like no other. That said, i expect the Twins to win game 3.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 5, 2019 23:56:13 GMT -5
Now with 2 games under the belt, both AL favorites are up 2-0 and both NL favorites have lost home field advantage at 1-1.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 6, 2019 0:01:47 GMT -5
Regardless of who you want to win, it's always great to see Osuna fail. Ideal outcome. Cole dominates, Osuna embarasses himself, 'stros hold on.
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Post by soxjim on Oct 6, 2019 11:58:30 GMT -5
I'd keep doing exactly what they're doing. Eventually it will work out. They have enough youth, incredible depth and incredible prospects to think they'll do this for quite awhile. My feeling is that if you keep knocking on the door sooner or later somebody is going to let you in.
That said, the flipside is that here they are still waiting for a championship. I hope they eventually get it. Even the Braves did win a Series, even though they had like 14 post-seasons in a row to do so. What the Red Sox did was scary. They went for it big-time in 2018 and it actually did pay off, because if it didn't I'd have hated 2019 a lot more than I actually did - and I did hate 2019. I'd hate to see the Dodgers "do the right thing" by being great year in and year out without sacrificing the future and not be rewarded at some point. Besides, I'd like to see Vin Scully, Tommy LaSorda, Sandy Koufax, and Dave Roberts enjoy another World Championship. I don't agree. Nobody let the Bills in. Nobody let the old Minny Vikings with Tarkenton in. With all these great Indian Teams nobody let them in. I can only hope it's the same with the Dodgers and ofc worse than them the Yanks. I'm not sold like you and jimed that they will eventually win it all in the near future which both of you seem to imply. I definitely think they have damn good chance to win how they are constructed but imo they are behind the Astros and the Yanks. And the Yanks are "picking up" Andujar next year. The dude on fangraphs last year (Sullivan I think?) said he thought Andujar would be better than Devers. As far as what the SOx did being "scary." It won and the Dodgers haven't. The Dodgers tried a bit with Machado and Darvish the past two years- they haven't really hit with FA's I think. Darvish, Machado and Pollock haven't been what they thought while the Yanks and Astros seem to hit on everything. As far as the SOx-- in 2013 and 2018 they produced. They made moves such as Eovaldi and Pearce. I think Dodgers are at risk if they don't look to make some big moves in FA or get some steals like Sox did last year or Yanks for example with LeMehieu. There are always "upstarts" too and teams that get hot.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Oct 6, 2019 12:22:50 GMT -5
Obviously the Dodgers are never going to win a World Series, those clowns don't even have Steve Pearce on their roster.
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