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Post by jimed14 on Jan 23, 2020 18:03:38 GMT -5
It's so bizarre that Felix Hernandez signed a minor league deal with the Braves. He's only 33 years old.
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Post by ramireja on Jan 23, 2020 18:26:34 GMT -5
It's so bizarre that Felix Hernandez signed a minor league deal with the Braves. He's only 33 years old. Remember though, he broke into the majors at 19 and never relinquished his position. He's crossed the 190 IP threshold in the regular season 10 times (200 IP 8X, 230IP 5X). He may only be 33 but thats a lot of mileage on his arm, and from a performance standpoint, a minor league deal comes as no surprise.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 23, 2020 18:33:55 GMT -5
It's so bizarre that Felix Hernandez signed a minor league deal with the Braves. He's only 33 years old. Remember though, he broke into the majors at 19 and never relinquished his position. He's crossed the 190 IP threshold in the regular season 10 times (200 IP 8X, 230IP 5X). He may only be 33 but thats a lot of mileage on his arm, and from a performance standpoint, a minor league deal comes as no surprise. Oh I totally get how much he's pitched and how he's a shell of his former self now. It's just an insane idea if you said it 5-6 years ago.
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Post by jimmydugan on Jan 23, 2020 18:45:13 GMT -5
It's so bizarre that Felix Hernandez signed a minor league deal with the Braves. He's only 33 years old. Remember though, he broke into the majors at 19 and never relinquished his position. He's crossed the 190 IP threshold in the regular season 10 times (200 IP 8X, 230IP 5X). He may only be 33 but thats a lot of mileage on his arm, and from a performance standpoint, a minor league deal comes as no surprise. I wonder if that was part of the issue with Porcello this year. He turned 31 this offseason but already has >2000 major league innings.
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 24, 2020 8:27:34 GMT -5
Remember though, he broke into the majors at 19 and never relinquished his position. He's crossed the 190 IP threshold in the regular season 10 times (200 IP 8X, 230IP 5X). He may only be 33 but thats a lot of mileage on his arm, and from a performance standpoint, a minor league deal comes as no surprise. I wonder if that was part of the issue with Porcello this year. He turned 31 this offseason but already has >2000 major league innings. Maybe somewhat, and I think your point is a fair one, but Porcello's stuff hasn't regressed in the way Hernandez's has. Porcello's overly mistake-prone, whereas with Hernandez the issue is more that the pitches aren't good. Look at the whiff rates over the years, notably on the change, which was his best pitch in his prime: www.brooksbaseball.net/outcome.php?player=433587&b_hand=-1&gFilt=&pFilt=FA|SI|FC|CU|SL|CS|KN|CH|FS|SB&time=month&minmax=ci&var=whiff&s_type=2&startDate=03/30/2007&endDate=01/24/2020I few years ago I'd have guessed that Hernandez would have a late career something like Sabathia's, where the velocity erodes but the command was so good that he would settle in as a mid-rotation starter. So the moral here is don't lisen to me.
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Post by Guidas on Jan 25, 2020 18:00:14 GMT -5
And here I thought last off-season was awful on a variety of levels. This one has it beat by far.
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Post by prospectjunkie21 on Jan 27, 2020 14:16:22 GMT -5
Dbacks closing in on a deal for starling marte from pitt
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 27, 2020 14:20:36 GMT -5
Dbacks closing in on a deal for starling marte from pitt Oh that should raise San Diego's desire to get Betts as that fallback trade is disappearing.
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Post by prospectjunkie21 on Jan 27, 2020 14:23:06 GMT -5
Dbacks closing in on a deal for starling marte from pitt Oh that should raise San Diego's desire to get Betts as that fallback trade is disappearing. Seems like the three west teams are in an arms race of sorts and there is a lot of leveraging going on between all parties invlvoled. Agree the dbacks landing him increases sox' leverage.
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Post by prospectjunkie21 on Jan 27, 2020 14:27:33 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 27, 2020 14:28:23 GMT -5
Reported as done.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 27, 2020 14:46:04 GMT -5
Peguero and Malone for Marte
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Post by taftreign on Jan 27, 2020 14:59:17 GMT -5
Interesting prospects but there is a high risk in that return. Two 18 year olds that are 3 or 4 years away at the least.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 28, 2020 11:16:52 GMT -5
Bob Nightengale reporting the Astros will name Dusty Baker manager. Within 20 minutes the report has been refuted.
Between this and Jim Bowden getting fooled by another fake Twitter account yesterday, a reminder to consider your source.
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Post by soxin8 on Jan 28, 2020 15:53:08 GMT -5
Remember though, he broke into the majors at 19 and never relinquished his position. He's crossed the 190 IP threshold in the regular season 10 times (200 IP 8X, 230IP 5X). He may only be 33 but thats a lot of mileage on his arm, and from a performance standpoint, a minor league deal comes as no surprise. Oh I totally get how much he's pitched and how he's a shell of his former self now. It's just an insane idea if you said it 5-6 years ago. When pitchers like Felix are done at 33, it just makes someone like Ryan seem superhuman/other worldly. www.startribune.com/40-years-ago-saturday-nolan-ryan-threw-235-pitches-in-a-game/263064361/(and Tiant too who pitched into the 15th inning in that game, Yaz with the two run 9th inning homer to force extras)
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Post by manfred on Jan 28, 2020 16:06:50 GMT -5
It is wild. We might say passing 190 innings is a lot, but there was a time it was a whole other matter. I love looking at guys like Jim Palmer, most of the 1970s averaging over 280 innings a season. ‘75-‘77 averaging 23 complete games. I suspect the issue is not as much innings as % of pitches guys max out on now. Just a supposition, but when you have starters with fastballs in the high 90s, one wonders if they might not be better served dialing it back and only calling on the huge fastball situationally.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 28, 2020 16:31:38 GMT -5
It is wild. We might say passing 190 innings is a lot, but there was a time it was a whole other matter. I love looking at guys like Jim Palmer, most of the 1970s averaging over 280 innings a season. ‘75-‘77 averaging 23 complete games. I suspect the issue is not as much innings as % of pitches guys max out on now. Just a supposition, but when you have starters with fastballs in the high 90s, one wonders if they might not be better served dialing it back and only calling on the huge fastball situationally. Nolan Ryan was an outlier even in his day. Felix had a 15 year career; that’s a long time. Verlander looked like he was on the way down then he reinvented the way he threw and used less arm and now drives from his legs he’s also an outlier.
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Post by orion09 on Jan 28, 2020 22:59:22 GMT -5
Here’s a beautiful sonnet from the MLBTR comment section
“Is Dusty rusty? He’s old and crusty. A little musty. But Stros can’t be fussy. The winds of controversy are gusty. He’ll be fine so long as he doesn’t get lusty for a busty hussy.“
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 29, 2020 20:19:05 GMT -5
LOL, these are going to be a giant flop. Massachusetts - George Washington ? ? ?
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 29, 2020 20:27:07 GMT -5
That's Paul Revere. But still ridiculous.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 29, 2020 20:32:32 GMT -5
That's Paul Revere. But still ridiculous. Saw this reply in the comments. George Washington statue in Boston:
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Post by p23w on Jan 29, 2020 20:35:07 GMT -5
LOL, these are going to be a giant flop. Massachusetts - George Washington ? ? ? Knox and Revere on either side of the "B"... ditch the lobster altogether.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Jan 29, 2020 21:00:16 GMT -5
That's Paul Revere. But still ridiculous. Saw this reply in the comments. George Washington statue in Boston: I think he got it right - looks more like Revere, which would make far more sense.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 29, 2020 21:18:29 GMT -5
Good snooping. Paul Revere makes more sense. Hat still S*cks.
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 29, 2020 21:27:18 GMT -5
The Paul Revere logo would be pretty sweet if it was centered and the only logo on the cap. Like, if MLB did a money-grabbing City Weekend and every team wore alternate caps - if it was just the Paul Revere statue I would probably indulge in their money grabbing.
EDIT: Now I'm looking at the whole series. What the hell? Is the consensus that these are hideous, or am I just that old and out of touch? (Or both, I'm guessing both).
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