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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 16, 2020 21:29:21 GMT -5
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 17, 2020 16:31:16 GMT -5
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Post by artfuldodger on Jan 17, 2020 17:33:01 GMT -5
I wonder how the Hall of Fame voters eventually view the Astros and Red Sox hitters.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 18, 2020 12:04:02 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 18, 2020 13:35:29 GMT -5
I'm sorry, that reads more like the sad whining of a Yankee fan who needs an editor, credulously believing everything possible to up the "whoa is me" ante. Like: "Let’s go back to the 2019 ALCS. Top of the ninth inning, down 2-4 in a do-or-die for the New York Yankees. They’re in Houston with a runner on when the breakout star DJ LeMahieu steps up to the plate. He launches an opposite-field bomb to tie up the game. Then Altuve sends an Aroldis Chapman slider over the fence and wins the ALCS for Houston in the bottom half of the inning. Hopes and dreams were crushed. That was it. The magic was over. The game-tying homer meant nothing. A heavy price they pay for playing a talented team, however, what if it wasn’t talent? Altuve took a slider on the upper left side of the plate and pulled it for a home run, but how could that be? Altuve isn’t a good breaking ball hitter, hitting .260 with a .405 SLG%. " Is that good writing? No. But is the analysis at least sound? Also no.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 18, 2020 13:51:59 GMT -5
Maybe but didn't that look on Chapmans face have a little bit more going on? Like maybe he knew something? How many guys would stand there like that with that look on his face knowing he just gave them the game. Like I said, interesting, that's all.
Maybe it is drummed up and bs but given what we know know you can't dismiss it as bad writing.
I think that the can banging was replaced by buzzers under the uniforms.
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Post by patford on Jan 18, 2020 14:57:20 GMT -5
Some sort of buzzer could be the solution to the problem. Allow the pitcher and catcher to communicate via some sort of simple device like a pager. One buzz for a FB, two for a curve, etc..
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Post by kevfc89 on Jan 18, 2020 15:17:03 GMT -5
many on the team have continued to basically say there's nothing to the 2018 allegations. I continue to hope they're right.
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Post by p23w on Jan 18, 2020 19:11:48 GMT -5
Maybe but didn't that look on Chapmans face have a little bit more going on? Like maybe he knew something? How many guys would stand there like that with that look on his face knowing he just gave them the game. Like I said, interesting, that's all. Maybe it is drummed up and bs but given what we know know you can't dismiss it as bad writing. I think that the can banging was replaced by buzzers under the uniforms. How about the look on Chapmans' face when he gave up the the game tying home run to the Indians in game 7 of the 2016 Fall Classic.... or my personal favorite when Devers took him deep as YS on a 103mph fast ball in 2017. Priceless.
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Post by soxin8 on Jan 23, 2020 18:53:04 GMT -5
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Post by orion09 on Jan 30, 2020 15:51:55 GMT -5
Buster Olney, on WEEI this afternoon, said he's heard that the league is asking "very specific questions" in regard to the Sox investigation, and that that implies that "there's something there" on the Sox. He thinks it's one specific piece of evidence that they're using to try to break the case open.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jan 30, 2020 16:26:37 GMT -5
Buster Olney, on WEEI this afternoon, said he's heard that the league is asking "very specific questions" in regard to the Sox investigation, and that that implies that "there's something there" on the Sox. He thinks it's one specific piece of evidence that they're using to try to break the case open. I don't know what he means by "one specific piece of evidence" but nothing it suggests seems good to me.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jan 30, 2020 16:37:35 GMT -5
Buster Olney, on WEEI this afternoon, said he's heard that the league is asking "very specific questions" in regard to the Sox investigation, and that that implies that "there's something there" on the Sox. He thinks it's one specific piece of evidence that they're using to try to break the case open. I don't know what he means by "one specific piece of evidence" but nothing it suggests seems good to me. I don't buy it. MLB doesn't want to find anything further. They'll either say nothing happened or something small happened, pin it all on Cora and give the Sox a fine.
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Post by kman22 on Feb 5, 2020 13:23:34 GMT -5
Even more so than before, I hope their picks are safe.
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Post by Addam603 on Feb 6, 2020 21:11:29 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Feb 6, 2020 21:22:03 GMT -5
Well if he punished the Sox players we would know for a fact the league had it out for us
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Post by kevfc89 on Feb 7, 2020 1:55:23 GMT -5
hmm...he probably wouldn't have said that if he wasn't planning other punishment for the team
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Post by baseballlifer34 on Feb 7, 2020 4:11:36 GMT -5
hmm...he probably wouldn't have said that if he wasn't planning other punishment for the team The Sox will come out looking like hypocrites if the commissioner finds something. Some of the players didn't think they did anything wrong. The owners came out and said they think they'll get off "scotch free. Reserve judgement after the ruling has been made." The Sox are already in a PR nightmare with this trade. Everyone will be laughing at them if they look bad here. We are looking at a timeline of a week from now is the latest we will get a answer to this investigation, if Manfred is serious about them wanting a resolution before spring training. Probably February 14th or sooner.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 7, 2020 7:36:29 GMT -5
Yeah they definitely didn't say they were "getting off scot free." Good try though. They just said reserve judgment until the report comes out. That doesn't mean "we're not getting punished." Remember, the context was that was a day or two after the Astros report came out.
My guess is that they face a much lighter penalty, maybe half of what the Astros got on the five and one first or two second round picks.
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Post by baseballlifer34 on Feb 7, 2020 7:46:57 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 7, 2020 7:52:03 GMT -5
Yeah they definitely didn't say they were "getting off scot free." Good try though. They just said reserve judgment until the report comes out. That doesn't mean "we're not getting punished." Remember, the context was that was a day or two after the Astros report came out. My guess is that they face a much lighter penalty, maybe half of what the Astros got on the five and one first or two second round picks. If they lose a 1st round pick they are done for. Even less reason not to just keep going for it.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 7, 2020 7:52:39 GMT -5
Lou Merloni said =/= Red Sox ownership said. At all.
So when he's critical of the club, is he speaking for ownership too?
Edit: On the second piece, the reports even said they couldn't have used the video room the way they're alleged to have done so in the regular season during the playoffs, so I'm not sure what the point of citing the Sam Kennedy quote is. Even assuming the worst, that's a true statement.
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Post by baseballlifer34 on Feb 7, 2020 7:57:48 GMT -5
Merloni was directly hearing a message from the Sox camp and put out what he was told. Reporting what he was told.
He wasn't making his own point there. Unless we have a reason to think Merloni is lying for some reason?
Edit- Maybe it didn't come from the ownership, but someone from that front office believes this and they'll still look bad regardless. We didn't doubt Merloni when he was talking about the Sox offering 10/300 to Mookie and he countered with 12/420.
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Post by incandenza on Feb 7, 2020 10:36:51 GMT -5
Yeah they definitely didn't say they were "getting off scot free." Good try though. They just said reserve judgment until the report comes out. That doesn't mean "we're not getting punished." Remember, the context was that was a day or two after the Astros report came out. My guess is that they face a much lighter penalty, maybe half of what the Astros got on the five and one first or two second round picks. If they lose a 1st round pick they are done for. Even less reason not to just keep going for it. What does this even mean? The organization can never recover from losing one draft pick? Would they have been "done for" if they had lost the first round picks they used on Trey Ball, Deven Marrero, or Blake Swihart?
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Post by wcsoxfan on Feb 7, 2020 10:52:41 GMT -5
Merloni was directly hearing a message from the Sox camp and put out what he was told. Reporting what he was told. He wasn't making his own point there. Unless we have a reason to think Merloni is lying for some reason? Edit- Maybe it didn't come from the ownership, but someone from that front office believes this and they'll still look bad regardless. We didn't doubt Merloni when he was talking about the Sox offering 10/300 to Mookie and he countered with 12/420. This is like saying 'that parent looks really bad because they said they didn't think their kid did it' after their child is convicted of a crime. Of course they didn't think they did it. And unless told, how would they know? Based on Manfred's comments, it seems MLB realized there's a flaw in how video rooms are being used. I imagine that if you have immediate access to video of the game from multiple angles, it would be hard to find a team without a player who uses that to pickup the catcher's signs.
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