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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 13, 2020 14:47:09 GMT -5
Nothing. He was a player when the Astros scandal happened, so he won't be punished.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jan 13, 2020 14:48:09 GMT -5
dammit, Cora's gonna get hit with two years or worse, and we're probably losing draft picks as well. Sox might just have to move on from Cora now...this sucks.
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Post by cdj on Jan 13, 2020 14:51:12 GMT -5
Gotta think that Cora being fired is on the table at this point. Welp I was wrong and you were right He’s about to get mollywhopped This is no bueno
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Post by jdb on Jan 13, 2020 14:57:02 GMT -5
Cora seems to be in line for at least the same but probably more. I wonder if just firing him and trying to get out in front of it would be the right move.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jan 13, 2020 14:58:19 GMT -5
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Post by cotuitfan on Jan 13, 2020 15:23:42 GMT -5
Crane fired Hinch and Luhnow
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Post by urgent on Jan 13, 2020 15:25:45 GMT -5
John Farrell still available? Not during lobster season.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Jan 13, 2020 15:26:50 GMT -5
Yeah I'm personally sick of this crap and yeah I'm disappointed in Cora for introducing it further into the organization when the Sox already got punished for the apple watch thing. What a stupid, stupid thing to do. I hope Cora gets suspended now. He deserves it. You know he brought this from the Astros organization and thought it would be a good idea. Remember when I said this? Yes, and this guy is wrong just like you were wrong. The report is referring to both Houston schemes (the trashcan thing and a replay room set-up similar to what the Red Sox did). The report does not insinuate that he started the cheating in Boston.
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Post by dirtywater43 on Jan 13, 2020 15:29:46 GMT -5
Remember when I said this? Yes, and this guy is wrong just like you were wrong. The report is referring to both Houston schemes (the trashcan thing and a replay room set-up similar to what the Red Sox did). The report does not insinuate that he started the cheating in Boston. I said Cora brought these cheating tactics with him. He did, not that he started or finished anything.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Jan 13, 2020 15:34:43 GMT -5
Yes, and this guy is wrong just like you were wrong. The report is referring to both Houston schemes (the trashcan thing and a replay room set-up similar to what the Red Sox did). The report does not insinuate that he started the cheating in Boston. I said Cora brought these cheating tactics with him. He did, not that he started or finished anything. But what do you even mean "he brought these cheating tactics with him," if they were already doing it? I don't mean to pick on you specifically, but there seems to be so much misinformation about this issue (maybe because the original article was behind a paywall), and it's frustrating that people are painting Cora as the common thread tying all the cheating together when the evidence is very clear that this was a widespread issues that goes way way beyond just Cora.
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Post by dirtywater43 on Jan 13, 2020 15:40:27 GMT -5
I said Cora brought these cheating tactics with him. He did, not that he started or finished anything. But what do you even mean "he brought these cheating tactics with him," if they were already doing it? I don't mean to pick on you specifically, but there seems to be so much misinformation about this issue (maybe because the original article was behind a paywall), and it's frustrating that people are painting Cora as the common thread tying all the cheating together when the evidence is very clear that this was a widespread issues that goes way way beyond just Cora. Cora is a guy who seems determined to cheat, whether this was a mainstreamed issue or not. Meaning, he was going to do this regardless of Boston's past of cheating. This is definitely a Cora issue. He's done this with now 2 different orgnazitions, I don't know how you can paint it any other way.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 13, 2020 15:45:41 GMT -5
Unreal. I'll take a ring any day of the week, so if Cora is fired and/or has a lifetime ban, he's always welcome around in my book. I'd rather not have rings that are "tainted", but I'd rather have one than not have one. It's just a sad circumstance.
Now, if he got busted and lost? Completely different story. So, there's a bit of a luck factor in there.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jan 13, 2020 15:48:34 GMT -5
Forget about everything with Cora. He's doomed. I'm way more worried about losing any draft picks at this point after Houston got hit as they did. Why even worry over cora after the report on them came out> Anything in his defense now is wasted type space.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jan 13, 2020 15:48:43 GMT -5
This sucks.
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Post by mobaz on Jan 13, 2020 15:50:01 GMT -5
John Farrell still available? AJ Hinch is now available.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 13, 2020 15:52:03 GMT -5
John Farrell still available? AJ Hinch is now available. Next year.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jan 13, 2020 15:52:21 GMT -5
John Farrell still available? I'm still a fan!
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Post by taftreign on Jan 13, 2020 15:53:32 GMT -5
Unreal. I'll take a ring any day of the week, so if Cora is fired and/or has a lifetime ban, he's always welcome around in my book. I'd rather not have rings that are "tainted", but I'd rather have one than not have one. It's just a sad circumstance. Now, if he got busted and lost? Completely different story. So, there's a bit of a luck factor in there. At least it is known this was not possible in the post season. MLB was monitoring replay rooms.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 13, 2020 15:55:17 GMT -5
With Hinch and Cora fired there's absolutely no way Cora returns. This sucks...
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 13, 2020 16:01:51 GMT -5
Wonder who the next manager of the Red Sox will be. I guess they could make Roenicke interim manager. Walpole Joe Morgan is still available.
I'm sure Bobby V is chomping at the bit. lol
The managerial search will be interesting.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jan 13, 2020 16:05:33 GMT -5
With Hinch and Cora fired there's absolutely no way Cora returns. This sucks... Cora will have the stain of this 'impeachment' for the rest of his life. He might make it back to baseball in some limited capacity as a coach after a few years but he is cooked. Houston will lose 1st and second round picks two consecutive years. That is mighty stiff if the same or worse results for the Sox...a team currently rated by some as having the worst system. It might be time to research cryogenics...thaw out in 5-6 years.
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Post by KB24 on Jan 13, 2020 16:17:19 GMT -5
I guess the luxury tax implications would be less important now if they decide to stay way over since losing the 10 spots in the draft looks pretty moot now.
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Post by nomar on Jan 13, 2020 16:20:45 GMT -5
Could see Bloom giving Sam Fuld a long look for manager. I’m sure Sox fans will throw Mike Lowell’s name around too.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Jan 13, 2020 16:25:51 GMT -5
dammit, Cora's gonna get hit with two years or worse, and we're probably losing draft picks as well. Sox might just have to move on from Cora now...this sucks. I expect the Red Sox won't take action until MLB hands out their ruling in order to void Cora's contract and save $$. Maybe Joey's available?
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 13, 2020 16:34:13 GMT -5
Yes, and this guy is wrong just like you were wrong. The report is referring to both Houston schemes (the trashcan thing and a replay room set-up similar to what the Red Sox did). The report does not insinuate that he started the cheating in Boston. I said Cora brought these cheating tactics with him. He did, not that he started or finished anything. He didn't, unless there's hidden cameras, spies, scouts and trashcan language in Boston that I haven't heard about. We should be separating what Cora did in Houston from what he did in Boston and what Boston actually did. Boston cannot be punished for what Cora did in Houston.
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