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Post by dmaineah on Jan 18, 2020 7:02:45 GMT -5
If the Red Sox have a good year it will be because Sale leads the Pitching Staff and is healthy. Reports say he is on track & healthy. I think he is hurt & doesn’t make it pass June. Hope I’m wrong.
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Post by trajanacc on Jan 18, 2020 9:02:47 GMT -5
Just curious, are you a qualified medical professional with access to recent information on Sale’s arm health? Have you examined him personally? Did you at least stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night? If none of these things, I am curious why your opinion should be considered anything more than a blind guess.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jan 18, 2020 9:14:02 GMT -5
Just curious, are you a qualified medical professional with access to recent information on Sale’s arm health? Have you examined him personally? Did you at least stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night? If none of these things, I am curious why your opinion should be considered anything more than a blind guess. You're going to have a hell of a time with your fantasy draft if that's your standard for evaluating pitcher health.
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Post by dmaineah on Jan 18, 2020 9:47:50 GMT -5
You're going to have a hell of a time with your fantasy draft if that's your standard for evaluating pitcher health. Let’s start one
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Post by patford on Jan 18, 2020 9:59:36 GMT -5
If Sale needed surgery I believe Andrews would have recommended it. My assumption is Sale is healthy and will start off the year strong and then fade in the second half. That is his pattern and he's never varied from it. My totally unprofessional opinion is he needs to put on 40 pounds.
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Post by incandenza on Jan 19, 2020 1:03:58 GMT -5
Here's a fun fact: Chris Sale has started 25+ games in all 8 professional seasons in which he's been a starter.
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Post by dmaineah on Jan 19, 2020 7:35:00 GMT -5
Just curious, are you a qualified medical professional with access to recent information on Sale’s arm health? Have you examined him personally? Did you at least stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night? If none of these things, I am curious why your opinion should be considered anything more than a blind guess. Sale’s latest visit to the physician comes as a follow-up to an August appointment in which Sale received a platelet-rich plasma injection.
I hope he starts 30 games, pitches over 200 innings, leads the team into the playoffs, wins 3 World Series starts, is named MVP of the Series & wins the Cy Young. But I think he’s hurt, hope I’m wrong.
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Post by jackiebradleyjrjr on Jan 19, 2020 11:55:52 GMT -5
You're going to have a hell of a time with your fantasy draft if that's your standard for evaluating pitcher health. Let’s start one With the first pick of the 2020 fantasy draft, dmaineah selects.... Steve Selsky, outfielder, manager of Arby’s
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Post by rambo77 on Jan 19, 2020 18:46:13 GMT -5
With the first pick of the 2020 fantasy draft, dmaineah selects.... Steve Selsky, outfielder, manager of Arby’s
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Post by rambo77 on Jan 19, 2020 18:46:40 GMT -5
If the Red Sox have a good year it will be because Sale leads the Pitching Staff and is healthy. Reports say he is on track & healthy. I think he is hurt & doesn’t make it pass June. Hope I’m wrong.
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Post by rambo77 on Jan 19, 2020 18:47:00 GMT -5
If the Red Sox have a good year it will be because Sale leads the Pitching Staff and is healthy. Reports say he is on track & healthy. I think he is hurt & doesn’t make it pass June. Hope I’m wrong.
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Post by rambo77 on Jan 19, 2020 18:47:14 GMT -5
If the Red Sox have a good year it will be because Sale leads the Pitching Staff and is healthy. Reports say he is on track & healthy. I think he is hurt & doesn’t make it pass June. Hope I’m wrong.
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Post by rambo77 on Jan 19, 2020 18:47:38 GMT -5
Sale and Devers for Arenado
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 19, 2020 20:21:32 GMT -5
Sale and Devers for Arenado Devers > Arenado
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 19, 2020 20:41:04 GMT -5
Sale and Devers for Arenado You want to take Arenado out of Colorado and trade away another 4 years of control over Devers and Sale, who does have a legit shot at bouncing back over the length of his contract and also create another hole in the rotation with no money left to fill it in. I'll pass on that deal. I'll keep Sale and hope that he's healthy or healthy at some point over the next several years and enjoy Devers as he's on his way up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 18:51:32 GMT -5
I always wanted to ask this question and respect the people on this site opinion. Who won the Yoan Moncada, Michael Kopech Luis Alexander Basabe and Victor Diaz trade for Chris Sale. Now that's its over Sales on a new contract for me I think Chicago won. I know people will say Sales contract was cheap per year, but we also spent $63 million posting fee. I think we won Craig Kimbrel trade now that is over.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 22, 2020 19:15:01 GMT -5
See my avatar for the answer.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jan 22, 2020 19:20:16 GMT -5
I always wanted to ask this question and respect the people on this site opinion. Who won the Yoan Moncada, Michael Kopech Luis Alexander Basabe and Victor Diaz trade for Chris Sale. Now that's its over Sales on a new contract for me I think Chicago won. I know people will say Sales contract was cheap per year, but we also spent $63 million posting fee. I think we won Craig Kimbrel trade now that is over. My personal thoughts, perhaps other ancient Sox fans also who endured 3 lost WS in game 7's (67,75,86) and all those years where they just weren't quite good enough.. I'll take that deal anyway. Sale was top 3 SP in the GAME when that deal was made with 3y of control left. Kopech and Moncada may have been consensus top 20 kids, but Sale was going to be THE go to guy in Boston.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Jan 22, 2020 19:54:58 GMT -5
I always wanted to ask this question and respect the people on this site opinion. Who won the Yoan Moncada, Michael Kopech Luis Alexander Basabe and Victor Diaz trade for Chris Sale. Now that's its over Sales on a new contract for me I think Chicago won. I know people will say Sales contract was cheap per year, but we also spent $63 million posting fee. I think we won Craig Kimbrel trade now that is over. Yay!!! Another 40 pages of responses coming on the kimbrel trade. Lol Since the Sox got 2 epic years and a championship out of the trade I would say at worst the trade was a push. But when it’s all said and done I think it will be a good old fashioned baseball trade that was good for both teams.
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 22, 2020 19:55:07 GMT -5
Both teams are pretty happy with it, I'd have to imagine.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 22, 2020 22:21:33 GMT -5
I always wanted to ask this question and respect the people on this site opinion. Who won the Yoan Moncada, Michael Kopech Luis Alexander Basabe and Victor Diaz trade for Chris Sale. Now that's its over Sales on a new contract for me I think Chicago won. I know people will say Sales contract was cheap per year, but we also spent $63 million posting fee. I think we won Craig Kimbrel trade now that is over. They both won. Chicago is getting what they were seeking which is at least one core guy if not two or even possibly three that will be mature at a time they have a shot at repeatedly winning their division for a good five year stretch. The Red Sox meanwhile had Chris Sale when their window was wide open and he helped them win the 2017 division and helped them dominate in 2018. They built that huge lead that year in part because nobody could score a run off of Sale in June or July that year. Obviously he was injured during the post-season but at least he did contribute something, a good start in Game 1 of the ALDS, a strong relief appearance in the clinching game of the ALDS and his dominant finish to the World Series. It's debatable that the Sox win the World Series in 2018 without Chris Sale. His performance was impactful, both seasons. Yoan Moncada wouldn't have done much to help the Sox win in 2017 or 2018 when the Sox were truly at their best and ready to win. If you go by WAR, the White Sox will "win" the trade, but given that the Red Sox won the World Series and Sale was a huge part of that and may be for more seasons in the future (who knows if he would have signed here without knowing what it was like to be in Boston first?), I'd say the Red Sox did very well in the trade, too. Flags do fly forever. The White Sox got what they wanted. The Red Sox got what they wanted. And I suspect if given a chance neither team would undo the trade. They both "won" the trade.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 23, 2020 7:49:51 GMT -5
What the last two posts said. Both teams can be happy with a trade.
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Post by mobaz on Jan 23, 2020 7:57:08 GMT -5
What the last two posts said. Both teams can be happy with a trade. But who WON?
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jan 23, 2020 8:11:18 GMT -5
edit.
Completely redundant to an earlier post that I missed.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jan 23, 2020 8:37:23 GMT -5
Why is it hard for people to accept both teams could consider themselves winners? Sox win a World Series and Chicago builds a stronger roster for the future, actually the way trades should work out, win win.
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