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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 22, 2020 9:29:54 GMT -5
I skipped around the sim game. Houck vs Mazza. Mazza looked about the same as in Boston. Lots of good and bad in Houck's game. He sat 94-95 throughout and his slider comes in a variety of shapes, I think it's his best pitch, his goto pitch, lots of deep counts though, far too many pitches.
Duran still looks like the most impressive player on the field.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 22, 2020 10:05:07 GMT -5
Good stuff here:
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 22, 2020 15:52:05 GMT -5
From BA's draft report: "Most scouts still see Dalbec as a hitter, but his pitching has intrigued"
I don't think anyone saw him as a better pitcher than hitter, but if the strikeout problems had persisted, it wouldn't have been out of the question.
Recall, also, that he actively disliked pitching, and he credited part of his great debut with not having to worry about doing it anymore.
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 23, 2020 8:23:35 GMT -5
Dalbec hit poorly in the CWS his junior year and pitched pretty well, which led to a lot of "he's a better pitcher, actually" from people who didn't see him much outside of that.
I don't think you move the guy with the best power in the system to the mound in the hopes he can someday fill the Heath Hembree role.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 23, 2020 23:06:21 GMT -5
As planned...
Chris Cotillo @chriscotillo · 5h Christian Arroyo outrighted to Pawtucket. He cleared waivers.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 26, 2020 11:11:04 GMT -5
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Post by patford on Aug 26, 2020 12:37:26 GMT -5
Nice to see a positive report on Groome. Chris and Ian had some comments on the last podcast which were concerning. I was kind of wondering if they had heard more than they were letting on. Quoting www.pawtuckettimes.com/sports/nine-innings-casas-hard-work-earned-him-promotion/article_435f2ed8-e73c-11ea-a1b2-2765506cc310.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share: 4). The Red Sox should be pleased with Jay Groome’s response since the lefthanded pitcher was asked to intensify his effort in his bullpens and side sessions. Understandably, perhaps there was hesitation on the 22-year-old’s part stemming from not wanting to risk a potential setback after missing significant development time due to Tommy John surgery. Then there’s the belief that some habits are hard to break. “You can kind of get in that rehab mode where you’re in the training room a lot. You’re not on the mound and it can get monotonous … Groundhog Day every time,” explained PawSox pitching coach Paul Abbott. “He came (to McCoy) and wasn’t going through the motions. He was just in that routine.” Getting Groome’s legs more involved has been another area of emphasis. In short order, Abbott has seen significant gains that have had a direct bearing on the actual results. Last Tuesday, Groome tossed two scoreless innings with two strikeouts while consistently touching 95 miles per hour. “He’s got this bounce in his step and I’ve told him how impressed I’ve been with how he’s gone about his business. He’s looking like a big leaguer who wants to be there,” said Abbott. “His changeup has gotten a lot better because he’s trusting it. [Along with the fastball and curveball], he’s shown signs of a really solid three-pitch mix. It’s pretty impressive.”
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Post by Addam603 on Aug 26, 2020 13:37:39 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 26, 2020 13:57:25 GMT -5
Nice to see a positive report on Groome. Chris and Ian had some comments on the last podcast which were concerning. I was kind of wondering if they had heard more than they were letting on. Quoting www.pawtuckettimes.com/sports/nine-innings-casas-hard-work-earned-him-promotion/article_435f2ed8-e73c-11ea-a1b2-2765506cc310.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share: 4). The Red Sox should be pleased with Jay Groome’s response since the lefthanded pitcher was asked to intensify his effort in his bullpens and side sessions. Understandably, perhaps there was hesitation on the 22-year-old’s part stemming from not wanting to risk a potential setback after missing significant development time due to Tommy John surgery. Then there’s the belief that some habits are hard to break. “You can kind of get in that rehab mode where you’re in the training room a lot. You’re not on the mound and it can get monotonous … Groundhog Day every time,” explained PawSox pitching coach Paul Abbott. “He came (to McCoy) and wasn’t going through the motions. He was just in that routine.” Getting Groome’s legs more involved has been another area of emphasis. In short order, Abbott has seen significant gains that have had a direct bearing on the actual results. Last Tuesday, Groome tossed two scoreless innings with two strikeouts while consistently touching 95 miles per hour. “He’s got this bounce in his step and I’ve told him how impressed I’ve been with how he’s gone about his business. He’s looking like a big leaguer who wants to be there,” said Abbott. “His changeup has gotten a lot better because he’s trusting it. [Along with the fastball and curveball], he’s shown signs of a really solid three-pitch mix. It’s pretty impressive.” Abbott sounded a lot more positive on Groome in his second round with the media than he did in his first. Consider that Abbott is working with a bunch of AAA or close-to-AAA guys there, and then this A-ball kid comes in with no clue what he's doing. I'm sure it took some time for him to grow on him.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 26, 2020 14:00:39 GMT -5
That doesn't sound right, Abbott is my favorite pitching coach but his experience is not AAA. The vast majority is A and lower.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 26, 2020 14:02:45 GMT -5
That doesn't sound right, Abbott is my favorite pitching coach but his experience is not AAA. The vast majority is A and lower. I didn't mean in his past. I meant at the ATS. If you've got a bunch of guys who know how to go about bullpens and side sessions and the like, then you have this one other guy who doesn't, it makes sense that might frustrate you a bit until he gets going.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 26, 2020 14:11:12 GMT -5
The first interview didn't sound negative to me. He basically talked about how difficult it is to get into a game mindset in a bullpen. That was before his first outing so it made sense.
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Post by patford on Aug 26, 2020 20:50:59 GMT -5
The first interview didn't sound negative to me. He basically talked about how difficult it is to get into a game mindset in a bullpen. That was before his first outing so it made sense. It wasn't so much the interview but the way Chris and Ian talked about it worried me that they had more than they were letting on.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 26, 2020 21:10:42 GMT -5
The first interview didn't sound negative to me. He basically talked about how difficult it is to get into a game mindset in a bullpen. That was before his first outing so it made sense. It wasn't so much the interview but the way Chris and Ian talked about it worried me that they had more than they were letting on. And I wasn't reacting to the podcast, I was reacting to Chris' comment. I didn't hear the podcast, I'm not into talk radio. No reflection on them intended, just not what I do.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 27, 2020 8:44:19 GMT -5
I interpreted Abbott's first interview as basically saying Groome didn't know how to throw a bullpen, and he wasn't going at it with the effort necessary.
You'd hope a guy in his fourth pro season would know how to throw a bullpen with the requisite effort. And Abbott made clear he wasn't talking about being tentative post-injury.
He wasn't saying he stinks, but he did sound a shade frustrated, to me at least. One man's take.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 27, 2020 8:54:33 GMT -5
LOL, right on cue but no subscription...
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 27, 2020 8:58:15 GMT -5
Yeah, Groome's interview yesterday was good. Thoughtful kid. Said he's feeling good post-rehab at this point.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 27, 2020 10:08:31 GMT -5
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Post by Costigan on Aug 27, 2020 12:32:05 GMT -5
The broadcasters at the PawSox sim games mentioned that Tapia has been hitting 99 a few times today, and struck out Casas on a 100 mph fastball. Given how the Rays have seemingly found obscure arms for their pens over the years I wonder if Tapia gets a shot in our pen this year.
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Post by rminns10 on Aug 27, 2020 12:39:28 GMT -5
Casas is huge
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Post by RedSoxStats on Aug 27, 2020 12:40:38 GMT -5
Good look at how Casas changes his 2-strike approach. [or more accurately how he changed his approach before 2-strikes]
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 27, 2020 13:13:15 GMT -5
David 1:12 Hey Keith, I know it's probably close to impossible for you to upgrade/downgrade your opinion on a player at an alternate site, especially after Britt Ghiroli's excellent piece on how scouts aren't allowed at those sites, but is there reason to be encouraged about Jarren Duran? Alex Speier wrote about his swing change and he seems to have unlocked power in his swing. Or is that something you would need to see a player show at a hopeful [insert state name] Fall League?
Keith Law 1:12 He has truly changed his swing, and I think it will lead to more power, but I wouldn't treat what I have heard about it the same way I would treat information from live games. 1:13 He's a better prospect now than he was six months ago. That doesn't equate to the same kind of jump in status or ranking we might get in a normal year, where he'd get to prove it against actual pitching.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 27, 2020 14:02:43 GMT -5
Good look at how Casas changes his 2-strike approach. [or more accurately how he changed his approach before 2-strikes] Someone's gotta tell the equipment guy to give him the next size up in pants. They are reaaaaaally working in that second pic lol
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 27, 2020 14:09:04 GMT -5
Good look at how Casas changes his 2-strike approach. [or more accurately how he changed his approach before 2-strikes] Less obvious to some might be how he chokes up on the bat with 2 strikes. He is wearing a black pad on his right hand, which is the thing you see in both pictures. In the 2 strike photo, you can see an inch or two of the bat poking out. It's funny, because it's a completely different stance and setup. In the first month last year, when he wasn't hitting well, he was doing the crouch all the time and it just wasn't working. Then he found a happy medium in which he only did the crouch with two strikes and he took off.
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 27, 2020 17:35:14 GMT -5
Good look at how Casas changes his 2-strike approach. [or more accurately how he changed his approach before 2-strikes] Less obvious to some might be how he chokes up on the bat with 2 strikes. He is wearing a black pad on his right hand, which is the thing you see in both pictures. In the 2 strike photo, you can see an inch or two of the bat poking out. It's funny, because it's a completely different stance and setup. In the first month last year, when he wasn't hitting well, he was doing the crouch all the time and it just wasn't working. Then he found a happy medium in which he only did the crouch with two strikes and he took off. Which begs the question, did the 2- strike approach help with 2 strikes? Or is he just better off going with stance #1 full-time? I'm giuessing the Sox and he have discussed and they have some data and that's why he continues choking up with 2-strikes. I womnder, are there circumstances where he doesn't adjust his stance with 2 strikes?
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