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Red Sox Select Nazzan Zanetello, SS, Christian Brothers (MO)
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jul 10, 2023 7:36:39 GMT -5
The nationals couldn't have offered anything less than 1.49 million, so at the very least we could assume it's going to take more than that to sign him.
EDIT: That's only if they drafted him and failed to sign him, they would have that offer out at the minimum to receive compensaiton. Disregard what I said, still I think it's fair to assume it will take a number around 1.5 million or north to sign him.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 10, 2023 7:46:33 GMT -5
Let’s hope. That allows some freedom later in the draft. Don’t forget who the Nationals drafted with their first pick. They may need to go over slot there and at a minimum need to go full slot. Btw it would have been nice had Chaim not screwed up last year by being just over the tax to have all that extra money and higher picks in a deep class. I know it’s a dead horse but it deserves to be beaten until he builds a great team and farm system. I also had that same thought as I was staying up to see their 2nd round pick. Selfishly my main thought was I'm bored waiting gee it's too bad they didn't have picks 40 and 41 or whatever picks they could have had, I think it was around there anyway instead of having to wait from 14 to 50. Non-selfish thought, it's pretty rare to have two QO guys in one offseason at least for the Sox so as you pointed out at that extra bonus pool slot value and picking 80-90 spots higher on those two QO picks is going to equal a rather large difference in the caliber of guys available to be picked. Sounds like Teel probably can slide in to 7-9 range, Zanetello sounds to me like a guy who could slide in or around 15 and theoretically had they had picks 40 and 41 or whatever it would have been and had picked two guys comparable to Zanatello, boy talk about adding depth to that farm. Could have added two more top 20 guys, of course there is no way of knowing what their strategy may have been if they had those picks anyway. Could have made an underslot reach type pick but either way that thought stings right now.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 10, 2023 7:57:37 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Jul 10, 2023 8:24:09 GMT -5
quality work, not bad kid!
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 10, 2023 9:23:33 GMT -5
I think it will be around slot. Nationals could have been offering under slot and pivoted to BPA when they got turned down. Why would a HS guy even consider under slot on day 1 though? Just go to school at that point. Depends on who the HS player is no?
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Post by wkdbigsoxfan on Jul 10, 2023 9:32:08 GMT -5
I think I’d start Zanetello a little lower in the rankings, maybe like 16-17?
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Post by cdj on Jul 10, 2023 9:36:32 GMT -5
I think I’d start Zanetello a little lower in the rankings, maybe like 16-17? That seems to be what Ian/Chris thought on the podcast iirc
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 10, 2023 9:50:05 GMT -5
Impressive athlete - the kids moves like a professional dancer, his feet perfectly positioned as he makes throws. Others have said it: there's a number of positions he could man. That seems to be the MO with Teel also. It's the versatility thing, a page out of the Belichick playbook.
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Post by rico6 on Jul 10, 2023 9:57:50 GMT -5
Why would a HS guy even consider under slot on day 1 though? Just go to school at that point. Depends on who the HS player is no? I think it does depend on the HS player. If they really want to start pro ball or want that security or guarantee of say 2M right now, then you might consider an under slot deal depending upon what you're hearing from other teams (it sounds like it's a deep talent pool this year) vs going to school. Sounds like he felt the Red Sox set the floor for him and it was above the Nats offer. We'll have to wait and see if it is above, at, or below slot.
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Post by stevedillard on Jul 10, 2023 10:03:06 GMT -5
The crunch created by drafting young Shortstops and premium International signings
FCL 3B Johnfrank Salazar SS Marvin Alcantara SS Bryant Zayas SS Fraymi De Leon SS Freili Encarnacion
In low A ball next year, this group would include Ravello already at Salem, but likely to repeat, possibly Cutter Coffey also repeating, and DSL kids who would be candidates for advancement beyond Short season ball (Cespedes and Arias)
And that's assuming Romero gets to High A (a reasonable assumption)
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 10, 2023 10:06:34 GMT -5
FCL 3B Johnfrank Salazar SS Marvin Alcantara SS Bryant Zayas SS Fraymi De Leon SS Freili Encarnacion In low A ball next year, this group would include Ravello already at Salem, but likely to repeat, possibly Cutter Coffey also repeating, and DSL kids who would be candidates for advancement beyond Short season ball (Cespedes and Arias) Doubt Cutter repeats, but they’ll just mix Zanetello in center to accommodate for it. Shouldn’t be an issue.
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Post by mobaz on Jul 10, 2023 10:16:47 GMT -5
If he makes the majors, does he have the most Z's in his name ever? Is there any way to figure that out?
I'm a huge fan of the "young for his class" guys in every sports draft, especially with eye-popping athleticism. Can't speak much further than that, but exciting Day 1. And the Sox have shown some strong Day 2 chops even at/around slot the last few years, so hopefully this becomes more than a 2-man draft even with potential overslot for Teel and TripleZ.
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Post by chr31ter on Jul 10, 2023 11:36:24 GMT -5
I could see Zanetello fitting in well as someone who's athletic enough and has enough of an arm to handle playing RF at Fenway Park.
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Post by ramireja on Jul 10, 2023 12:17:18 GMT -5
Brief scouting writeup from PG on Zanetello based on his performance at the WWBA World Championship in Jupiter of October, 2022:
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 10, 2023 12:18:13 GMT -5
Brief scouting writeup from PG on Zanetello based on his performance at the WWBA World Championship in Jupiter of October, 2022: Definitely a plus that he’s had experience performing with a wood bat
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jul 10, 2023 12:19:49 GMT -5
I think it will be around slot. Nationals could have been offering under slot and pivoted to BPA when they got turned down. Why would a HS guy even consider under slot on day 1 though? Just go to school at that point. Cutter Coffey did last year. It might be underslot, but $1.7M is $1.7M.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 10, 2023 12:25:39 GMT -5
Brief scouting writeup from PG on Zanetello based on his performance at the WWBA World Championship in Jupiter of October, 2022: Going to tell my significant other that being "twitchy" and "answering a lot of questions defensively" is a good thing actually.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 10, 2023 12:26:22 GMT -5
The crunch created by drafting young Shortstops and premium International signings FCL 3B Johnfrank Salazar SS Marvin Alcantara SS Bryant Zayas SS Fraymi De Leon SS Freili Encarnacion In low A ball next year, this group would include Ravello already at Salem, but likely to repeat, possibly Cutter Coffey also repeating, and DSL kids who would be candidates for advancement beyond Short season ball (Cespedes and Arias) And that's assuming Romero gets to High A (a reasonable assumption) This isn't a logjam at all. Marvin and Freili are the guys there who matter. Freili is probably moving to 3B. Alcantara has been kind of disappointing. Johnfrank's situation is weird - it seemed like he stayed in FL to work on catching but he's not really catching (and reports are it's awful...). Before Freili got hurt he wasn't playing much. Zayas is splitting time with Angel Pierre at second. His best tool is probably his arm. I could see that going on a very specific direction... Fraymi wasn't even starting in the DSL - it looks to me that he got pushed up because they needed bodies. If you put Zanetello on the FCL team right now, he plays every day at SS or CF (currently manned by Kelvin Diaz mostly, with Natanael Yuten getting some time as well) and there's no issue at all, imo.
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Post by ramireja on Jul 10, 2023 12:29:36 GMT -5
Zanetello had arguably the best performance in a limited sample among players on the 2022 18U USA National team during the World Cup qualifying tourney (note: this isn't the same roster that later featured Aidan Miller, Bryce Eldridge, and Max Clark among others). Still though, Zanetello lead the team in hitting .429 and among his 9 hits he had 6 2Bs and 1 HR. He walked 5 times to 3Ks, went 5-for-5 in SBs (which also led team), and made no errors in the field.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 10, 2023 12:31:35 GMT -5
Why would a HS guy even consider under slot on day 1 though? Just go to school at that point. Cutter Coffey did last year. It might be underslot, but $1.7M is $1.7M. Coffey was $59k under slot, although it's more like $46,500 when you account for the tuition money. But fair point! Good pull. Very easily could've just been seeing if Washington would go over Boston's slot. And actually, your better argument was Romero, who was way under slot. Not my best here.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 10, 2023 12:35:11 GMT -5
I count at like 7 HS guys from day 1 last year who signed for under slot, although most were guys who were expected to go a little later who got drafted early for the savings (like Mikey Romero).
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jul 10, 2023 12:51:40 GMT -5
Zanetello had arguably the best performance in a limited sample among players on the 2022 18U USA National team during the World Cup qualifying tourney (note: this isn't the same roster that later featured Aidan Miller, Bryce Eldridge, and Max Clark among others). Still though, Zanetello lead the team in hitting .429 and among his 9 hits he had 6 2Bs and 1 HR. He walked 5 times to 3Ks, went 5-for-5 in SBs (which also led team), and made no errors in the field. This is great. I was thinking Houk in the 1st round but was very excited with Teel dropping to that spot and becoming the pick. The more I learn about Zanetello, he seems like a guy who brings as much promise as Houk would have, if not more.
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Post by bosoxnation on Jul 10, 2023 15:06:11 GMT -5
Just went on this kid’s instagram and watched his combine video. Kid is ripped.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jul 10, 2023 15:09:21 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 10, 2023 18:29:05 GMT -5
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