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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 27, 2023 14:26:57 GMT -5
I feel like Cora is playing this to win...maybe. Leaving Murphy in after we scored 2. (gave up a leadoff hit). Offense seems tired. Almost a feeling like there is a realization how much of a longshot it is to snag a wild card spot. I know we are short in the pen, which I am sure contributes.
Wondering if we are not that far from just playing out the string. No Duran for awhile hurting, uncertainty about Devers, whole thing feels a bit tired.
Murphy is showing a lot of guts, though.
that was a run we couldn't afford to give up.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Aug 27, 2023 14:29:04 GMT -5
Get him out! I don't get it. Murphy shouldn't face these eighties. What’s not to get? Whatever your logic says, Cora will do the opposite.
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 27, 2023 14:30:03 GMT -5
Cora is inept.
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 27, 2023 14:30:15 GMT -5
Not really, but letting Murphy stay in to face him was a crime. They're in no position to remove Murphy after only 5 outs given the state of the bullpen. Honestly Llovera would've been a better choice. Assuming Martin and Kenley are available too.
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Post by manfred on Aug 27, 2023 14:30:35 GMT -5
I’m not sure what the options are for Cora. The pen is pretty hollowed out. Do you play to keep the deficit to 2 even at risk of hurting yourself in the next series?
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Post by manfred on Aug 27, 2023 14:31:27 GMT -5
Abreu is a real ballerina out there.
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Post by atzar on Aug 27, 2023 14:31:47 GMT -5
Abreu has some adventures out there in CF.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 27, 2023 14:32:38 GMT -5
I’m not sure what the options are for Cora. The pen is pretty hollowed out. Do you play to keep the deficit to 2 even at risk of hurting yourself in the next series? yup. between a rock and a hard place.
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Post by radiohix on Aug 27, 2023 14:33:13 GMT -5
Abreu has some adventures out there in CF . The sun is a big factor.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 27, 2023 14:34:03 GMT -5
Get him out! I don't get it. Murphy shouldn't face these eighties. What’s not to get? Whatever your logic says, Cora will do the opposite. And bring in who, guys? Schreiber a third day in a row? Winckowski or Whitlock a second day in a row? And then who pitches the 8th and 9th if Jansen isn't available?
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Post by nomar on Aug 27, 2023 14:35:04 GMT -5
We could be 1 GB third to last game of the year and Cora’s priority would be rest.
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Post by manfred on Aug 27, 2023 14:36:55 GMT -5
What’s not to get? Whatever your logic says, Cora will do the opposite. And bring in who, guys? Schreiber a third day in a row? Winckowski or Whitlock a second day in a row? And then who pitches the 8th and 9th if Jansen isn't available?
It really makes me yearn for one starter who could get 3-5 CGs a season. Just a few extra rest days for the bullpen would be massive.
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 27, 2023 14:38:30 GMT -5
What’s not to get? Whatever your logic says, Cora will do the opposite. And bring in who, guys? Schreiber a third day in a row? Winckowski or Whitlock a second day in a row? And then who pitches the 8th and 9th if Jansen isn't available? Llovera, Pivetta?
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Post by kevfc89 on Aug 27, 2023 14:39:32 GMT -5
If all the scores stand we're gonna lose a game on all the wildcard teams
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 27, 2023 14:40:16 GMT -5
And bring in who, guys? Schreiber a third day in a row? Winckowski or Whitlock a second day in a row? And then who pitches the 8th and 9th if Jansen isn't available? Llovera, Pivetta? The argument today is basically Llovera versus Murphy, either the offense carries or we need to punt the game. Our bullpen is maxed out now so there’s really not much maneuvering to be done
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Post by radiohix on Aug 27, 2023 14:40:34 GMT -5
We could be 1 GB third to last game of the year and Cora’s priority would be rest. Yeah, the way he manages the bullpen compared to the O's and Blue Jays skippers is quite different. I'm not mentioning Cash because that guy is a butcher.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 27, 2023 14:41:06 GMT -5
Tough place to be in - Houck only went 4, so Murphy has to be the one let out to dry. Not really anything else. Have to save arms for what comes next. but - at some point, it will be saving arms for what? Every victory is so important.
It is what it is - it is where we are. The bats today have been pretty awful, considering TBD started.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 27, 2023 14:41:39 GMT -5
My god, the Dodgers have 3 times as many hits as the Red Sox with a lower xBA for the game.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 27, 2023 14:41:42 GMT -5
And bring in who, guys? Schreiber a third day in a row? Winckowski or Whitlock a second day in a row? And then who pitches the 8th and 9th if Jansen isn't available? Llovera, Pivetta? Pivetta was already gassed when they used him on Friday - and he predictably stunk!
And if you're pining for Llovera, it's hard to take that as anything other than "the manager should have brought in a guy who wouldn't have given up runs rather than the one who did" type criticism.
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Post by manfred on Aug 27, 2023 14:41:56 GMT -5
And bring in who, guys? Schreiber a third day in a row? Winckowski or Whitlock a second day in a row? And then who pitches the 8th and 9th if Jansen isn't available? Llovera, Pivetta? Did you see Pivetta Friday? Dude is tapped.
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Post by dl on Aug 27, 2023 14:42:08 GMT -5
After all, Murphy is just a AAAA pitcher. We haven't drafted pitchers in the first few rounds since Bloom took over, SS after SS and wasted so many 1st and 2nd rounders on position players. Other than Bello, just a lot of average pitching prospects in the league and AA/AAA.
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 27, 2023 14:44:45 GMT -5
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Post by wildsox on Aug 27, 2023 14:45:10 GMT -5
Why are we not walking Mookie
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 27, 2023 14:45:11 GMT -5
So much deja vu with Mookie at bats. Painful, and yet very pleasing to watch.
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Post by notstarboard on Aug 27, 2023 14:45:38 GMT -5
Can we please switch to Llovera
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