mobaz
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Post by mobaz on Jan 25, 2024 16:49:27 GMT -5
Raheem Morris in Atlanta. Hope they figure out a better offense and a QB. BB might be out of work next season. I forgot he was with Atlanta as a coordinator for 6 years after his Bucs stint.
ADD: If Twitter Insiders are your thing, I've seen NFL Network's Tom Pelissero breaking a lot lately. He had this one ahead of Schefter (by seconds, but still!). Seems as plugged in if not more than Rapp.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 25, 2024 16:50:41 GMT -5
Raheem Morris in Atlanta. Hope they figure out a better offense and a QB. BB might be out of work next season. I forgot he was with Atlanta as a coordinator for 6 years after his Bucs stint. I just read Adam Schefter saying Bill was no longer the favorite.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 25, 2024 17:48:31 GMT -5
So, this was a team Bill literally wanted to go to since he interviewed twice with them and they went elsewhere. I doubt the Seahawks are going to hire him leaving only the Commanders or a surprise firing as the only options left. I think the truth is that teams did not want Bill more than Bill picking his spot.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 25, 2024 18:02:33 GMT -5
My only guess is Bill wanted more power in ATL than they wanted to give him so they pivoted to Morris. Don't think Bill's coaching in 2024 and at his age this could be it for him.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 25, 2024 18:07:26 GMT -5
My only guess is Bill wanted more power in ATL than they wanted to give him so they pivoted to Morris. Don't think Bill's coaching in 2024 and at his age this could be it for him. That's where I've landed on this. I think Bill still carries that arrogance that he should have his fingers in everything and everyone said, "no". I think if he was willing to just coach he'd have a job. I do like this theory. If KC wins and Andy Reid retires, could Bill end up there?
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 25, 2024 18:24:03 GMT -5
My only guess is Bill wanted more power in ATL than they wanted to give him so they pivoted to Morris. Don't think Bill's coaching in 2024 and at his age this could be it for him. That's where I've landed on this. I think Bill still carries that arrogance that he should have his fingers in everything and everyone said, "no". I think if he was willing to just coach he'd have a job. I do like this theory. If KC wins and Andy Reid retires, could Bill end up there? I'm not sure I see KC being a fit with BB. Just wouldn't seem like they'd want to deal with the potential baggage he could bring when they're already winning titles. It's an interesting thought though.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 25, 2024 18:25:44 GMT -5
That's where I've landed on this. I think Bill still carries that arrogance that he should have his fingers in everything and everyone said, "no". I think if he was willing to just coach he'd have a job. I do like this theory. If KC wins and Andy Reid retires, could Bill end up there? I'm not sure I see KC being a fit with BB. Just wouldn't seem like they'd want to deal with the potential baggage he could bring when they're already winning titles. It's an interesting thought though. I guess it's the idea of going from HoF coach to HoF coach, but if they're winning then maybe they just promote from within and see if you can keep the philosophy going.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 25, 2024 18:29:41 GMT -5
I'm not sure I see KC being a fit with BB. Just wouldn't seem like they'd want to deal with the potential baggage he could bring when they're already winning titles. It's an interesting thought though. I guess it's the idea of going from HoF coach to HoF coach, but if they're winning then maybe they just promote from within and see if you can keep the philosophy going. Yea my thought is that they'd want to keep what's clearly working, if Reid does retire I think bienemy might be a fit to keep the continuity but there were reports the players in Washington didn't like him, not sure how he is thought of within the KC locker room.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 25, 2024 18:32:10 GMT -5
I guess it's the idea of going from HoF coach to HoF coach, but if they're winning then maybe they just promote from within and see if you can keep the philosophy going. Yea my thought is that they'd want to keep what's clearly working, if Reid does retire I think bienemy might be a fit to keep the continuity but there were reports the players in Washington didn't like him, not sure how he is thought of within the KC locker room. Yeah, so maybe not. It's really funny that his best fit is actually the Jets given that the timetable aligns with the QB.
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Post by ghostofrussgibson on Jan 25, 2024 18:56:27 GMT -5
I voted for Philly a couple of weeks ago or so. Philly had dumped the coordinators around their head coach. I very good friend of mine is a huge Eagle fan and has said for weeks that there's lot of noise about Bill going there. And that was before Philly's dismissal of their coordinators... and also before we started seeing stories about Bill being in play for a team that hasn't already fired its head coach. Doubtful Bill would want to go to a dumpster fire team. Philly already has a QB and has been team near the top for a few years. I won't be surprised if he lands with the Eagles, especially given what I'm hearing from my Philly friend. Then again, he could decide to chill for a year, make $$$, and check the landscape a year from now...
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Post by costpet on Jan 26, 2024 7:35:12 GMT -5
Interestingly, none of choices above were listed as “nobody “. Who knew?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 26, 2024 16:58:51 GMT -5
Felger and Mazz are claiming (obviously a huge grain of salt) that Bill is getting shut out because he's not an analytics guy.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 26, 2024 21:30:39 GMT -5
Pretty wild to think there was talk about getting a 1st rounder and that they ultimately parted ways not because it was complicated but rather no one even wanted to hire him for free. Never in a million years this was how I thought Bill was going to end his career.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Feb 1, 2024 16:24:44 GMT -5
And now there are zero job openings.
More shocked about Vrabel than Bill though.
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Post by teddyballgame9 on Feb 1, 2024 18:47:55 GMT -5
Makes me think now that Kraft didn’t do Bill a soild by not trading him for picks, but rather no one wanted him!
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Feb 6, 2024 17:10:41 GMT -5
Boomer dishing the Bill Intel:
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Feb 6, 2024 18:51:13 GMT -5
Boomer dishing the Bill Intel: Didn't he also say Johnson was a lock for Washington? I just don't think this makes much sense. Bill interviewed twice and all other reports suggest the people within the FO were anxious about a Bill hiring. The only possibility I can think of is if the job was offered with the contingency he'd have absolutely zero say in personnel or any staff currently within the organization. Even still, that doesn't align with what Bill said before his firing that he's willing to do whatever the team feels was best for the organization. He wants that record. I would not hire him at 73 after a year removed from the game. Bill has to understand there's a high probability he never coaches again or reaches that record. Unless the KC thing is real, which would blow my mind that they would rip out the system that has been so successful for them.
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Post by beasleyrockah on Feb 6, 2024 21:49:41 GMT -5
Didn't he also say Johnson was a lock for Washington? I just don't think this makes much sense. Bill interviewed twice and all other reports suggest the people within the FO were anxious about a Bill hiring. The only possibility I can think of is if the job was offered with the contingency he'd have absolutely zero say in personnel or any staff currently within the organization. Even still, that doesn't align with what Bill said before his firing that he's willing to do whatever the team feels was best for the organization. He wants that record. I would not hire him at 73 after a year removed from the game. Bill has to understand there's a high probability he never coaches again or reaches that record. Unless the KC thing is real, which would blow my mind that they would rip out the system that has been so successful for them. You didn't mention Rich McKay but his power within the organization is almost certainly a primary reason Bill would've passed on that job. Why would McKay or his people advocate for Bill at the expense of their own job security and power? Maybe Bill was open to surrendering some power but wanted the Falcons to reshape their FO with people he would respect and advocate for rather than reporting to McKay, who knows the specific details. Is it really unfair to look at the Falcons and McKay over the past two decades and say "I think you guys need to change more than the HC to make this work?" Bill has repeatedly talked about the importance of ownership sharing your vision and plan, it's hard to succeed if different interests pull in different directions. Bill likely pitched his plan for the next 3-5 years of Falcons football, but they only wanted him under their own plan. If Bill didn't believe in or respect their plan it wouldn't make sense to accept the assignment. Any coach would want the all time wins record, but it's better to wait for a solid opportunity that may never come than to desperately enter a toxic situation with a high probability of failure which would further taint his legacy.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Feb 6, 2024 23:05:48 GMT -5
Didn't he also say Johnson was a lock for Washington? I just don't think this makes much sense. Bill interviewed twice and all other reports suggest the people within the FO were anxious about a Bill hiring. The only possibility I can think of is if the job was offered with the contingency he'd have absolutely zero say in personnel or any staff currently within the organization. Even still, that doesn't align with what Bill said before his firing that he's willing to do whatever the team feels was best for the organization. He wants that record. I would not hire him at 73 after a year removed from the game. Bill has to understand there's a high probability he never coaches again or reaches that record. Unless the KC thing is real, which would blow my mind that they would rip out the system that has been so successful for them. You didn't mention Rich McKay but his power within the organization is almost certainly a primary reason Bill would've passed on that job. Why would McKay or his people advocate for Bill at the expense of their own job security and power? Maybe Bill was open to surrendering some power but wanted the Falcons to reshape their FO with people he would respect and advocate for rather than reporting to McKay, who knows the specific details. Is it really unfair to look at the Falcons and McKay over the past two decades and say "I think you guys need to change more than the HC to make this work?" Bill has repeatedly talked about the importance of ownership sharing your vision and plan, it's hard to succeed if different interests pull in different directions. Bill likely pitched his plan for the next 3-5 years of Falcons football, but they only wanted him under their own plan. If Bill didn't believe in or respect their plan it wouldn't make sense to accept the assignment. Any coach would want the all time wins record, but it's better to wait for a solid opportunity that may never come than to desperately enter a toxic situation with a high probability of failure which would further taint his legacy. He's going to be 73. There's very likely no more opportunities after this.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Feb 7, 2024 14:45:19 GMT -5
Or 73 is the new 55.
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Post by mobaz on Feb 7, 2024 15:48:04 GMT -5
In 7 more years he'll be old enough to run for President.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Feb 7, 2024 16:04:43 GMT -5
In 7 more years he'll be old enough to run for President. America will never elect a president that young.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 17, 2024 8:01:41 GMT -5
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Post by mobaz on Apr 17, 2024 9:14:48 GMT -5
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 17, 2024 18:14:19 GMT -5
My understanding is that Bill told Blank he didn't want total control and bring in his guys and when Blank checked his references Kraft told Blank he wouldn't believe him.
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