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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 1, 2024 9:50:29 GMT -5
Per Cotillo
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 1, 2024 9:52:58 GMT -5
Apparently a minor league deal per Chad Jennings.
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Post by bentossaurus on Mar 1, 2024 9:53:44 GMT -5
Here's Dalbec's competition.
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 1, 2024 9:56:41 GMT -5
Not sure if he's any better than Dalbec, but Dalbec has an option so in all likelihood they give the spot to Cron so they can keep both. Cron probably has an early opt out I would guess.
Cron's fielding numbers are decent at 1B so he might sub in for Casas at the end of games.
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Post by incandenza on Mar 1, 2024 10:01:14 GMT -5
Hmm, no positional versatility at all. Not sure I see the point really, but whatever, it's a minor league deal.
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Post by vokuhila on Mar 1, 2024 10:02:16 GMT -5
At this point I just feel bad for Bobby Bombs...just open the cage and set him free
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Post by puzzler on Mar 1, 2024 10:05:01 GMT -5
Not sure if he's any better than Dalbec, but Dalbec has an option so in all likelihood they give the spot to Cron so they can keep both. Cron probably has an early opt out I would guess.
Cron's fielding numbers are decent at 1B so he might sub in for Casas at the end of games.
He may be washed up with the bat at this point, but I'd probably think he has a better chance at re-discovering it than Dalbec at this point. The only drawback though is that he can only play first base. Dalbec is passable at 3B. But to be honest - between Hamilton, Yorke, Sogard, R Gonzalez, they've probably got any injury issues covered.
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Post by nomar on Mar 1, 2024 10:12:57 GMT -5
At this point I just feel bad for Bobby Bombs...just open the cage and set him free The cage has been open for over a year. Nobody wants him
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Post by cdj on Mar 1, 2024 10:14:27 GMT -5
Always down for RHH pop
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Post by Addam603 on Mar 1, 2024 10:15:06 GMT -5
This is fine as a minor league flier, but is Cron really an upgrade over Dalbec at this point in the given role? You’re looking for a backup 1B who can hit lefties. Over the last two years, (134 PAs for Dalbec, 266 PAs for Cron), Dalbec had a .755 and .859 OPS in 22/23 vs .695 and .747 OPS for Cron against lefties. Cron has a track record of success in this league, which Dalbec can’t really say, but given all the other factors, I’d stick with Dalbec.
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Post by vokuhila on Mar 1, 2024 10:19:54 GMT -5
At this point I just feel bad for Bobby Bombs...just open the cage and set him free The cage has been open for over a year. Nobody wants him They didn't want to give anything up for him, I'm sure he'll find a home, once the price is 0
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Post by jimmydugan on Mar 1, 2024 10:25:03 GMT -5
This is fine as a minor league flier, but is Cron really an upgrade over Dalbec at this point in the given role? You’re looking for a backup 1B who can hit lefties. Over the last two years, (134 PAs for Dalbec, 266 PAs for Cron), Dalbec had a .755 and .859 OPS in 22/23 vs .695 and .747 OPS for Cron against lefties. Cron has a track record of success in this league, which Dalbec can’t really say, but given all the other factors, I’d stick with Dalbec. Probably worth mentioning that by measures such as xwOBA and xSLG, Cron has hit fastballs well in recent years. So whatever rotations they are going against early in the year may play an impact on this competition
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Post by wamderingdude on Mar 1, 2024 10:25:18 GMT -5
Cron seems to be a decent defender at first which is nice. I know bobby can play over there but i remember him being a bad defender at first and while 1b isn’t the most important thing in the world, it would be nice to have someone competent playing over there when casas isn’t.
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Post by cdj on Mar 1, 2024 10:26:09 GMT -5
Also I worked with him in the cape league, really goofy guy that teammates seemed to gravitate to. Probably a great add to the clubhouse
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Post by Guidas on Mar 1, 2024 10:27:05 GMT -5
This is fine as a minor league flier, but is Cron really an upgrade over Dalbec at this point in the given role? You’re looking for a backup 1B who can hit lefties. Over the last two years, (134 PAs for Dalbec, 266 PAs for Cron), Dalbec had a .755 and .859 OPS in 22/23 vs .695 and .747 OPS for Cron against lefties. Cron has a track record of success in this league, which Dalbec can’t really say, but given all the other factors, I’d stick with Dalbec. Probably worth mentioning that by measures such as xwOBA and xSLG, Cron has hit fastballs well in recent years. So whatever rotations they are going against early in the year may play an impact on this competition So, Jobu no can hit the curveball.
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Post by puzzler on Mar 1, 2024 10:27:44 GMT -5
This is fine as a minor league flier, but is Cron really an upgrade over Dalbec at this point in the given role? You’re looking for a backup 1B who can hit lefties. Over the last two years, (134 PAs for Dalbec, 266 PAs for Cron), Dalbec had a .755 and .859 OPS in 22/23 vs .695 and .747 OPS for Cron against lefties. Cron has a track record of success in this league, which Dalbec can’t really say, but given all the other factors, I’d stick with Dalbec. I don't think either one of them are going to get that many more opportunities against LHP unless Casas gets hurt. Cron basically has hit LH just a little better than RH his entire career and Dalbec is a complete blackhole against RH. Big Bob isn't pinch hitting for anyone except (maybe Abreu, Wong, McGuire). I'm not wasting a lefty against the bottom third of Boston's lineup if I'm another team.
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Post by asm18 on Mar 1, 2024 10:30:19 GMT -5
Dalbec’s strikeout rate vs Triple A lefties last year - 30.6%, per his SoxProspects stat page…. (See advanced stats and filters.) Cron, despite his injuries last year, had a 23% strikeout rate in general (which matches his career rate). I don’t think either of these guys are going to see all that much playing time if they make the roster to be honest - Casas is the full time 1B and they want Yoshida to get plenty of DH time. But at least with Cron he might be useful as a pinch hitter for like Wong or McGuire against elite bullpen arms that Bobby is just going to strikeout against every time?
That said, Cron played one game after August 15th last year. Do we even know (at age 34) if he’s even healthy? He would not be the first middling 1B/DH guy with power to become washed up in his mid-30’s.
It’s obviously a minor league deal, but does this close the book on a Duvall return?
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Post by scottysmalls on Mar 1, 2024 10:32:03 GMT -5
It’s a minor league deal so who cares but I don’t really see a ton of opportunity for someone like Cron unless there’s an injury. You’re going to start him over Casas or Yoshida ever? And he can’t play 3rd.
Any of Duvall, Solano, Longoria made more sense for this role to me but again, meh.
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Post by puzzler on Mar 1, 2024 10:48:14 GMT -5
It’s a minor league deal so who cares but I don’t really see a ton of opportunity for someone like Cron unless there’s an injury. You’re going to start him over Casas or Yoshida ever? And he can’t play 3rd. Any of Duvall, Solano, Longoria made more sense for this role to me but again, meh. Unless they trade an outfielder (or for some of these guys even if they do) what is the opportunity for Duvall, Solano or Longoria? Solano would mean you dump Reyes - except Solano shouldn't be playing SS at 36 years old. Longoria has never played first base and is 38. His role on the Red Sox would be limited to pinch hitting. And Duvall is not going to accept a reserve role. I don't see why any of those three would want to sign in Boston for the role that is maybe available to Cron.
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Post by scottysmalls on Mar 1, 2024 10:53:07 GMT -5
It’s a minor league deal so who cares but I don’t really see a ton of opportunity for someone like Cron unless there’s an injury. You’re going to start him over Casas or Yoshida ever? And he can’t play 3rd. Any of Duvall, Solano, Longoria made more sense for this role to me but again, meh. Unless they trade an outfielder (or for some of these guys even if they do) what is the opportunity for Duvall, Solano or Longoria? Solano would mean you dump Reyes - except Solano shouldn't be playing SS at 36 years old. Longoria has never played first base and is 38. His role on the Red Sox would be limited to pinch hitting. And Duvall is not going to accept a reserve role. I don't see why any of those three would want to sign in Boston for the role that is maybe available to Cron. At least those guys can get reps getting other players days off, 2B/3B/OF (depending on which player we're talking about). Cron literally can only play 1B or DH. I also just have more faith in Longoria learning 1B than you seemingly, but even putting him aside the other two seem like obviously better fits. I think the answer is that the team doesn't want to guarantee this roster spot (at least not yet) and Duvall and Solano are going to get MLB deals and possibly the opportunity to start which also isn't available in Boston.
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Post by pappyman99 on Mar 1, 2024 10:55:13 GMT -5
It’s a minor league signing for a guy with a career 109 wRC+
Not sure how anyone could complain or be overly excited about this. A no risk potential reward signing
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 1, 2024 10:58:02 GMT -5
It’s a minor league deal so who cares but I don’t really see a ton of opportunity for someone like Cron unless there’s an injury. You’re going to start him over Casas or Yoshida ever? And he can’t play 3rd. Any of Duvall, Solano, Longoria made more sense for this role to me but again, meh. ZiPS projects almost zero platoon split for Cron. Worse than Casas, Yoshida, Refsnyder, O'Neil vs lefties. When is he actually supposed to get into a game?
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Post by chaimtime on Mar 1, 2024 11:01:14 GMT -5
I feel like this shows why it’s silly to worry about future lineups being too lefty-heavy. Guys like Casas and Devers still hit lefties well, and righty bench bats are not hard to find. Cron isn’t the most inspiring righty, but he also costs nothing.
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Post by scottysmalls on Mar 1, 2024 11:01:56 GMT -5
It’s a minor league deal so who cares but I don’t really see a ton of opportunity for someone like Cron unless there’s an injury. You’re going to start him over Casas or Yoshida ever? And he can’t play 3rd. Any of Duvall, Solano, Longoria made more sense for this role to me but again, meh. ZiPS projects almost zero platoon split for Cron. Worse than Casas, Yoshida, Refsnyder, O'Neil vs lefties. When is he actually supposed to get into a game? Yeah this is what I'm saying and is a reason Longoria appealed to me for the spot if he could play first. Of all the group I mentioned he has the biggest career platoon splits (though if we include Dalbec, he does by a long shot).
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 1, 2024 11:22:12 GMT -5
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