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Post by greenmonster on Apr 12, 2024 16:21:20 GMT -5
A co-worker of mine is a huge Cardinal fan. He feels that Brandon Crawford would be very available for a mid-tier prospect. Cardinals are all in on Masyn Winn and Crawford is just a backup at this point. Cardinals also have Gorman, Donovan,and Edman who could fill in at SS if needed.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 12, 2024 17:09:14 GMT -5
A co-worker of mine is a huge Cardinal fan. He feels that Brandon Crawford would be very available for a mid-tier prospect. Cardinals are all in on Masyn Winn and Crawford is just a backup at this point. Cardinals also have Gorman, Donovan,and Edman who could fill in at SS if needed. I'd rather go after edman if theyre going for a cards SS. He'd signed for another year after this but that would work well for the Sox in my mind.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 12, 2024 18:06:00 GMT -5
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Post by asm18 on Apr 12, 2024 20:32:28 GMT -5
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 12, 2024 21:28:46 GMT -5
Ceddanne right now has to be the SS. He's the best we've got and at least with him at SS they can put together a somewhat major league line up..
They have depth in the outfield, they have no major league SS. Let Abreu or TON or Duran play CF with the other two in the corners.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 12, 2024 21:35:28 GMT -5
Is it too late to change my vote to the objectively insane option?
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 13, 2024 0:01:40 GMT -5
I hope they let Devers be the DH for a while. Option Enmannuel. He's not a solution to anything. Plant Hamilton at 2B. Never SS. Ryan Fitzgerald, lhb ... he was quality depth. Gone for $0. He is 1-13 in AAA with 6 strikeouts and he’s played 10 innings at SS since the beginning of last season, I can assure you he’s not any more of a solution than Hamilton is Who would your every day 3B would be? Dalbec?
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Post by cdj on Apr 13, 2024 0:10:42 GMT -5
He is 1-13 in AAA with 6 strikeouts and he’s played 10 innings at SS since the beginning of last season, I can assure you he’s not any more of a solution than Hamilton is Who would your every day 3B would be? Dalbec? For the Boston Red Sox or the Worcester Red Sox?
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 13, 2024 0:43:04 GMT -5
Christian Koss: Traded to San Francisco (March 2024)
They have a relief pitcher handling these matters.
Edit: Yu Chang is out til May Luis Urias is on the Mariners' roster
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Post by terriblehondo on Apr 13, 2024 6:12:40 GMT -5
I think maybe the Red Sox should start looking at Ian's scouting reports. Because all I have seen on the field or heard on the podcast matches his evaluation on these middle infielders. So the question is does the Red Sox internal evaluation matches Ian's. Because if it doesn't they need to change the people or the process that they are using to evaluate them. I know I personally hate Ian's reports as typically he pours cold water on my dreams. But ultimately when I actually see the player playing I realize the scouting reports are pretty darn accurate.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 13, 2024 6:38:54 GMT -5
Surely Adalberto Mondesi is healthy by now, right?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 6:48:30 GMT -5
Surely Adalberto Mondesi is healthy by now, right? And if he was, how many minutes until he'd get injured again, lol?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 13, 2024 6:56:35 GMT -5
While it's not ideal, at this point I go with move Rafaela to SS and go with an O'Neill/Duran/Abreu outfield against righties.
Against lefties use Reyes at SS with Rafaela back in CF and Abreu on the bench. If Reyes cant even handle that then I'm not sure why he's on the roster.
Eventually Refsnyder returns as Abreu's platoon partner and Rafaela stays full time at SS. If Abreu struggles they could get a glove for SS and move Rafaela back to CF but at least you find out about Abreu.
As for 3b, if Raffy is out short term, its Dalbec. If long term, maybe Meidroth gets a real look.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 13, 2024 8:08:15 GMT -5
Christian Koss: Traded to San Francisco (March 2024) They have a relief pitcher handling these matters. Edit: Yu Chang is out til May Luis Urias is on the Mariners' roster Maybe I’m missing your point but Urías is hitting .143 and isn’t a shortstop, so why are you invoking guys who would never have been considered options like him and Fitzgerald (who they already have another version of in Sogard)?
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Apr 13, 2024 9:45:19 GMT -5
Meanwhile...... Free Sogard! He does nothing great, but he does all the little things well, and it's the little things that are killing this team.
Let Sogard bounce around, 3b,SS,2b
I'll take Sogard over Hamilton and Dalbec
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Post by Smittyw on Apr 13, 2024 10:27:19 GMT -5
Give Hamilton/Gonzalez a few weeks' trial period Not quite 72 hours later, I'm ready to declare this the worst idea ever voiced by anyone on this site.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 16, 2024 14:49:50 GMT -5
Christian Koss: Traded to San Francisco (March 2024) They have a relief pitcher handling these matters. Edit: Yu Chang is out til May Luis Urias is on the Mariners' roster Maybe I’m missing your point but Urías is hitting .143 and isn’t a shortstop, so why are you invoking guys who would never have been considered options like him and Fitzgerald (who they already have another version of in Sogard)? Jeter Downs Niko Goodrum
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 16, 2024 14:56:33 GMT -5
Maybe I’m missing your point but Urías is hitting .143 and isn’t a shortstop, so why are you invoking guys who would never have been considered options like him and Fitzgerald (who they already have another version of in Sogard)? Jeter Downs Niko Goodrum So you’re just listening bad players, now? I’m not quite sure what your point is.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 16, 2024 23:31:56 GMT -5
Bad players who seem to currently better than what the Sox are going with in the middle infield
Eddy Alvarez might end up being their best lhb infield bench option. A .500 OPS going forward isn't workable
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Post by stunzisox on Apr 20, 2024 1:13:34 GMT -5
I think we’re starting to see our answer. With ref back and many mouths to feed in the OF (see: Duran, O’Neill, Abreu) it looks like Cedanne is going to get a lot of run at SS.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 20, 2024 4:57:03 GMT -5
There are three questions you have to answer (in the form of projections) in order to make the SS decision.
1) If you put Abreu in right, move O'Neill from right to left, and Duran from left to center replacing Rafalea, how much defense do you lose?
2) What is the defensive impact of replacing Hamilton with Rafaela at SS?
3) If you replace Hamilton with Abreu in the lineup, how much offense do you gain?
Until two games ago the last of these was a ball of confusion. Abreu had had just two projected legit hits (hard hit with xBA > .500), and they were on on 3/31 (single off of Cody Bolton, 109.6, .717) and 4/3 (single off of Stripling, 102.9, .763). Statcast had his back-to-back two-hit games (4/11, 4/13) as luck, and sure enough, he went 0 for his next 15.
He had gone 28 AB without a projected legit hard hit when he doubled off of Carrasco on Thursday (100.4, .934).
And yesterday he added a homer (109.1, .95) and another double (103.6, .51) -- his first two barrels of the season.
Total bases on legit hard hits:
2 in first 36 AB. 8 in subsequent 7.
And now it seems that the offensive upgrade is so large that you don't even need to look at the other two questions. Cora seems to agrree.
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 20, 2024 8:59:05 GMT -5
Christian Koss: Traded to San Francisco (March 2024) They have a relief pitcher handling these matters. Edit: Yu Chang is out til May Luis Urias is on the Mariners' roster Yu Chang was such a breath of fresh air last year. I agree with Eric that it's hard to justify so long as we have a full cadre of healthy and productive OFs, but if injuries crop up, I would be thrilled to give Yu a lot of playing time at SS. He'd be an ideal backup too, as he's a plus defender at all four infield positions. He'll be out injured for a bit longer, but maybe Tampa would part with him for AAA HR King Bobby Dalbec and a bag of Big League Chew?
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 20, 2024 9:34:52 GMT -5
Christian Koss: Traded to San Francisco (March 2024) They have a relief pitcher handling these matters. Edit: Yu Chang is out til May Luis Urias is on the Mariners' roster Yu Chang was such a breath of fresh air last year. I agree with Eric that it's hard to justify so long as we have a full cadre of healthy and productive OFs, but if injuries crop up, I would be thrilled to give Yu a lot of playing time at SS. He'd be an ideal backup too, as he's a plus defender at all four infield positions. He'll be out injured for a bit longer, but maybe Tampa would part with him for AAA HR King Bobby Dalbec and a bag of Big League Chew? Would love to have Chang in Reyes’ roster spot.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Apr 25, 2024 9:38:19 GMT -5
Since Rafaela is now the SS (probably for the rest of the season), when Grissom is ready, do the Red Sox sent down Hamilton? Dalbec plays 1B and 3B, and he is right handed. Hamilton really has little value with Rafaela taking ALL on the time at SS.
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Post by strike23 on Apr 25, 2024 9:50:34 GMT -5
Since Rafaela is now the SS (probably for the rest of the season), when Grissom is ready, do the Red Sox sent down Hamilton? Dalbec plays 1B and 3B, and he is right handed. Hamilton really has little value with Rafaela taking ALL on the time at SS. you'd still want a backup SS and Hamilton can run as well so I'd assume Valdez goes down to keep regular AB and hopefully re-find his swing. Would assume Hamilton then goes down when Romy is back
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