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Post by hairps on Jun 8, 2013 20:04:21 GMT -5
Goetze is commited to unc asheville he has a full ride to them. He had tommy john surgery last season but prior to that he has a major recruit to every high major college. He is a legit 6'6 and his fastball was 92-94 but was 90-92 this season comming back from it I can't find information on him going to asheville anywhere. All I've found online is that he's going to Louisburg College, a JuCo. Do you have a link? Chris, you're spelling his name wrong. Just Google "Goatse" instead, and you should find exactly what you want.
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Post by sammo420 on Jun 8, 2013 20:12:16 GMT -5
I wonder if they'd make a run at Boldt that would take them over the pool but not enough to lose a pick. In other words, I wonder how much of tax he's worth? As long as you don't lose a pick and it doesn't affect your pool $$$ for next (or does it - I keep forgetting the rules) year why not chalk it up to "big revenue team leverage" if the guy is worth it? They didn't throw the money at Alex Meyer coming out of HS when it was money only so I don't see them doing it now. One interesting thing to consider though is would he be considered better talent than what our 1st round pick that we'd lose would conceivably net us? If so it could be worth the loss of a draft pick. Again it ain't happening and I have a deep rooted fear here of us not signing him and somebody bringing his name up every now and then talking about we should've thrown the money at him and taken the penalty...a la Alex Meyer again. That drove so many of us mad.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 8, 2013 20:29:20 GMT -5
I don't think Boldt signs, but I do believe both Sheffield and Speier sign.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 8, 2013 20:49:02 GMT -5
Alex Speier has David Finley and Amiel Sawdaye on tomorrow @830 am to discuss Trey Ball, Henry Owens and Jon Lester, as well as the Day 2 picks for the Red Sox. Must listen radio.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jun 8, 2013 20:52:21 GMT -5
FWIW, Gammons just tweeted that RedSox BB ops confirmed that Sheffield is not related to Gary Sheffield.
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Post by zdog2418 on Jun 8, 2013 21:00:14 GMT -5
Goetze is commited to unc asheville he has a full ride to them. He had tommy john surgery last season but prior to that he has a major recruit to every high major college. He is a legit 6'6 and his fastball was 92-94 but was 90-92 this season comming back from it I can't find information on him going to asheville anywhere. All I've found online is that he's going to Louisburg College, a JuCo. Do you have a link? I don't have a link I just read what you did I guess he switched his college commitments before the season started he had commited to Unc-A. Were from the same town and everyone said he was going there at the beginning of the year
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 8, 2013 21:03:22 GMT -5
FWIW, Gammons just tweeted that RedSox BB ops confirmed that Sheffield is not related to Gary Sheffield. Really? Gary Sheffield Jr @garysheffield5 jordan_sheff congrats cuz #boston
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 8, 2013 21:04:40 GMT -5
I can't find information on him going to asheville anywhere. All I've found online is that he's going to Louisburg College, a JuCo. Do you have a link? Chris, you're spelling his name wrong. Just Google "Goatse" instead, and you should find exactly what you want. Not to be unprofessional or anything, but I'll admit that was the first thing I thought of when I saw the pick.
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Post by azblue on Jun 8, 2013 21:45:22 GMT -5
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Post by sjrdad on Jun 8, 2013 21:50:53 GMT -5
The Red Sox should use last year's 11th round selection Jamal Martin as a cautionary tale.. they went up to the deadline with him offereing him 100k and maybe a little more. He turned it down to go to FSU. Long story short. He never made it to FSU, now he is at some JC/CC and had a disasterous year at the plate. He is draft eligible yet again and we have yet to hear his name. Some of these kids will never get a shot at this kind of money again.. even if it's small relative to the top of the draft. Just the odds of it. This happens all the time. These kids with commitments often find no room at the inn, or a partial scholarship waiting for them. God forbid they have an injury before school starts, or an administrator declares them ineligible for some reason, they have no place to go. Don't want to look like a vulture, but one of this tough sign kids could find themselves in a situation where $100,000 and a start to their intended career sounds better than a partial scholarship and no guarantee of playing time. Or worse, go to the crosstown Juco and we'll see you next year when we have space, maybe.
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Post by danr on Jun 8, 2013 21:54:39 GMT -5
I wonder if they'd make a run at Boldt that would take them over the pool but not enough to lose a pick. In other words, I wonder how much of tax he's worth? As long as you don't lose a pick and it doesn't affect your pool $$$ for next (or does it - I keep forgetting the rules) year why not chalk it up to "big revenue team leverage" if the guy is worth it? They didn't throw the money at Alex Meyer coming out of HS when it was money only so I don't see them doing it now. One interesting thing to consider though is would he be considered better talent than what our 1st round pick that we'd lose would conceivably net us? If so it could be worth the loss of a draft pick. Again it ain't happening and I have a deep rooted fear here of us not signing him and somebody bringing his name up every now and then talking about we should've thrown the money at him and taken the penalty...a la Alex Meyer again. That drove so many of us mad. Actually, they did throw money at Alex Meyer, about $3 million. They also had Henry's private jet sent to pick him up to take him to Boston for his physical. His parents insisted he go to college.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 8, 2013 22:23:49 GMT -5
FWIW, Gammons just tweeted that RedSox BB ops confirmed that Sheffield is not related to Gary Sheffield. Really? Gary Sheffield Jr @garysheffield5 jordan_sheff congrats cuz #boston Also, just to clarify, it was Ian Browne tweeting at Gammons, which actually makes it more believable. That said, it's been all over the internet for a while that Sheffield is Gary's nephew. There are links from 2012 that say it.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 8, 2013 22:33:08 GMT -5
Mr.Trader1??? @kjtrader14 I just wanna thank everybody for supporting me this year and I made a big decision
Is he signing?
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 8, 2013 22:45:55 GMT -5
Really, really hope they make a run at Sheffield. He's the one I think they have chance to sign of the highly rated tough signs. We'll see.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jun 8, 2013 22:48:37 GMT -5
I like Sheffield too. Also I am interested in Nick Longhi's hit tool.
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Post by kman22 on Jun 8, 2013 23:41:20 GMT -5
So what is the signing deadline?
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 8, 2013 23:45:55 GMT -5
The only 3 that I believe 100% won't sign are Boldt, Burkamper and Morrison. The rest are up for debate.
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Post by bigpupp on Jun 8, 2013 23:46:54 GMT -5
So what is the signing deadline? 5:00pm on July 12 according to this.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 8, 2013 23:51:46 GMT -5
The only 3 that I believe 100% won't sign are Boldt, Burkamper and Morrison. The rest are up for debate. Sounds about right, but Sheffield's gotta be close to that, if not there. Just had TJ in March and he's going to Vandy. If he goes there and pitches well he could put himself in the first round. Will be tough for him to get that kind of money from the Sox if he's not even going to start pitching again until next March.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 8, 2013 23:55:58 GMT -5
The only 3 that I believe 100% won't sign are Boldt, Burkamper and Morrison. The rest are up for debate. Sounds about right, but Sheffield's gotta be close to that, if not there. Just had TJ in March and he's going to Vandy. If he goes there and pitches well he could put himself in the first round. Will be tough for him to get that kind of money from the Sox if he's not even going to start pitching again until next March. I agree with this. I'm probably reading too much into the fact that he was the first signability guy we drafted in Day 3. I think we have an understanding of what it would take which is why I believe we drafted him where we did. I also liked his reaction and general enthusiasm about being drafted by Boston, which led me to believe that he is indeed signable. With him, it's not a sure thing that he won't sign like it is with a guy like Boldt, so he could sign or not and I wouldn't be surprised either way.
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Post by kman22 on Jun 8, 2013 23:59:41 GMT -5
Sounds about right, but Sheffield's gotta be close to that, if not there. Just had TJ in March and he's going to Vandy. If he goes there and pitches well he could put himself in the first round. Will be tough for him to get that kind of money from the Sox if he's not even going to start pitching again until next March. I agree with this. I'm probably reading too much into the fact that he was the first signability guy we drafted in Day 3. I think we have an understanding of what it would take which is why I believe we drafted him where we did. I also liked his reaction and general enthusiasm about being drafted by Boston, which led me to believe that he is indeed signable. With him, it's not a sure thing that he won't sign like it is with a guy like Boldt, so he could sign or not and I wouldn't be surprised either way. I can't remember who, but one of the "draft experts" said they believed he would sign. I think it was Mayo, but I can't remember,
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 9, 2013 0:01:42 GMT -5
Correct, it was Mayo.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 9, 2013 0:10:08 GMT -5
But did Mayo say it today, and after he got picked? Honest question.
It's one thing to say a guy will sign, but the implication there is that it's going to take a certain number. The Sox need to be able to pay him that number. It could certainly happen - just depends what his number is. If it came DOWN because he's hurt, then he's definitely signable. If he still wants the money he'd have gotten if he'd been healthy and drafted in the first round, it'll be tougher. Could go either way.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jun 9, 2013 0:12:50 GMT -5
But did Mayo say it today, and after he got picked? Honest question. It's one thing to say a guy will sign, but the implication there is that it's going to take a certain number. The Sox need to be able to pay him that number. It could certainly happen - just depends what his number is. If it came DOWN because he's hurt, then he's definitely signable. If he still wants the money he'd have gotten if he'd been healthy and drafted in the first round, it'll be tougher. Could go either way. Yes, he said it way after he got picked; During one of the draft breaks when they were talking about which were, in his opinion, some of the most interesting picks made so far in Day 3.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jun 9, 2013 0:14:24 GMT -5
It is almost a no brainer for Sheffield to sign. He is realistically 2 years out if he doesn't sign and he would be better off in a professional rehab program rather than having to pay for medical care himself and not get the same level of help. The Redsox are an insurance policy and an investment in his arm. He will sign.
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