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Post by vmoss on Sept 10, 2012 12:23:39 GMT -5
IIRC a good byproduct of a bad record is a bigger pool for international signings in 2013.
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Post by joshv02 on Sept 10, 2012 13:33:49 GMT -5
Correct; the total signing bonus pool for 2013-2013 is $2.9*32*(industry revenue rate of growth from 2011-2012). The amount is then distributed in descending order based on reversed standings. The total amount of the bonus pool may also be traded (but not a portion of that pool).
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Post by wskeleton76 on Oct 29, 2012 1:43:23 GMT -5
Ryu Hyunjin, the best pitcher of Korean league will be posted on the market. His signing won't included in bonus pool because he has 7 years' experience in the pro league.
Big and young lefty with ave fastball, very good changeup, and exceptional pitchability.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 29, 2012 7:35:51 GMT -5
Ryu Hyunjin, the best pitcher of Korean league will be posted on the market. His signing won't included in bonus pool because he has 7 years' experience in the pro league. Big and young lefty with ave fastball, very good changeup, and exceptional pitchability. Here is the link in the Korean Times:[a href=" www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/sports/2012/10/136_123417.html"] www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/sports/2012/10/136_123417.html[/a] His best pitch is his changeup. I've seen some differing reports on his fastball, some saying that he touches 95 but most putting him in the 90-93 range. He's gotten big strikeout numbers in Korea, setting the career record for fastest to 1000 K's, and holding the single-game strikeout record with 17. Ryu turns 26 in March and is pretty filled out physically. Perhaps too filled out - he's got a big thick build, that reminds me a bit of a smaller C.C. Sabathia in both mound presence and mechanics where he seems to use his size to use it to his advantage, with a very smooth, fluid delivery and an arm angle that looks like it would be very uncomfortable for left-handed hitters. He had TJ surgery back in high school and elbow problems in 2008. He also threw only 126 innings in '11 but I can't seem to find whether that was due to an injury or just funny usage patterns or if I'm actually just finding an incomplete stat line. His workload was pretty heavy in his late teens and early 20's, so that's a warning sign. I've compiled what I think is his full stat line, since KBO stats are a pain in the backside to find and I'm just that sort of humanitarian (apologies for the formatting): Year Age App GS W L ERA IP H R ER HR BB K BB/9IP K/9IP WHIP
2006 19 30 28 18 6 2.24 201.0 159 57 50 11 52 204 2.33 9.13 1.050
2007 20 30 30 17 7 2.94 211.0 195 74 69 15 68 178 2.90 7.59 1.246
2008 21 26 26 14 7 3.31 165.7 144 66 61 12 67 143 3.64 7.77 1.274
2009 22 28 27 13 12 3.57 189.3 180 80 75 19 67 188 3.18 8.94 1.305
2010 23 25 25 16 4 1.82 192.7 149 42 39 11 45 187 2.10 8.74 1.007
2011 24 24 18 11 7 3.36 126.0 101 54 47 12 38 128 2.71 9.14 1.103
2012 25 27 27 9 9 2.66 182.7 153 58 54 12 46 210 2.27 10.35 1.089 |
2012 had his career best K rate and the second lowest walk rate of his career, some very good numbers. I'm not an expert at how well these would translate to the majors, but I generally am a fan of anyone with a K/BB over 3.0 for such a sustained period. If he does come stateside, he ends his KBO career by striking out 12 in 10.0 innings in his final start, throwing 124 pitches. EDIT: According to Gleeman and others, Ryu has hired Boras as his agent. |
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Post by wskeleton76 on Nov 4, 2012 5:26:31 GMT -5
Keith Law ranked him as 37th in the FAs describing him as back end starter or bullpen arm. When starting he showed average fastball (88~91), plus changeup, and fringy curve. Law expected him to throw harder in bullpen and to be best suited for bullpen being able to get out both sides of the plate.
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Post by pedey15 on Nov 4, 2012 10:34:48 GMT -5
I am Korean and watched his pitching for a long time.
In 2011, he pitched only 126innings because of sore sholder muscle.
He has low BB rate but his control is not that good because in Korea, hitters can't hit against Ryu even he pitch right down the middle. Just think about Dice-K. He had low BB rate in Japan but after he came to US, MLB hitters could hit against Matsuzaka so he started to nibble.
Also, Korean baseball has huge strike zone.
Ryu throws four seam fastball(he cant throw cutter or two seamer) which grade is 45 in 20-80 scale.
50 curve and plus changeup and 40 slider according to one ML scout who visited Korea to scout him.
Since he's a flyball pitcher and I don't see him as a K-machine at Major League level. He will not fit in Fenway.
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Post by sarasoxer on Nov 4, 2012 10:41:36 GMT -5
pedey15....Valuable input! Thanks.
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Post by remember04 on Nov 4, 2012 10:45:10 GMT -5
I am Korean and watched his pitching for a long time. In 2011, he pitched only 126innings because of sore sholder muscle. He has low BB rate but his control is not that good because in Korea, hitters can't hit against Ryu even he pitch right down the middle. Just think about Dice-K. He had low BB rate in Japan but after he came to US, MLB hitters could hit against Matsuzaka so he started to nibble. Also, Korean baseball has huge strike zone. Ryu throws four seam fastball(he cant throw cutter or two seamer) which grade is 45 in 20-80 scale. 50 curve and plus changeup and 40 slider according to one ML scout who visited Korea to scout him. Since he's a flyball pitcher and I don't see him as a K-machine at Major League level. He will not fit in Fenway. Great first post. Thanks!!! |
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Post by patrmac04 on Nov 4, 2012 11:36:35 GMT -5
I am Korean and watched his pitching for a long time. In 2011, he pitched only 126innings because of sore sholder muscle. He has low BB rate but his control is not that good because in Korea, hitters can't hit against Ryu even he pitch right down the middle. Just think about Dice-K. He had low BB rate in Japan but after he came to US, MLB hitters could hit against Matsuzaka so he started to nibble. Also, Korean baseball has huge strike zone. Ryu throws four seam fastball(he cant throw cutter or two seamer) which grade is 45 in 20-80 scale. 50 curve and plus changeup and 40 slider according to one ML scout who visited Korea to scout him. Since he's a flyball pitcher and I don't see him as a K-machine at Major League level. He will not fit in Fenway. (Like) |
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Post by pedey15 on Nov 6, 2012 5:36:39 GMT -5
According to Korean media, Red Sox is the one who bought Ryu's Pitch FX data. Dodgers, Phillies, Rangers, Cubs and Indians bought that data too.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Nov 6, 2012 11:44:36 GMT -5
Wondering if anyone has heard about the health of one of last year's signings....Wendell Rijo??
Hope he will be ready to hit the ground running in 2013.
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Post by charliezink16 on Nov 6, 2012 14:42:48 GMT -5
wendell rijo @wendellrijo
@dplbaseball the next moth I'm start to run I'm inside for my notice @benbadler
Agreed Steve, loved the signing!
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Post by wskeleton76 on Nov 6, 2012 21:57:51 GMT -5
I read BA scouting report on wendell rijo and watched his videos. He really reminds me of Pedroia. Not a cheap comp at all.
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Post by grandsalami on Nov 8, 2012 16:25:02 GMT -5
Nick Cafardo @nickcafardo
Kyuji Fujikawa, who was Hanshin Tigers closer is drawing interest from Red Sox. He's 32 years old.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Nov 8, 2012 22:01:51 GMT -5
Kyuji lost zip on fastball of late.
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Post by sibbysisti on Nov 8, 2012 22:09:06 GMT -5
Kyuji lost zip on fastball of late. Have you seen him play? Or relying on reports? Appreciate any links you can share. |
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Post by wskeleton76 on Nov 8, 2012 23:55:27 GMT -5
I didn't see him pitch but I heard that from japanese friends. He used to be dominant with his mid 90's fastball but now he can't throw that hard. He is already 32 years old. Law's scouting report tells in the same way. "He is not as dominant as he used to be and pitched with solid average fastball and a good splitter."
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Post by pedey15 on Nov 9, 2012 1:33:19 GMT -5
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Post by sibbysisti on Nov 9, 2012 9:13:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, pedey. So, in four years he's lost 1 mph off his FB. Doesn't sound too bad to me. |
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Post by enix45 on Nov 9, 2012 9:37:57 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on Nov 9, 2012 19:24:29 GMT -5
RT: @mykbo: Ryu Hyun-jin's winning bid is $25,737,737.33
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Post by sibbysisti on Nov 9, 2012 19:44:42 GMT -5
RT: @mykbo: Ryu Hyun-jin's winning bid is $25,737,737.33 And the winner is........................... |
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Post by grandsalami on Nov 9, 2012 19:58:23 GMT -5
Jon Heyman @jonheymancbs
#cubs said to have bid aggressively on Ryu but they did not win the bid at $25.7M
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Post by remember04 on Nov 9, 2012 20:00:44 GMT -5
RT: @mykbo: Ryu Hyun-jin's winning bid is $25,737,737.33 Is that dollars or yen? |
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Post by pedey15 on Nov 9, 2012 20:15:32 GMT -5
Dollars because Korea dont use Yen.
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