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Post by Jonathan Singer on Jul 7, 2013 8:50:56 GMT -5
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Post by jonasi on Jul 7, 2013 8:54:31 GMT -5
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Post by threeifbaerga on Jul 7, 2013 12:52:08 GMT -5
Ouch, Rubby.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jul 7, 2013 12:56:19 GMT -5
If the Sox were looking for some help from Rubby ...
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Post by Guidas on Jul 7, 2013 13:39:21 GMT -5
OK, how much of a "roll" do the Sox need Middlebrooks to get on here? He's been on base every game but one, had more than 60 at bats, hit 6 HRs, walked almost as much as he's struck out and has looked a lot more selective at the plate. There's teaching a guy to refocus and ther's being pejorative.
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Post by ramireja on Jul 7, 2013 13:49:53 GMT -5
OK, how much of a "roll" do the Sox need Middlebrooks to get on here? He's been on base every game but one, had more than 60 at bats, hit 6 HRs, walked almost as much as he's struck out and has looked a lot more selective at the plate. There's teaching a guy to refocus and ther's being pejorative. Slow down......60 at bats in Triple-A is not being pejorative. The demotion wasn't meant to be a slap on the wrist, there are legitimate things the Red Sox want him to work on. Patience young grasshopper. |
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 7, 2013 13:56:14 GMT -5
If the Sox were looking for some help from Rubby ... ...Xactly! This guy is not near ready. If Webster is having some trouble, what do you think RDLR would be doing? Honestly, I don't think he comes as advertised ...i.e. with a 100 mph fastball. He is more like the pitchers we saw last night on the Angels...94-96. I believe that his FB is straight and he does not locate well.....and yes, he does have a good change-up. I would give Middlebrooks some more time but in a month or so good results continuing, he's back. If Napoli doesn't kick it back into gear, WMB could hit behind Papi who needs some protection. I am concerned as this season matures, Papi will get less and less opportunity. I also expect that any trades we do will be for another proven relief pitcher but not a closer. |
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 7, 2013 14:09:20 GMT -5
OK, how much of a "roll" do the Sox need Middlebrooks to get on here? He's been on base every game but one, had more than 60 at bats, hit 6 HRs, walked almost as much as he's struck out and has looked a lot more selective at the plate. There's teaching a guy to refocus and ther's being pejorative. I suspect he'll be back after the all-star break. |
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Post by godot on Jul 7, 2013 14:27:58 GMT -5
I am not a scout nor have I seen Will at AAA, so my opinion is worthless I suspect the Sox are going more by what kind of abats he is having and the nature of his swing. The box scores are encouraging, but it is AAA pitching he facing. If he is showing something, don't you think he will be packing his bags soon. Yeah, they really want patch work at third base and sadly Drew is developing a history. Iggy may be playing more shortstop this year than third.
On another note, has Henry Ramos become a player of interest. He has had a very good June and is doing well in July. This is the former soccer players third year in the system and he is only 21 and very athletic. Is he learning or just one of those streaks? The next month or so should tell.
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Post by Guidas on Jul 7, 2013 14:36:32 GMT -5
OK, how much of a "roll" do the Sox need Middlebrooks to get on here? He's been on base every game but one, had more than 60 at bats, hit 6 HRs, walked almost as much as he's struck out and has looked a lot more selective at the plate. There's teaching a guy to refocus and ther's being pejorative. I suspect he'll be back after the all-star break. And by then Drew would be back so same logjam at 3rd/SS for playing time. Love to see him up for these last 8 games so perhaps he can give them a sense of what the options are re: July 31 (or before). Barring an amazing run through July/Aug, I don't think Drew gets a qualifying offer so the "we need the equivalent of a first round/sandwich round draft choice in a trade for him" has been downgraded to, say, a good reliever - unless of course there's a cataclysmic SS injury to another team in the next 3 weeks, in which case it will be trade Drew before he has the cataclysmic injury. |
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Post by beasleyrockah on Jul 7, 2013 14:48:53 GMT -5
I suspect he'll be back after the all-star break. And by then Drew would be back so same logjam at 3rd/SS for playing time. Love to see him up for these last 8 games so perhaps he can give them a sense of what the options are re: July 31 (or before). Barring an amazing run through July/Aug, I don't think Drew gets a qualifying offer so the "we need the equivalent of a first round/sandwich round draft choice in a trade for him" has been downgraded to, say, a good reliever - unless of course there's a cataclysmic SS injury to another team in the next 3 weeks, in which case it will be trade Drew before he has the cataclysmic injury. But what is he going to prove in 8 games? Last year he proved he can have SSS success in the majors, but with his approach it always seemed unsustainable. He could have a good week or so and it wouldn't really change anything long term. He could mash or he could struggle and it isn't going to be very predictive of what he'll do the rest of the season and moving forward. I'm done with Snyder so I wouldn't mind a call up, but I wouldn't put much if any stock in whatever he does in that time period. I still want Aramis, the guy always goes off in the second half. |
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 7, 2013 15:05:59 GMT -5
Bogarts hit a homer?
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Post by widewordofsport on Jul 7, 2013 15:12:28 GMT -5
At this point when I see Garin Cecchini 2-4, 2B, I have to check to make sure it's not an old box score. I could see him stealing Red Sox MiLB PoY away from Xander at this point. Almost like Iglesias... you figure he can't keep it up, but he keeps it going a hell of a lot longer than is logical.
Also... what sort of players win MiLB POY in general? If Garin stays really hot and hits .325/.425/.475 (unlikely, but possible given the hot start) at AA, could that get him some traction?
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Post by widewordofsport on Jul 7, 2013 15:18:04 GMT -5
Wil Myers, mostly at AAA (PCL) last year: .314/.387/.600
Mike Trout, 91G all at AA (Texas League) in 2011: .326/.414/.544
Garin Cecchini: .362/.480/.555 at A+ and AA (~20% at AA). I get that it's A+ ball (but a pitcher's league for sure), and I don't know enough about other prospects to know who else is doing great, but it'd be nice to see him considered, he's had a great year.
FYI: Xander is .294/.393/.475 with 25+% of GP at AAA. Impressive for a 20 year old.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 7, 2013 15:21:13 GMT -5
At this point when I see Garin Cecchini 2-4, 2B, I have to check to make sure it's not an old box score. I could see him stealing Red Sox MiLB PoY away from Xander at this point. Almost like Iglesias... you figure he can't keep it up, but he keeps it going a hell of a lot longer than is logical. Also... what sort of players win MiLB POY in general? If Garin stays really hot and hits .350/.450/.500 (unlikely) at AA, could that get him some traction? Gotta think he'd be a candidate along with Sano, Buxton, and Springer maybe, just eyeballing the numbers. Maikel Franco maybe coming up behind them. Awful lot of baseball left to go though. If you were to give out a Player of the Half award, it'd probably be Buxton, who went from a toolsy, top-15 or -20 guy to consensus, not-close top prospect in baseball. |
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Post by widewordofsport on Jul 7, 2013 15:31:54 GMT -5
I wonder how A+ ball will affect Buxton's chance for it, depending what other candidates do at higher levels. He's certainly the hottest name, but Cecchini's AA transition has been spectacular. And my edit above was to make Cecchini's numbers reasonable. If he gets 145 more ABs (200 total) at AA, and hits .289 (42-145), that puts him at .325 for the year, about an equal split A+/AA, and close to .340 overall.
If I remember my math right, Iglesias can hit .220 the rest of the way and get about 350 ABs and still be a .300 hitter. Crazy.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 7, 2013 15:35:42 GMT -5
Buxton is .375/.390/.500 so far in A+, so he's adjusting well too, with spectacular CF defense. Like I said, lots of baseball left to play. I think we all realize Cecchini isn't going to keep up .412/.524/.588 the rest of the way.
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Post by bentossaurus on Jul 7, 2013 15:48:41 GMT -5
Smack me! Wowsers in me trousers, it's a homerun!
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Post by mainesox on Jul 7, 2013 15:54:41 GMT -5
Buxton is .375/.390/.500 so far in A+, so he's adjusting well too, with spectacular CF defense. Like I said, lots of baseball left to play. I think we all realize Cecchini isn't going to keep up .412/.524/.588 the rest of the way.Shun the nonbeliever! |
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Post by kingstephanos on Jul 7, 2013 16:28:29 GMT -5
Buxton is .375/.390/.500 so far in A+, so he's adjusting well too, with spectacular CF defense. Like I said, lots of baseball left to play. I think we all realize Cecchini isn't going to keep up .412/.524/.588 the rest of the way. Chris, would you be surprised to see Cecchini make an appearance in Pawtucket over the last week or 2 of the Milb season? |
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Post by soxfan06 on Jul 7, 2013 16:29:03 GMT -5
Whenever I see Cecchini's boxes, I cringe at the fact that he was left out of the futures games....seriously Brandon Nimmo?
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 7, 2013 16:33:50 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jul 7, 2013 16:39:09 GMT -5
Xcellent find!!!
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 7, 2013 16:51:10 GMT -5
Buxton is .375/.390/.500 so far in A+, so he's adjusting well too, with spectacular CF defense. Like I said, lots of baseball left to play. I think we all realize Cecchini isn't going to keep up .412/.524/.588 the rest of the way.Shun the nonbeliever! But would .350/.425/.525 be all that shocking at this point? Guys a beast. |
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Post by widewordofsport on Jul 7, 2013 16:56:50 GMT -5
At this point, hitting .289 with decent walks the rest of the way should get Cecchini .325/.400/.450 line. And .289 is a very realistic number for him going forward.
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