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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 14, 2024 8:59:27 GMT -5
What do you make of those stats, though? They seem to me to be just SSS noise. Does anyone really think David Hamilton is as good a SS defender as Little Raffy? I agree, but an awful lot of people have decided David Hamilton is completely unplayable based on that SSS.
I'm sure Rafaela is better than Hamilton at SS, but from what I've seen of him there Rafaela hasn't looked great. He's definitely not as good there as he is at CF by all accounts. My view is that the upgrade from Hamilton->Rafaela at SS is smaller, maybe by a lot, than the downgrade from Rafaela->Duran at CF.
And honestly, just aesthetically I really don't want to lose our one dynamic and exciting defensive player just so he can patch over a gap at SS.
But would you necessarily have to play Duran in CF? I don't want to see him there either. Can't O'Neill handle CF with Abreu in RF?
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 14, 2024 8:55:20 GMT -5
Mayer, Anthony and Teel are all off to decent SSS starts in Portland and should fare well in the rankings. R1-12 should land in the back half of the top 100.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 14, 2024 8:42:04 GMT -5
Rafaela at SS in 2023: -1 DRS, -1 OAA in 45 innings David Hamilton at SS in 2024: -1 DRS, -1 OAA in 45 innings What do you make of those stats, though? They seem to me to be just SSS noise. Does anyone really think David Hamilton is as good a SS defender as Little Raffy?
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 14, 2024 8:28:23 GMT -5
Didn’t get to watch today but looked like a good win. The Red Sox refusal to just play Rafaela at Short continues to confuse me. Not only does it solve the Short stop defense it also allows them to get Wilyer’s bat in the lineup everyday instead of pablo’s or hamilton’s. Right? I mean Cora keeps saying that Abreu needs everyday ABs (which looks like it’s paying off), so it’s even more logical to be putting Rafaela @ SS. My hope is that we will see this tomorrow. Agreed. An OF of Duran, O'Neill and Abreu with RobRef as a RH platoon guy is a passable ML OF. An INF with David Hamilton, Pablo Reyes and Enmanual Valdez filling the middle spots doesn't cut it.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 14, 2024 8:17:35 GMT -5
Poor Bobby D is 0-16. Can't last forever. Next game breakout? Get rid of this bum. His presence on the team is a symptom of an overall lack of talent that we have seen for several years now. It's Franchy Codero getting PAs; it's a cooked JBJ starting in RF; it's KKH at SS or Chrisitan Arroyo in RF. Bad drafts, bad spending decisions and bad luck put us there. Let's hope that the next wave kills and that the FO uses the salary space to bring in big-time talent in trades and FA.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 13, 2024 12:11:04 GMT -5
I think a lesson here is that the only real way to improve a bad defense is to replace the bad defensive players. This year's team has problems at the CIF spots, LF and now at SS. 2B is mediocre at best.
It's not like offense where decent guys put up career years and are great producers for that year. Get enough of those guys on a team for a year and you're going to score runs. But while bad defensive players can make improvements around the edges, they usually remain bad defensive players.
An exception would be someone like Boggs who put in the work to become a GG 3B. He was no chicken when it came to hard work, I'll tell you that.😎
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 8, 2024 18:35:09 GMT -5
If 8/50 includes this year, I don’t love it. They almost can’t send him down to AAA. I’ll reserve judgement til we see the actual deets though. Scotty Smalls has it right (as do others). They can send him down and should send him down if they think it's in the best interests of his long-term development. Heck, they paid Rusney Castillo $70M to play AAA for about six years. None of the Rusney money counted against the LTT, but the LT isn't a concern for the Red Sox this year because they're well below the line. Paying Little Raffy to get a couple hundred PAs in Worcester and come back as a better player would be the right decision if they think that's what it'll take.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 8, 2024 16:48:36 GMT -5
8/$50M but that seems to include this year as it reportedly keeps him here through 2031 That would be an AAV of $6.25M, which sounds about right. He'd be making an additional $5M to $5.5M above what he would have gotten in '24, '25 and '26. That will not strain the budget in any of those three years. After that, the economic rewards of the deal start to tip toward the club. If he pans out, he'll be a nice cheap 3 WAR player on some great Red Sox teams.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 8, 2024 7:08:54 GMT -5
I gave adequate warning about my math skills, lol. But seriously, I think I was actually off in the other direction. I have Story and Yoshida at $41M in AAV through 2027, or a combined total of eight years, counting 2024. That gets you to $328M in AAV that the Angels would have to assume. Trout signed a 12-year deal for $426.5 that runs for another eight years, counting 2024. That totals between $248M and $249M in total AAV. There are only 4 seasons between 2024 and 2027. You've already pooled their AAV so you don't need to double count the years. Lordie, you're right and thanks for correcting. Apologies to Bentonsaurus for second guessing his math. I still don't think the Angels make that trade and I'm not sure I'd want to the Red Sox to make it either. Given the delta in the amount of salary we'd be giving up and what we'd be taking on, I'd want a decent prospect thrown in. That's a problem because the Angels don't have much to give up when it comes to prospects.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 7, 2024 22:41:53 GMT -5
My math says 172M vs 248M, but I take your point. I gave adequate warning about my math skills, lol. But seriously, I think I was actually off in the other direction. I have Story and Yoshida at $41M in AAV through 2027, or a combined total of eight years, counting 2024. That gets you to $328M in AAV that the Angels would have to assume. Trout signed a 12-year deal for $426.5 that runs for another eight years, counting 2024. That totals between $248M and $249M in total AAV.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 7, 2024 22:05:16 GMT -5
My first thought after reading through his thread is Gawd, I'm glad the Red Sox are off to a good start because if they weren't people might be even more miserable, irrational and obtuse. Some points: 1. I don't think awalkinthepark's point was that Story will never play BB again. He opened himself up to getting knocked when he said Story's career is probably over, but incandenza (to his credit) conceded that he may have taken that comment too literally. I think what awalkinthepark means is that Story is a bad bet to be a productive player for a sustained period. That's not unreasonable. These injuries have a cumulative impact on the body, not to mention that he's a MIF on the other side of 30. When 2025 comes, it will have been four years since he put up 4 B-Ref WAR or more. awalkinthepark threw down the gauntlet by asking for a MIF who played fewer than 100 games three straight years since WW II and came back to be good again. I'm not going to stress Google by punching in thousands of names, at least not tonight, but I see his point writ large. It's got to be pretty rare and not just for MIFs. (On second thought, does the GHWEL count here? He missed three straight years due to WW II and did kinda Ok from 1946 on.😎) 2. Unless I'm missing it, I don't think anyone in this thread said the RS should have matched the wack-a-doodle contract the Pads gave to X. Straw argument, my friends. Even in the emotional days after Bogaerts signed with SD, nobody made that argument, as far as I recall. Some of us were frustrated that they had low-balled him with laughable offers when they could have had him on a reasonable deal. 3. Speaking of those low-ball offers, how do we know X was determined to test FA? They never made him an offer that he could have found the least bit enticing. I wish they had. He put up a decent last year and, depending on Story's injury, will probably put up more value than him this year. I read X's comments leading up to his departure as indicating he wanted to stay. I got the exact opposite feeling from MB, who kept countering generous offers with much sky-high demands. He came off to me as a guy looking to max out. After X signed with SD, he said he would have accepted a reasonable offer from the RS. 4. D-Dom had his Sale debacle and I'm afraid CB1 is going to be remembered for the $41M in AAV he handed to Story and Yoshida. My hope for both is that they become productive for a year and the RS quickly cash them in by pulling off Sale-like deals. Eat some money, get a youthful return. Fun question: taking sentimental value aside, in a hypothetical healthy Story+Yoshida for Trout, who says no? The Angels. If my math is correct (and it often isn't), they'd be taking on $287M in obligations and trading away $249M. They'd be trading the best player in their history for...well, for Story and Yoshida.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 7, 2024 21:36:45 GMT -5
My first thought after reading through this thread is Gawd, I'm glad the Red Sox are off to a good start because if they weren't people might be even more miserable, irrational and obtuse.
1. I don't think awalkinthepark's point was that Story will never play BB again. He opened himself up to getting knocked when he said Story's career is probably over, but incandenza (to his credit) conceded that he may have taken that comment too literally.
I think what awalkinthepark means is that Story is a bad bet to be productive for a sustained period. That's not unreasonable. Injuries have a cumulative impact on the body, not to mention that he's a MIF on the other side of 30. When 2025 comes, it will have been four years since he put up 4 B-Ref WAR or more.
awalkinthepark threw down the gauntlet by asking for a MIF who played fewer than 100 games three straight years since WW II and came back to be good again. I'm not going to stress Google by punching in thousands of names, at least not tonight, but I see his point writ large. It's got to be pretty rare and not just for MIFs.
(On second thought, does the GHWEL count here? He missed three years due to WW II and did kinda Ok from 1946 on.😎)
2. Unless I'm missing it, I don't think anyone said the RS should have matched the wack-a-doodle contract the Pads gave to X. Straw argument, my friends.
Even in the emotional days after Bogaerts signed with SD, nobody made that argument, as far as I recall. Some of us were frustrated that they had low-balled him with laughable offers when they could have had him on a reasonable deal.
3. Speaking of those low-ball offers, how do we know X was determined to test FA? They never made him an offer that he could have found the least bit enticing. I wish they had. He put up a decent year last year and, depending on Story's injury, will probably put up more value than him this year.
I read X's comments leading up to his departure as indicating he wanted to stay. I got the exact opposite feeling from MB, who kept countering generous offers with increasingly sky-high demands. He came off to me as looking to max out. After X signed with SD, he said he would have accepted a reasonable offer from the RS.
4. D-Dom had his Sale debacle and I'm afraid CB1 is going to be remembered for the $41M in AAV he handed to Story and Yoshida. My hope for both is that they become productive for a year and the RS quickly cash them in by pulling off Sale-like deals. Eat some money, get a youthful return.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 6, 2024 8:35:21 GMT -5
I’ve thankfully never had a shoulder dislocation. I always assumed, based on Hollywood, that while it was extremely painful, you just popped it back in and can go about fighting like nothing happened. Why am I now learning that Lethal Weapon was not accurate? I believe that is what happens, but it doesn't solve the whole problem. Just two weeks ago, my 89-year-old mother-in-law who had osteoperosis fell and suffered major injuries, including a displocated shoulder and broken hip. They operated on the hip the next day and while she was under the anesthesia they popped the shoulder back in place. But she was still going to need surgery on the shoulder eventually. Unfortunately, she passed away a few days after the hip operation.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 4, 2024 20:14:14 GMT -5
Didn't know how many here hd seen the Oakland management folks had passed around memo to emploees at the stadium, prior to game 1 vs sox to avoid many things vs fans. like avoiding anything as Oakland as their home.. Many other comical items. Try to post the twitter feed, not able will post link to it. I'm going to hurry up and order my $89 (half price!) A's denim jacket. I'm sure they're selling fast!
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 3, 2024 10:22:25 GMT -5
It's always good to remember that the expectation was for Rafaela to struggle offensively this year. Casas hit .133 with a .576 OPS in April last year, and he was known for being a polished offensive hitter. Like many have already said, I don't see much of a benefit in him getting at bats in AAA, a league he's already dominated with his high chase rate. The adjustment period will likely take longer than Casas, and maybe even longer than Duran, but he's more than making up for it with spectacular defense. He's always hit and done so at every level. And always the story has been the same. "Well he hit GCL pitching but when he..." And then later, "Sure he hit well at Greenville but when he's going up against much better pitching in Portland..." So it's way too soon to be talking about sending him down to AAA. Makes me wonder if maybe the people who want him sent down live near Worcester because man that Worcester team sounds boring. It's more like an NBA G-League team than a collection of prospects. Well, I don't live near Worcester and haven't been to Polar Park yet. I'd like to make it this year but, yeah, looking at the roster makes me think I might be better off making a weekend trip to Portland.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 2, 2024 21:15:56 GMT -5
At this moment Rafaela is leading the team in RBI has the same number of strikeouts as Casas. Has a higher batting average than; Casas, Story, Devers, Duran, Yoshida, and Valdez. Yet people want to give up on him after five games? The fact is his weaknesses have always been his weaknesses and as he has advanced through the minors at each level people have said, "Yes he hit in the DSL but will his approach work in the; GCL, in low A, in high A, in AA, in AAA and every time it's worked. In fact he's gotten better in most cases. No, no, no! Nobody wants to give up on him. It's because I think he has potential that I want him get the best development opportunity possible. Maybe he'll be the 2024 version of 2027 Dustin Pedroia and turn it all around for a monster year. If that happens, I'll break into a happy dance and proudly post it on Youtube. But in an admittedly SSS since late last season, his k, BB and batted ball data make it clear that there's at least reason to suspect he's not ready.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 2, 2024 20:45:03 GMT -5
He sold out the farm system to win the World Series. Immediate results sacrificing the future. I’m not sure which is better. Short term versus long term. Could go either way. When did he do this? Are you talking about the Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez trade for Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell? Beckett was 25 at the time with his prime ahead of him. Whatever. I thought LL did a lot of good things for the Red Sox. He made it clear that the HWL regime would be fearless in going head to head with the MFY and that's exactly what happened, as the WS scoreboard for this century shows. It always sounded like he could be super demanding and grate on people but that's how competitive people are.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 2, 2024 8:20:34 GMT -5
I understand that everyone is excited about Little Raffy's speed and defense but I remain skeptical about whether his bat is going to play.
It's an extreme SSS, but it builds on what we saw at the end of last year. He's at .267/.235.386 for an OPS of .666. That gives him a 70 wRC+. JBJ's career wRC+ was 81 and he had us all pulling our hair out at times.
Raffy has a .400 BABIP and a xwOBA of .169. That comes after last year's .238. His K% is 41, which is up from last year's 31 percent, and he hasn't drawn a walk yet.
They know more than me and must think it's beneficial for him to be in the The Show to live learn at this point. I preferred that they give him more AAA time and find a cheapo stopgap OF to go with Duran, O'Neill and Abreu. I haven't seen anything that changes my mind about that.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 2, 2024 7:18:46 GMT -5
The A's are such a 1962 Mets level of bad that I can't take much from last night's victory other than more evidence that Duran is electric. We need a nickname for that boy.
I wonder whether Choo Choo Coleman will catch tonight. Who are they throwing against us? Is it Jay Hook's turn? Al Jackson? I'll have to check.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Apr 1, 2024 17:37:46 GMT -5
I saw the numbers...but a 20 grade...that feels almost cartoonishly bad. What does he tell his catcher? "the only thing i can tell you about the location of my next pitch is: it is not going wherever you put your glove" or "don't bother putting your glove down, i wont hit it anyways" Never seen it before. It's Craig Grebeck (Red Sox version) as a hitter, Sam Horn as a defensive 1B, Eric Gagne (Sox version again) as a RP. Oh yeah, I forgot one: Don Zimmer as a manager.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Mar 31, 2024 8:03:21 GMT -5
If they DFA JoleyRod there would be a lot of trade proposals, lefties are scarce. If they traded for a non 40 man player, they could call up Cam Booser, an all situation quality lefty just sitting there waiting. Possibly. But Joley over Bernadino is a weird choice that may have already cost the team a game.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Mar 30, 2024 20:14:01 GMT -5
Wait pitching machine technology isn't good enough to consistently throw a 95mph fastball when you want it to throw a 95mph fastball? Get it together robots and engineers, we need Raffy in our lineup! (Also I have no problem with Winc pitching 2 but the idea we needed him to to load manage the bullpen is weird. Totally fine with trying not to overtax our top 3 in Jansen/Martin/Campbell in that game, but I think Slaten and Weisert also looked good in the spring and they literally haven't pitched.) I wonder if this is the year we finally see that multi-inning relief ace role we've always imagined? Justin Masterson was the last one I remember filling that role. Whitlock in '21, right?
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Post by TearsIn04 on Mar 30, 2024 20:13:10 GMT -5
I shall be watching from the stands on the 3rd base side on Wednesday afternoon. In years gone by, I would already have staked out tickets the day they went on sale but the A's drew only 13k for their lid lifter and 3800 last night. Even if Sox fans were coming off a WS, they wouldn't be able to fill the Mausoleum. They can still fill it... with raw sewage... Wear waterproof boots my man. True story: My brother-in-law, who lived in NJ at the time, attended an A's game during a Bay Area vacation a few years ago and asked a stadium worker whether the A's offered tours of the joint. The worker started laughing and said, "Are you serious? Who would want a tour of this place?"
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Post by TearsIn04 on Mar 30, 2024 20:07:01 GMT -5
Cotillo on Twitter saying likely to rule out extensions soon for Casas, Duran, Houck, Crawford and Winckowski Leaves Rafaela, Grissom, Pivetta as the most obvious options. Though to the point others have made there’s also a good chance Sam Kennedy was really not saying anything at all. My sense is that they'd rather keep Duran low-salaried because it might make him more attractive to some potential trade partners. I can see him in a package for a SP. Houck is coming off a 91 ERA-plus season and has a pretty big flaw in his game, his struggles with LHH, so I can understand their reluctance with him. Winck can be a decent multi-reliever (and yes, I did watch last night's game) but hardly the kind of guy you fall all over yourself to extend. It's way too early for Little Raffy and Grissom. So, it's Casas - who I think is going to be extremely hard to extend - and maybe Crawford as guys who are worth a try for me.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Mar 30, 2024 19:58:11 GMT -5
We should extend pivetta would he take 4/60? I think that boat has sailed. More in the 20M range Agreed. The guy is in his walk year has to feel pretty good about himself at this point. I wish they had gotten something done with him early in the off-season when it may not have taken 4/60. He should take a lesson from Montgomery/Snell/Boras and jump on a good offer early in the '24'25 off-season.
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